1978 Lancia Beta 1600 Coupe

1978 Lancia Beta 1600 Coupe

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Breadvan72

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46,182 posts

129 months

Thursday 18th March
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The panel and centre console are examples of Pininfarina recycling their own work from the 330 GT into the no longer Flavia but now 2000 Coupe in the 1969 redesign. Pininfarina used a similar panel for the Peugeot 504 Coupe, a close rival to the Lancia.

The idea seems to be that the 2000 gives you the looks of a Ferrari or Maserati GT but the relative simplicity and less crazy fuel consumption of a four cylinder engine. These cars are said to be good for 30-40 MPG on long runs, although I am not sure how much I believe that.



Now I must cheer up the Beta by driving it while my mechanic checks out the new old heap.


Dunk130TC

320 posts

156 months

Thursday 18th March
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It looks stunning, have you been brave enough for a pootle?
Love the fact that you're selling a non rusty rust coloured Lancia and have bought a rusty non rust coloured Lancia, genius biggrin

Breadvan72

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46,182 posts

129 months

Thursday 18th March
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Dunk130TC said:
It looks stunning, have you been brave enough for a pootle?
Love the fact that you're selling a non rusty rust coloured Lancia and have bought a rusty non rust coloured Lancia, genius biggrin
This is indeed a fine part of the scheme. The Beta may be around a while longer as it is my main car at the moment (I make any excuse possible not to drive my fast, safe, reliable, relatively energy efficient, comfortable and very well equipped modern car -it's great, but, mehhhhhh). The non-Flavia Flavia will take a bit of bringing up to spec, mainly because of crustulations on one side. The nearside is mostly fine, the offside is flaky, although only mega flaky in one place. The roof and bonnet and doors and what not are looking pretty OK although not flawless.

Also I am on my third attempt to get the DVLA form right and get the Beta back onto its UK T plates (this will probably help it to sell, and there is a slight chance that I may be able to sell the old IOM plate to a Manx resident).

Pootle? I did, but gingerish because of squishy brakes (same as on the pre purchase solo test drive last week). Seems promising.

CallThatMusic

1,627 posts

54 months

Thursday 18th March
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It’s very nice, ideal for summer runs to the pub.

Breadvan72

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46,182 posts

129 months

Thursday 18th March
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Cheers. How is the Montecarlo?



CallThatMusic

1,627 posts

54 months

Thursday 18th March
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Breadvan72 said:
Cheers. How is the Montecarlo?
It’s in good shape, new hi-torque starter motor fitted last week.
Not sure about this but I’ve plunged and booked to fit 4 new tyres on the original wheels next week....originals back on the car after 39 years.
I am apprehensive.
Thanks for asking !

Breadvan72

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46,182 posts

129 months

Tuesday 23rd March
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I highly recommend the Amethyst digital ignition voodoo. The Beta is flying. That 1970 Porsche 911 going up that hill yesterday might have wondered what the bronze coloured blur whizzing past might be. The only 1970s car with a 1.6 engine that I have driven which was quicker was a Lotus Elan Plus Two with a big valve Lotus/Ford 1.6 twin cam and two fat Dellortos.

I will probably still have to sell the car to free up space and money for my latest Lancia purchase, but I will have fun with the Beta first.

CallThatMusic

1,627 posts

54 months

Tuesday 23rd March
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Breadvan72 said:
I highly recommend the Amethyst digital ignition voodoo. The Beta is flying. That 1970 Porsche 911 going up that hill yesterday might have wondered what the bronze coloured blur whizzing past might be. The only 1970s car with a 1.6 engine that I have driven which was quicker was a Lotus Elan Plus Two with a big valve Lotus/Ford 1.6 twin cam and two fat Dellortos.

I will probably still have to sell the car to free up space and money for my latest Lancia purchase, but I will have fun with the Beta first.
Possibly peak Beta.
Beta Max.

Breadvan72

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46,182 posts

129 months

Tuesday 23rd March
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The examiners award that gag a good solid Beta.

Jayne Redland

15 posts

1 month

Sunday 16th May
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Hello, I think I'd quite like a Lancia Beta and there are a few on sale on websites, but will there being no power steering be an issue for a not very big person who has only driven modern cars with power steering?

carinaman

16,817 posts

138 months

Sunday 16th May
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Wikipedia says the Beta was available with PAS from 1978. I've been fortunate enough to drive a 2.0 litre HPE, possibly the best car I've driven, but I cannot remember if it had PAS or not.

Jayne Redland

15 posts

1 month

Sunday 16th May
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Oh thanks, I didn't know that. Maybe I better look for one of the later ones, though I think the older ones look best.

carinaman

16,817 posts

138 months

Sunday 16th May
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Jayne Redland said:
Oh thanks, I didn't know that. Maybe I better look for one of the later ones, though I think the older ones look best.
I suppose one solution is even if you buy a non-PAS one and you can't put up with the lack of PAS that you could consider retro-fitting PAS to an earlier non-PAS car?

CharlesdeGaulle

16,682 posts

146 months

Sunday 16th May
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Jayne Redland said:
Hello, I think I'd quite like a Lancia Beta and there are a few on sale on websites, but will there being no power steering be an issue for a not very big person who has only driven modern cars with power steering?
I doubt it would be much of an issue to be honest. These are light and nimble cars.

That said, my 124 Spider does feel a little heavy at lower speeds, but once it's moving you'd never notice or be be concerned that there wasn't PAS. Can't speak for Lancias and I think the OP has disappeared for a bit.

andrewcliffe

703 posts

190 months

Monday 17th May
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Retrofitting power steering would be a little harder as the bulkhead fittings are different as well as the rack.

Unless you have wide wheels shouldn't be a problem, they don't have hugely wide wheels.

carinaman

16,817 posts

138 months

Monday 17th May
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andrewcliffe said:
Retrofitting power steering would be a little harder as the bulkhead fittings are different as well as the rack.

Unless you have wide wheels shouldn't be a problem, they don't have hugely wide wheels.
Thank you for correcting my unhelpful suggestion.

XOcette

112 posts

86 months

Tuesday 18th May
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Jayne Redland said:
Hello, I think I'd quite like a Lancia Beta and there are a few on sale on websites, but will there being no power steering be an issue for a not very big person who has only driven modern cars with power steering?
I recall my wife found the steering on my unassisted 2.0 HPE a little heavy when parking, but other than that it wasn't too heavy. Going for a later model with PAS is the safe bet, but it's worth trying a few cars to see for yourself. Tyre brands, widths and pressures can all have a big effect on whether you would find the steering too heavy.

They're lovely cars to drive with a really nice ride/handling compromise.

Jayne Redland

15 posts

1 month

Tuesday 18th May
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It is the parking that I'm mainly thinking about, thanks.

daimlerv8

2,885 posts

46 months

Tuesday 18th May
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As long as you keep the wheels turning, the steering will not be un-manageable at parking speeds.

There is a tendency among those who drive modern cars to twirl the steery wheel whilst stationary, just because they can, those of us who grew up in the age of non-power steering know that this places a huge strain on the entire steering system and causes 'flat spots' to be worn into the front tyres.

I ran E30 BMW's for years, all with power steering. One day I noted that the power steering pump was dribbling fluid, so I took the belt off, no difference in wieght whilst moving, but a little more effort was needed when manouvering.

andrewcliffe

703 posts

190 months

Thursday 20th May
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Electric power steering could be fitted as a retro conversion, am doing this on a Fulvia HF