Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 Twin Spark - Unseen-ish

Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 Twin Spark - Unseen-ish

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stewjohnst

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2,442 posts

162 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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rxe said:
I find that having several cars in the same colour tends to confuse the womenfolk. I got away with my GTA Sportwagon for a week before she realised. I was forgiven when she drove it....
She has confessed to thinking she'd like to drive the alfa as 'it's curvy' she didn't much care for the old 9-3 so that has got me some brownie points.

She does accept there's no point me having good cars when this sort of thing happens though...my daughter decided to 'draw daddy' on the side of the company car biggrin


MrC986

3,497 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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I almost did the same wiwhen I owned a GTV V6 a few years ago....parts were getting more scarce & I spotted an identical coloured 2.0 Twin Cam at a garage for £600 near me with 9 months MOT. Common sense got the better in that instance though there are sadly plenty of older Alfas being sacrificed for parts & I don't think the last Govt scrappage scheme helped either.

jumare

420 posts

150 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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stewjohnst said:
Nothing beats being woken up on a Saturday morning by the dog going apest at the postman...

...not that I mind as he's delivered this to me today in exchange for about £15 via Amazon.



The missus is out on the tiles tonight so there's every chance of me getting intimate with the Alfa tonight.

To be continued biggrin
Have you got a link for this, and do you know if it would work on a '07 159 (yes the cup holder is in a silly place)?

Thanks.

stewjohnst

Original Poster:

2,442 posts

162 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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jumare said:
Have you got a link for this, and do you know if it would work on a '07 159 (yes the cup holder is in a silly place)?

Thanks.
Pm sent biggrin

Vitorio

4,296 posts

144 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Excellent work Stew, nothing better to fix one misbehaving alfa then getting a second one!

Since you are probably getting stuck in waaay over your head, how about getting a rusted out 156 v6 and swapping a busso into one of the 147s? hehe

stewjohnst

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2,442 posts

162 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Don't get me started...I've just been hunting around the garage trying to find my spring compressors...one was being used to hang gardening tools from the garage roof and I can't find the other frown

I get the feeling I'll be paying some local garage down south to swap the shock, although getting some quotes for having it shipped up here as a plan b as it will cost me £60 for a shock plus the same again to fit so getting it trailered up here may be easier.

Totally not in over my head yet, honest biggrin

davebem

746 posts

178 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Vitorio said:
Excellent work Stew, nothing better to fix one misbehaving alfa then getting a second one!

Since you are probably getting stuck in waaay over your head, how about getting a rusted out 156 v6 and swapping a busso into one of the 147s? hehe
Having just converted a V6, and having to spend about 3 weeks replacing the whole engine bay loom, dash loom, main body loom, abs loom, and 4 door looms to get everything to work...I would still recommend it thumbup

darkyoung1000

2,031 posts

197 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Excellent thread OP, thoroughly enjoyed reading about the Alfa.
A handsome car and they are so very cheap now, it's almost a crime not to have at least one!
I'll be interested to see what happens when you come to (try) and sell them...

rxe

6,700 posts

104 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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stewjohnst said:
Don't get me started...I've just been hunting around the garage trying to find my spring compressors...one was being used to hang gardening tools from the garage roof and I can't find the other frown

I get the feeling I'll be paying some local garage down south to swap the shock, although getting some quotes for having it shipped up here as a plan b as it will cost me £60 for a shock plus the same again to fit so getting it trailered up here may be easier.

Totally not in over my head yet, honest biggrin
You can pretty much do the rear shocks without compressors - when out of the car, there is hardly any tension at all when you loosen the nut.

The only hard bit about the job is the big bolt at the bottom of the hub. Ideally you need gallons of plus gas, an oxy torch, big hammers ... and a new bolt.

stewjohnst

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2,442 posts

162 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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There's a delay in getting the 'new' car as I've a wedding next week but this morning reminded me twice of the need to get things sorted.

In a most un-ph lack of road craft, I found myself in the middle lane and boxed in by elephant racing trucks when I wanted to go left off the motorway.

Naturally I dropped two cogs to pull out and around them both and back across three lanes in a manner normally reserved for Audi drivers...

However, I can only imagine the truck driver on my left was reminded of a scene from Top Gun ("Hit the brakes and they'll fly right by") as I almost nutted the steering wheel with my rapid deceleration thanks to the 4.5k rev limiter not being at all happy with my choice of gear.

I am also finding the occasional country lane overtake on my commute slightly odd - Having a nice revvy 2.0 but not the nice revvy half of the rev range makes every overtake feel like a weirdly slow motion but serene waft past people - a bit like pulling out in Tdi but without the boost ever arriving...

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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stewjohnst said:
There's a delay in getting the 'new' car as I've a wedding next week but this morning reminded me twice of the need to get things sorted.

In a most un-ph lack of road craft, I found myself in the middle lane and boxed in by elephant racing trucks when I wanted to go left off the motorway.

Naturally I dropped two cogs to pull out and around them both and back across three lanes in a manner normally reserved for Audi drivers...

However, I can only imagine the truck driver on my left was reminded of a scene from Top Gun ("Hit the brakes and they'll fly right by") as I almost nutted the steering wheel with my rapid deceleration thanks to the 4.5k rev limiter not being at all happy with my choice of gear.

I am also finding the occasional country lane overtake on my commute slightly odd - Having a nice revvy 2.0 but not the nice revvy half of the rev range makes every overtake feel like a weirdly slow motion but serene waft past people - a bit like pulling out in Tdi but without the boost ever arriving...
rofl
When you finally regain the lost third of your revs it will be like a new car!
In fact... it may well be a new car by the time you've done.
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stewjohnst

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2,442 posts

162 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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That's the one!
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lindrup119

1,228 posts

144 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Bookmarked! Excellent thread and great write up.

I'm invested in the story now and intrigued to find out the culprit in the 4.5k mystery!

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Interesting snippet here:
http://www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/air_flow_meter.shtml

"The easiest way to check if the Air flow meter is faulty is to get your local friendly Alfa Romeo garage to try one for you as they take very little time to fit, in most cases it is quicker than putting the car on the examiner and it is always nice to see the look on a customers face as they rocket off into the distance. Beware however as Lambda (or Oxygen) sensors in the exhaust can also give very similar symptoms to Air Flow Meters."

stewjohnst

Original Poster:

2,442 posts

162 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Rick

Thanks

When I get the other one up here I'll be swapping the lambda sensor over first.

I tried unplugging them and then and it threw me the appropriate codes but when plugged in, they weren't showing anything.

That doesn't mean they're working though scratchchin

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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My second 145 never ran as well as my first. Eventually I took it to an excellent independent specialist who found the lambda was duff and replaced it. He reckoned it might have been duff from day one. Certainly it ran better than I can remember!

Vitorio

4,296 posts

144 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Conversely, my 1.6 has been throwing an EML with a lambda code for over a year, doesnt drive any less for it, and replacing said lambda didnt change anything...

Ive learned to just ignore the light on the dash, its done over 10K with the light on, revs without hesitation and MPGs havent changed, soooo...

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Vitorio said:
Conversely, my 1.6 has been throwing an EML with a lambda code for over a year, doesnt drive any less for it, and replacing said lambda didnt change anything...

Ive learned to just ignore the light on the dash, its done over 10K with the light on, revs without hesitation and MPGs havent changed, soooo...
Maybe it's got an ECU in it from a two lambda car?
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Vitorio

4,296 posts

144 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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RicksAlfas said:
Maybe it's got an ECU in it from a two lambda car?
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Not a bad guess biggrin

Either way, i got my ODBII tool in today, reset the EML light, and the readouts from the lambda sensors look good, so maaaaaybe all it needed was a reset?

My cheap reader doesnt seem to connect to the airbag ECU though, so no luck resetting that yet.