1991 Ferrari Mondial T Cabriolet
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Congratulations, that's a beautiful car. Don't know if it's the one recently for sale at The Ferrari Centre, but if it is, it looked the best proposition I've seen in ages.
I would love a Mondial Cab, in silver. It's agonizing in that when they were a £20k car I just didn't quite have the spare cash. Now they are a £40-50k car, I just don't quite have the spare cash...
I would love a Mondial Cab, in silver. It's agonizing in that when they were a £20k car I just didn't quite have the spare cash. Now they are a £40-50k car, I just don't quite have the spare cash...
JuniorD said:
Congratulations, that's a beautiful car. Don't know if it's the one recently for sale at The Ferrari Centre, but if it is, it looked the best proposition I've seen in ages.
I would love a Mondial Cab, in silver. It's agonizing in that when they were a £20k car I just didn't quite have the spare cash. Now they are a £40-50k car, I just don't quite have the spare cash...
Yes it was the TFC car. They had had it for sale all summer at a rather higher price, without garnering any interest. It was one of the cars I had on my short list to consider viewing, so when they dropped the price I got down there sharpish for a test drive.I would love a Mondial Cab, in silver. It's agonizing in that when they were a £20k car I just didn't quite have the spare cash. Now they are a £40-50k car, I just don't quite have the spare cash...
The moment I saw it, I just knew it was the One. I was genuinely surprised how excellent the condition was and everything seems to work, but what sealed the deal for me was a thick ring-binder full of service history documentation and a fully stamped-up service book since Day 1, all in the correct Ferrari wallet. It's also got all the original tools and leather Ferrari tool box, as well as an excellent undamaged soft top and tonneau cover.
So after a roof-down test drive, I agreed to pay their reduced £40K asking price, on condition that they carried out a full cam-belt service, proper pre-sale check-over and issued a new MOT. It now has 20 documented services inc. 7 cam belt changes for its 43,500 miles. I think it's just one of those cars that has always been looked after, used relatively sparingly and serviced/fettled without question whenever required.
I thoroughly enjoyed the 120 mile top-down drive home in the early November sunshine! I've since had one quick drive with the roof up, but that's no way to experience these cars, so it will only be used on dry days, as long as there's no salt on the roads. I'll be putting the roof down and taking the family out in it this weekend.
LotusOmega375D said:
JuniorD said:
Congratulations, that's a beautiful car. Don't know if it's the one recently for sale at The Ferrari Centre, but if it is, it looked the best proposition I've seen in ages.
I would love a Mondial Cab, in silver. It's agonizing in that when they were a £20k car I just didn't quite have the spare cash. Now they are a £40-50k car, I just don't quite have the spare cash...
Yes it was the TFC car. They had had it for sale all summer at a rather higher price, without garnering any interest. It was one of the cars I had on my short list to consider viewing, so when they dropped the price I got down there sharpish for a test drive.I would love a Mondial Cab, in silver. It's agonizing in that when they were a £20k car I just didn't quite have the spare cash. Now they are a £40-50k car, I just don't quite have the spare cash...
The moment I saw it, I just knew it was the One. I was genuinely surprised how excellent the condition was and everything seems to work, but what sealed the deal for me was a thick ring-binder full of service history documentation and a fully stamped-up service book since Day 1, all in the correct Ferrari wallet. It's also got all the original tools and leather Ferrari tool box, as well as an excellent undamaged soft top and tonneau cover.
So after a roof-down test drive, I agreed to pay their reduced £40K asking price, on condition that they carried out a full cam-belt service, proper pre-sale check-over and issued a new MOT. It now has 20 documented services inc. 7 cam belt changes for its 43,500 miles. I think it's just one of those cars that has always been looked after, used relatively sparingly and serviced/fettled without question whenever required.
I thoroughly enjoyed the 120 mile top-down drive home in the early November sunshine! I've since had one quick drive with the roof up, but that's no way to experience these cars, so it will only be used on dry days, as long as there's no salt on the roads. I'll be putting the roof down and taking the family out in it this weekend.
LotusOmega375D said:
Yes it was the TFC car. They had had it for sale all summer at a rather higher price, without garnering any interest. It was one of the cars I had on my short list to consider viewing, so when they dropped the price I got down there sharpish for a test drive.
The moment I saw it, I just knew it was the One. I was genuinely surprised how excellent the condition was and everything seems to work, but what sealed the deal for me was a thick ring-binder full of service history documentation and a fully stamped-up service book since Day 1, all in the correct Ferrari wallet. It's also got all the original tools and leather Ferrari tool box, as well as an excellent undamaged soft top and tonneau cover.
So after a roof-down test drive, I agreed to pay their reduced £40K asking price, on condition that they carried out a full cam-belt service, proper pre-sale check-over and issued a new MOT. It now has 20 documented services inc. 7 cam belt changes for its 43,500 miles. I think it's just one of those cars that has always been looked after, used relatively sparingly and serviced/fettled without question whenever required.
I thoroughly enjoyed the 120 mile top-down drive home in the early November sunshine! I've since had one quick drive with the roof up, but that's no way to experience these cars, so it will only be used on dry days, as long as there's no salt on the roads. I'll be putting the roof down and taking the family out in it this weekend.
That's a gorgeous car, congratulations. A cambelt change every 6000 miles is impressively frequent - is that normal for a Ferrari?The moment I saw it, I just knew it was the One. I was genuinely surprised how excellent the condition was and everything seems to work, but what sealed the deal for me was a thick ring-binder full of service history documentation and a fully stamped-up service book since Day 1, all in the correct Ferrari wallet. It's also got all the original tools and leather Ferrari tool box, as well as an excellent undamaged soft top and tonneau cover.
So after a roof-down test drive, I agreed to pay their reduced £40K asking price, on condition that they carried out a full cam-belt service, proper pre-sale check-over and issued a new MOT. It now has 20 documented services inc. 7 cam belt changes for its 43,500 miles. I think it's just one of those cars that has always been looked after, used relatively sparingly and serviced/fettled without question whenever required.
I thoroughly enjoyed the 120 mile top-down drive home in the early November sunshine! I've since had one quick drive with the roof up, but that's no way to experience these cars, so it will only be used on dry days, as long as there's no salt on the roads. I'll be putting the roof down and taking the family out in it this weekend.
Funny how things change with time. 10 years ago I saw a silver coupe parked up at the side of the road and promptly decided it was the worst looking Ferrari ever produced and the £20k they were going for at the time was a joke.
I now think yours looks great and the days of £20k Mondials are long gone.
I now think yours looks great and the days of £20k Mondials are long gone.
Thanks JD. I've done about 600 miles in it since I bought it: consisting of local trips and family days-out when the weather's been fine. Of course, it's been a long hard UK winter, so opportunities have been limited. Being what I would term a mid-mileage Ferrari (now 44k), i don't have to worry about mileage reducing the value. Furthemore, the condition, though excellent, is not concours so I have no problem using it regularly.
For safety's sake, I had a new set of Goodyears fitted early on (total 416 quid), which should last for at least the duration of my ownership. I have also replaced one of the hood cover press studs for a couple of quid. Other than that, there has been no maintenance expenditure so far (touch wood). Being a bit OCD, I am going to treat it to a mechanical polish in a month or two to get rid of light swirl marks, which you can really only make out under artificial light. The detailer has been over each panel with his paint-test gizmo and reckons that the rosso paintwork seems to be all original 1991, bar for one small area on the driver's door.
Driving it is fun. It's not especially fast, which is OK because you don't want to travel at warp speed with the top down. I also own a much quicker car for the speed fix. I try not to use it with the top up: you could be sitting in an MGB! Having said that I always put the roof back up when it goes back in the garage to prevent any creases forming.
Like most manual Ferraris, it takes a while for the gearbox to loosen up but that's all part of the experience. The brakes are fine. Everything works including the air-con, 4 electric windows and electric aerial. All 4 of us can travel in it in relative comfort, so it's a popular choice for the family.
In summary, if you want a Ferrari road-rocket then don't get one of these. If you want something stylish, analogue and relatively practical together with the joys of open top motoring, then I highly recommend them.
For safety's sake, I had a new set of Goodyears fitted early on (total 416 quid), which should last for at least the duration of my ownership. I have also replaced one of the hood cover press studs for a couple of quid. Other than that, there has been no maintenance expenditure so far (touch wood). Being a bit OCD, I am going to treat it to a mechanical polish in a month or two to get rid of light swirl marks, which you can really only make out under artificial light. The detailer has been over each panel with his paint-test gizmo and reckons that the rosso paintwork seems to be all original 1991, bar for one small area on the driver's door.
Driving it is fun. It's not especially fast, which is OK because you don't want to travel at warp speed with the top down. I also own a much quicker car for the speed fix. I try not to use it with the top up: you could be sitting in an MGB! Having said that I always put the roof back up when it goes back in the garage to prevent any creases forming.
Like most manual Ferraris, it takes a while for the gearbox to loosen up but that's all part of the experience. The brakes are fine. Everything works including the air-con, 4 electric windows and electric aerial. All 4 of us can travel in it in relative comfort, so it's a popular choice for the family.
In summary, if you want a Ferrari road-rocket then don't get one of these. If you want something stylish, analogue and relatively practical together with the joys of open top motoring, then I highly recommend them.
As many have said these get better with age, didn't like them first time around, now the want is real!
I remember the first one I saw was in central London early 80s, black example crawling along in traffic. Lycra clad cyclist came up alongside, wobbled a bit then fell sideways with a loud "clang" as the handlebar hit the Ferrari's door. A massive toot of the Fiamm airhorns from the driver and both parties just went on their way! It was an eye opener for a lad from a northern town, it would have been an "inciedent" back home but just another day in the big city.
I remember the first one I saw was in central London early 80s, black example crawling along in traffic. Lycra clad cyclist came up alongside, wobbled a bit then fell sideways with a loud "clang" as the handlebar hit the Ferrari's door. A massive toot of the Fiamm airhorns from the driver and both parties just went on their way! It was an eye opener for a lad from a northern town, it would have been an "inciedent" back home but just another day in the big city.
LotusOmega375D said:
At the moment the asking prices for Mondial T cabriolets in the UK range from GBP 48K to 70K. For the earlier 3.2 cabriolet the range is GBP 36K to GBP 60K.
A few years back good ones were stuck at 25K or so. I wanted one back then, but didn't have the money. Of course they then went up in value like other Ferraris.
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My friend got one of these back in early 2012. I think he paid around 15k? There was a very small rust bubble on some areas and a few niggles to sort. We had massive fun with this, driving around Farringdon and west-end in 2012 summer nights during olympics. Enjoy, really nice car!A few years back good ones were stuck at 25K or so. I wanted one back then, but didn't have the money. Of course they then went up in value like other Ferraris.
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