I've bought a Peugeot 207!
Discussion
Bungleaio said:
That looks great fun!
I vote for keeping the black back box
It's got to go unfortunately as I need to get it quiter.I vote for keeping the black back box
I'm thinking of using two of the same silencers mounted horizontally in the rear with an exit into each diffuser tunnel to provide some blow. That will double the silencer size and reduce the noise due to the exit under the car.
Awesome pic by Sprite Photography of it on circuit last weekend.
Would have liked to have ran a few more laps but it was just too loud so that's something I really need to get sorted as a priority - blown diffuser anyone?
Also need some fresher slicks and wets because I have nothing newer than 2012 in the right sizes
Would have liked to have ran a few more laps but it was just too loud so that's something I really need to get sorted as a priority - blown diffuser anyone?
Also need some fresher slicks and wets because I have nothing newer than 2012 in the right sizes
travel is dangerous said:
have you thought about transplanting that v10 I saw in the background of one of the photos?
That would rather negate the "cheap track toy" part of the plan though...... not to mention we have much better chassis available to put that in that could do it much more justice I'm working on gaining access to the SRA ECU so we can look at some power options. I think 300bhp should be easy with only a change of pistons, rods and turbos which would make it over 400bhp/tonne.
poppopbangbang said:
Krikkit said:
Looks good now it's clean, I love the juxtaposition of the gopping 207 face on something that's obviously got a proper turn of speed.
Krikkit said:
Does make it a touch easier then.
Looks good now it's clean, I love the juxtaposition of the gopping 207 face on something that's obviously got a proper turn of speed.
Me too - I think that's probably my favourite part about it! I did claim at Bedford the other weekend that it was a 207 HDI with a body kit but I don't think the chap believed me Looks good now it's clean, I love the juxtaposition of the gopping 207 face on something that's obviously got a proper turn of speed.
Few bits done today in the run up to Xmas break.
Firstly as we all know shiny things add power so I've added some shiny pipes to the engine bay:
There is actually a reason for this beyond bling, the standard delivery pipes are sourced from the road car and are thermoplastic. The Spider doesn't run a blow off valve of any description (it's blanked off the compressor housing) to minimise boost drop between gears as such the pre throttle side of the inlet system can see some big spikes in pressure beyond that it usually runs at and a few cars in the past have had cracked IC to Throttle body pipes. These formed aluminium ones are stronger than the plastic ones and are one less thing to worry about.
I've also designed the exhaust system, CTE will make this in the new year:
It's a single transverse silencer box which mounts to the rear of the space frame via large rubber compliance mounrts with a single entry positioned to link to the original exhaust section (although we'll be removing the flexi from this as it's carry over from the road car and functionless on the race car aside from burning the floor), the silencer splits into two internally and exits from each end of the silencer box through the floor as far forward into the diffuser tunnels as possible. Partly this reduces noise but more importantly it adds some blow to the diffuser when on throttle, you can see from Sennas upside down 91 Mclaren:
How the early blown diffusers worked simply by relying on introducing high velocity exhaust into the diffuser. Whilst my solution isn't quite as nice as I can't optimise the entry angle due to rear suspension packaging it will be interesting to see what effect it has if any. Probably not worth investegating cold/hot blow strategies right now
The new shift servo brackets are at the anodisers so I should have those back to fit after Xmas. I'm also going to beef up a few bits of bodywork (front leading edge, engine cover buttress joints etc.) with some carbon, I think the weight penalty is worth it for the improved durability as I have no spare bodywork. Once that's done I might have a look at if I can talk to the ECU and if there is any boost left that's not being used.......
Really enjoying this little Pug, it's a great bit of kit and a VERY fun thing to throw about. Definitely one of my best automotive buys ever
Firstly as we all know shiny things add power so I've added some shiny pipes to the engine bay:
There is actually a reason for this beyond bling, the standard delivery pipes are sourced from the road car and are thermoplastic. The Spider doesn't run a blow off valve of any description (it's blanked off the compressor housing) to minimise boost drop between gears as such the pre throttle side of the inlet system can see some big spikes in pressure beyond that it usually runs at and a few cars in the past have had cracked IC to Throttle body pipes. These formed aluminium ones are stronger than the plastic ones and are one less thing to worry about.
I've also designed the exhaust system, CTE will make this in the new year:
It's a single transverse silencer box which mounts to the rear of the space frame via large rubber compliance mounrts with a single entry positioned to link to the original exhaust section (although we'll be removing the flexi from this as it's carry over from the road car and functionless on the race car aside from burning the floor), the silencer splits into two internally and exits from each end of the silencer box through the floor as far forward into the diffuser tunnels as possible. Partly this reduces noise but more importantly it adds some blow to the diffuser when on throttle, you can see from Sennas upside down 91 Mclaren:
How the early blown diffusers worked simply by relying on introducing high velocity exhaust into the diffuser. Whilst my solution isn't quite as nice as I can't optimise the entry angle due to rear suspension packaging it will be interesting to see what effect it has if any. Probably not worth investegating cold/hot blow strategies right now
The new shift servo brackets are at the anodisers so I should have those back to fit after Xmas. I'm also going to beef up a few bits of bodywork (front leading edge, engine cover buttress joints etc.) with some carbon, I think the weight penalty is worth it for the improved durability as I have no spare bodywork. Once that's done I might have a look at if I can talk to the ECU and if there is any boost left that's not being used.......
Really enjoying this little Pug, it's a great bit of kit and a VERY fun thing to throw about. Definitely one of my best automotive buys ever
As there was a fair few stress cracks in the bodywork it seemed a good idea to pull the body off as this allowed much more access to fix them and opportunity to clean and inspect the frame etc. All the bodywork has now been repaired and beefed up, the floor has had some ally skid plates made for the areas behind the front wheels and the frames had a massive clean up and freshen along with the various looms etc. that run along it. Well worth doing but a bit of a task. It also gave chance to clean and repaint the seat shell and polish the floors along with stripping, cleaning and rebuilding the pedal box.
Intercoolers also had a spruce whilst they were easy to get off:
As well as this I've come up with a a plan for brakes - there was a bit of head scratching here as the brakes have to work from the first pedal input for sprinting so as a first option I've gone to a road car pad (same friction material I use in the Porsche) and we'll see what this is like. As cool as fitting some carbons off the F1s would have been this wasn't really a go'er for sprint use
I'll test these towards the end of Feb when the car has the final shakedown before the start of the season and fingers crossed they'll do the trick. It's a fairly big pad and a fairly light car so I'm hoping this is a good solution, especially as it is super cheap!
Things left to do now are rebuild the dash display, dyno the dampers and service as required, make a skid plate for the nose and change the front bodywork fastening system, drop the car over to CTE for the exhaust fabrication and fit the preheater take offs as I want to be able to heat the car before start up as this will avoid the risk of being over cool on the start line. I've also got some new wheels on the way from Rimstock to alloy me to run a 265 profile rear tyre as it has to run a road legal tyre in sprints!
Hopefully the balance is still good with the wider rear!
Intercoolers also had a spruce whilst they were easy to get off:
As well as this I've come up with a a plan for brakes - there was a bit of head scratching here as the brakes have to work from the first pedal input for sprinting so as a first option I've gone to a road car pad (same friction material I use in the Porsche) and we'll see what this is like. As cool as fitting some carbons off the F1s would have been this wasn't really a go'er for sprint use
I'll test these towards the end of Feb when the car has the final shakedown before the start of the season and fingers crossed they'll do the trick. It's a fairly big pad and a fairly light car so I'm hoping this is a good solution, especially as it is super cheap!
Things left to do now are rebuild the dash display, dyno the dampers and service as required, make a skid plate for the nose and change the front bodywork fastening system, drop the car over to CTE for the exhaust fabrication and fit the preheater take offs as I want to be able to heat the car before start up as this will avoid the risk of being over cool on the start line. I've also got some new wheels on the way from Rimstock to alloy me to run a 265 profile rear tyre as it has to run a road legal tyre in sprints!
Hopefully the balance is still good with the wider rear!
JS1500 said:
You really are fond of this beastie, aren't you?!
Looking forward to seeing how you get on with it in competition.
Yep! I worked with them when I was much younger and much further down the motorsport career ladder so to have one of my own to play with now feels pretty awesome to be honest! Looking forward to seeing how you get on with it in competition.
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