Lupo GTI

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mcg_

1,445 posts

93 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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claytonjones said:
PorkRind said:
Love the pics.
How much more can you get from that engine, n/a? Is there a s/c kit for it or maybe get the 1.4 sc/turbo lump (ensuring its healthy before hand)
With the right mods you can see around 160-170bhp if it’s a healthy engine.

Several people have tried charging these engines but no one has been sucessful yet!
I think the closest person I knew of back in the day when I had my red sport was this bloke - http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?/profile/44...

His definitely ran for a bit. There was a vw show we camped at and I remember him saying him and a Maserati had a bit of fun from the M6 toll booths and he did alright.

very knowledgeable bloke from what I remember, think an aircraft engineer.

You cars looking great, literally what I'd want to do to a gti if I got one!. If you ever do sell, and if it's in more than 6-12 months time, I'd be interested. (currently trying to find a house with a drive and double garage!)

my sport from probably 8 years ago! still miss it


claytonjones

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235 posts

151 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Yeah his is the only one that i know of to run for a while, I love N/A so i'll be sticking with it.

I highly doubt I will be selling anytime soon but i'll keep you in mind if something changes, appreciate the nice comments smile

claytonjones

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235 posts

151 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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So I took the car to a Local place called Hybrid Tune today to have it Dyno'd. Purely to see where i'm at before I fit all the parts.

It made a healthy 140bhp and 121lb/ft. Really pleased with these numbers considering it is still on the standard map!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B0HawE9dRs

claytonjones

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235 posts

151 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Yesterday, me and a good friend of mine spent the day fitting the new parts to the Lupo. Port match and gas flowed head, polished inlet manifold and a set of Piper cams. Also had the cam cover and inlet powder coated black, looks much better IMO. I didn’t get as much pictures as i’d of liked but we just wanted to crack on.

Took it for a run to London last night to give the cams some time to bed in. Car drives perfectly! Mapping is on the 21st November with Wayne at ChipWizards.






Paul S4

1,184 posts

211 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Amazing car and great write up, along with stunning photos. Your car now looks 'right' !

Subtle yet purposeful is probably my best description.

Having done a few track days ( albeit with an E36 BMW 318iS at Croft ) when I had the money to do so (!) I am quite envious of your trip to The Ring !

Your car looks like new: cannot guess how many miles you have on it.

Keep up the good work !

mwstewart

7,622 posts

189 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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claytonjones said:
Yesterday, me and a good friend of mine spent the day fitting the new parts to the Lupo. Port match and gas flowed head, polished inlet manifold and a set of Piper cams. Also had the cam cover and inlet powder coated black, looks much better IMO. I didn’t get as much pictures as i’d of liked but we just wanted to crack on.

Took it for a run to London last night to give the cams some time to bed in. Car drives perfectly! Mapping is on the 21st November with Wayne at ChipWizards.
Excellent. I'm sure Wayne will do a great job.

paultownsend

2,291 posts

184 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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This is excellent. I would definitely stay N/A with this.

I had a mk2 Golf GTI. Put a ABF 2.0 16v with ECU and full loom and it suited the car so well. It was plug and play. I had Newman cams, all the intake system and head ported/matched and then mapped to suit which increased power from 155hp to 175hp on a dyno dynamics roller.

I’m not sure if this is an option with the Lupo?
However the best mod I ever did was gearbox related. Lightweight flywheel and all plastic bushes replaced on the linkage, and solid engine mounts.

claytonjones

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235 posts

151 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Update time: 21st November, mapping day. We made the 4 and a half hour journey to Manchester the night before ready for the morning. Drove over there for 9.00am, chatted to Wayne for an hour before putting the car on the dyno. Wayne done some pre-checks and his diagnostic tool flagged up a fault code i hadn’t seen before, “Camshaft position actuator malfunction” - great! Wayne pulled the VVT solenoid out and put some power through, turns out it was working so the problem is else where. Without this working its pointless to attempt mapping, so i made my way home and said i’ll figure it out and come back. So I get home, I had a spare VVT solenoid I thought i’d try, plugged it and took for a drive, an instant different in mid range power! I took it back out to compare them, turns out the holes for the oil were different so they wasn’t matching up to the holes on the head. Who ever sold me the head over a year ago now, we can only assume it was off a different 16v engine that uses a different solenoid, luckily the spare one I had was the one I got sent with the head. So after all that it was a simple fix that cost me nothing, other than a load of fuel wasted.

I got back in contact with Wayne straight away to let him know the good news, he said he was free Friday. Confirmed it with him and made the early journey back up early Friday.

We got it back on the Dyno, checked everything over and all was good! Wayne set to work, it’s a difficult ECU to map so it took all day, but the results are good! It made 159bhp, around 34bhp over a standard car! The biggest gains were through the midrange, around 3-4k before the map it was making about 80bhp, after the map it now makes 110 at 3-4. The rev limiter has also been raised from 6700 to 7300, thats where all the power is!

Safe to say I am over the moon, I highly recommend anyone to visit Wayne if you are looking to get a map done, the blokes been mapping cars longer than i’ve been alive! He goes above and beyond!

Just been out for a spirited drive, the car is an absolute weapon now. The extra revs allows me to to save upshifting on certain straight i previously had to! Overall, extremely happy!






Edited by claytonjones on Saturday 24th November 17:37

ManicMunky

531 posts

121 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Bet it flies now!

WCZ

10,538 posts

195 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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my standard gti made 134hp with absolutely nothing IIRC smile

claytonjones

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235 posts

151 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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After driving it some more, it’s safe to say its a little rocket now. Had a side by side rolling race through Mexico with a mate in his Clio 182 which has a full exhaust and a map. 50mph 3rd gear pull, i’m ahead up until about 100 then his 2.0 gradually pulls back. Pleased with that though!

Also tried on my mates Enkei RPF1’s, what do you think? I really like them!




daniel-5zjw7

603 posts

102 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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Great stuff, loving the enkei's!! They need to stay smile

Muzzer79

10,050 posts

188 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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Those Enkeis are really, really cool

Francis85

176 posts

69 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Looks great!

How much can cost a mapping if you don't mind me asking?

claytonjones

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235 posts

151 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Francis85 said:
Looks great!

How much can cost a mapping if you don't mind me asking?
Mapping was £540 for a day and half👍🏼

claytonjones

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235 posts

151 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Well today was the last trackday of the year for me and the Lupo, at Snetterton again.
I cannot describe how good the car feels compared to the last time on track. The new rear beam and geometry really has transformed the way the car behaves, so much more balance and composure through the high speed corners! The extra power is massively noticeable also, much more low down torque out the tighter corners. But, the best part is the brakes. They really are incredible compared tonthe standard calipers.
Overall it was a good day, other than one little moment I ended uo facing the wrong way. I was chasing an MR2 for 3-4 laps, we was both pushing hard then suddenly he has a lot of smoke coming out. Can only assume the engine blew up and dumped all his oil on the track, causing me to do a 360 almost instantly lol!



M77MWW

172 posts

99 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Not bad I suppose 👀 haha

claytonjones

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235 posts

151 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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A couple of pictures from the trackday -




mcg_

1,445 posts

93 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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brilliant car

Francis85

176 posts

69 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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claytonjones said:
Francis85 said:
Looks great!

How much can cost a mapping if you don't mind me asking?
Mapping was £540 for a day and half????
Thanks. Enjoy!