designo wino CLS 55 AMG

designo wino CLS 55 AMG

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andy43

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Wednesday 17th January 2018
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KillerHERTZ said:
Cheers smile - more videos coming soon.

You will need a specialist with Mercedes STAR Diagnostic system to lower the car, a standard garage wont be able to do this. I havent noticed any change at all in the ride quality. from time to time I have scraped the rear Diff-cooler on speed bumps etc, however if you keep an eye on the road simply use the lift system to get over these.

The CLS55 boxes are louder than the E55 ones out of the factory anyway, so a C63 box wont be much louder, I went with straight pipes instead of an x-pipe, decent cheap mod.

The paddles are a steering wheel off, Dremel jobby, you can get plastic aftermarket replacements however I prefer the Aluminium OEM replacements.
More questions if I may smile
If it's lowered on Star, can you have different settings for Comfort, Sport 1 and 2? eg keep Comfort standard height, but drop it an extra 20mm in Sport 1 for instance?
And so you know if this 'wheel would fit? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-E-CLASS-W211-L...
It looks like it would, all I need now is a handy youtube video on how to swap them over... wink

andy43

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tumble dryer said:
Mr Tidy said:
Just found this thread from the "Reader's Car of the Week"!

I'm not usually a Mercedes fan, but OP your car is absolutely stunning! thumbup

The styling of the 1st Generation CLS is spot on, your colour combination is fan-bloody-tastic (no sign of the usual white to black German palette via silvers and greys) and who wouldn't love a big V8 with forced induction? cloud9

I have absolutely no need of a car like that, but I so much want one!

I hope it treats you well - just enjoy! thumbup
See, PH needs more of that kinda stuff. Well said Sir.
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Being completely honest I don't actually need this car either, but in ten years they'll be banned and in twenty years they'll be gone.

andy43

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nicfaz said:
I now own the car that the long quote was about - they are wonderful cars smile Part limo, part dragster and with the designo interiors, very special places to be too.

Lovely lovely looking car - I think it's this one? I had a velvet blue Alpina - the designo mystic blue is very close to that and probably my favourite colour, and with the cream leather cloud9


If anyone's feeling brave there's a much bluer CLS55 for sale at the moment. Blue, very blue hehe
I think in the flesh this'd look stunning.
Designo BLUE


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andy43

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ianwayne said:
Here was the original auction sale listing the OP mentioned. The sale price of £13,230 includes the commission. But there's VAT on the 5% commission too if you're not VAT registered (like most of us) so it would have been £13,381.20.

ACA have put their buyers premium up to 6% for their next classic auction, annoyingly.
Yep, that's what it sold for to the previous owner. I paid £1k premium on top six months later, but it's had multiples of that spent since April.

jaik said:
Excellent work. I was sniffing around the ad for this car shortly before you bought it, but went for a V10 S6 Avant instead. I was kind of hoping you’d say it’s rubbish to justify my decision!
It's actually completely rubbish, you're right. Wouldn't recommend one at all.
Did that help? hehe
With two kids and a dog, plus elderly relatives knocking about the place I should really have got a nice sensible family estate.
An avant quattro with a Lamborghini engine stuffed into it may have been stretching the sensible quite a bit...hope you're enjoying it!

KillerHERTZ said:
J4CKO said:
I do wonder where prices will go, I still find myself looking at 55 engined cars.
Only way is north now. they have been around £10k+ mark for past 4 years, slightly rising now.

You still looking for one? I might be selling mine v soon smile
The only way is up. Or down. You both already know these cars inside out so I'm preaching to the converted but the basic mechanics of the 55s are bullet proof compared to later AMGs - no head bolts, valvetrain clatter etc - that has to bolster values, along with the rarity and the noise. It's just the SBC brakes, airmatic and the electronics generally that let it down reliability-wise. Parts are so cheap - there's so many 211 E class and 219 CLS being broken for spares that pretty much everything is available.
I have been thinking for a while that cars like this will cease to exist... and then I'll have missed out. My idea was do it now while there's still low mileage cars out there.
It passes the 'look back' test - park, walk away, HAVE to look back. Just to check it's not pissing out vital fluids or that the suspension's collapsed...
It is mega comfy on long journeys, and it'll hitch its skirts up quite well on bendy stuff considering it's such a lardarse.
Oh, and it sounds and feels ridiculous.

MissChief said:
Ive never been a huge CLS fan but that car is fabulous. Fantastic colour and I love the interior too. So many German cars are bought in silver or black, no one has any thought for anything else. Yours is wünderbar!
Danke smile

Readers Cars said:
Might we suggest an exhaust upgrade, too?
Tick. X pipe and C63 back boxes fitted by previous owner. Epic noise.

andy43

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Chestrockwell said:
pidsy said:
This thread isn’t helping me stick to my planned replacement for the M3 (mini JCW).

Goes back to classifieds...
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Allow me... Low mileage Cooper Works step this way...
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andy43

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Chestrockwell said:
... brutal...smashed... scary... ditch..
I think that just about covers it biggrin
I've never had anything above about 280bhp. I am treading carefully...

andy43

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KillerHERTZ said:
Ive had mine for nearly 4 years, in that time it hasnt cost me any more to run than all my previous Mercs (bar petrol and rear tyres).

They are not money pits at all as long as you look after them.
Y'know that almost sounds sensible.
Except I'm budgeting for more rear tyres and fuel than an F1 team...

andy43

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Probably time for an update. Foot down : it is a rocketship. Now the roads are dry. The phrase ‘rolling onto the throttle’ is one I’ve heard many times but this is the first car I’ve owned where it’s relevant.
Flat out it sounds mental – the X pipe and C63 back boxes are sensibly burbley at light throttle under 2k rpm but it gets angry and ear splitting very easily if you press harder. I’m considering bigger back boxes or something to just calm it down a bit – and I’m typing that as a decatted TVR owner. It’s a wonderful noise but it’s too easy to get antisocial with it. The AMG cold start is a thing to behold. It's f-ing loud.

While on the subject of antisocial behaviour, about 17 mpg is currently showing, mostly low speed stuff with not much motorways. Going to Zomerset in a few weeks, 400+ mile round trip, so that should knock the average up a touch.

In terms of changes so far the debadged flanks and bootlid I think look much better, cleaner. Found an appropriate numberplate to replace the previous owners plate on the DVLA site for a mere £400 – so I definitely don’t need the badges now…

Mechanically – just one front ball joint so far. Windscreen replaced via insurance due to a crack, and they authorised a genuine Merc screen at no extra cost which I was expecting to fight for.

Replacing the missing headrest button on the power seat control panel meant a whole new control unit… £100+ from Merc. Or £12 used from ebay. Guess which I went for. But I would never have got the door to bits without a youtube how-to. Everything on this car is complex. Can't take anything to bits without googling it first.

Supercharger oil was changed – I bought a pair of three quid 100ml syringes and hoses to do this.

Used my sloped driveway and a spirit level on the ‘charger plenum to make sure it was level, bunged rags under the drain so I didn’t lose the plug when it came loose, sucked the old dark brown crap out with one syringe – it absolutely stinks – then refilled with the other syringe. I did this process twice to flush it a bit as it only uses about 150ml a time and the oil container is nearly a litre. Hardest part was getting the drain plug (with a few turns of ptfe tape round the thread) back in – very fiddly.

Old - liquid goat st

New - honey coloured Jetoil II


I have cleaned this car a lot. It really needs to live in the garage. Gliptone’d the leather a couple of times. It’s booked in for a paint correction detail – I have never had anybody professionally clean my car, never mind attack it with a machine polisher so this should be interesting. Snow foam wash, tar removal, de-ironing, clay bar, single stage polish and then swissvax wax on top rather than a ceramic coating. I'll stick some post-polished pics up, provided the local birds don't crap on it before I get the camera out.

Tech : I bought a genuine Merc 2018 satnav disc from ebay for £30 and the nav works now the faulty aerial has been replaced. Utter crap satnav compared to modern cars, but it’ll do.
I was thinking about upgrading the Comand head unit to a chinese android jobbie but in the end I’ve decided to keep it original so added a Pure Highway 400 DAB unit, tucking the bluetooth head unit into the ashtray so it’s hidden with the flap closed. Aerial is stuck to the passenger side of the windscreen. Power from an extra lighter socket fitted in the glovebox, next to the factory Aux In 1/8” socket for the Comand unit. Another struggle getting from the existing lighter socket round to the glove box - behind the dash is packed full of electrical 'stuff' on this car.

I was also considering a ‘remap’, pulley, bigger cooler and pump etc etc but instead I’ve just had the ECU and TCU updated to the latest (latest is 2007 I think - modern!) software via a Star-equipped specialist – costwise a couple of hours labour. It has smoothed the gearchanges out a touch with fewer clunky shifts, and I’m convinced the supercharger isn’t coming in with such a noticeable thump now either.

So to sum up, absolutely loving this car. The CLS regardless of powerplant is a class act. Add in the daft engine and the looks, noise, feel, everything, is just very special – think I have only seen one other ’55 out and about, plus a couple of E55s. Howmanyleft suggests just 372 CLS55s are in the UK, spread between ’05 and ‘07. Don't make 'em like this anymore.

Future plans : rear tyres, probably Goodyears to match the fronts. Don't like mismatched tyres. Service – I’ll use MB for this to keep the stamped history up. Paint those wheelhubs VHT silver. Maybe the rear arches too – slight bubbling evident. Won't use the silver paint there though. Geo check – that rear end still feels baggy. Keep pouring petrol into it smile

andy43

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Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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August. Car was detailed about six weeks ago - massive difference. Much fewer swirls and even some of the deeper scratches have improved. It was a ten hour job, topped off with swissvax shield which has teflon or powdered unicorns in it or something. Beading in the rain is unreal. Excuse arse crack.

And it's much easier to clean smile

Paddles!! G Paddles from ebay. Plastic but they work great and are dead easy to fit in place of the old buttons.

Car will hit 60k in the next week or so, which means I'm getting close to my insurance 5k mileage limit.
Plan is to get space in the garage before the winter. Note to self, clear garage.
I just had another text from the previous owner asking if I want to sell. Noooooo.

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31? Bah.. I've seen way over 20 but without hours of steady motorway driving it's generally a couple of mpg below that. 30 would be impossible. The later n/a 5.5 litre you have is close to 400bhp anyway IIRC - a genuine sleeper as an estate.


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Chestrockwell said:
I cannot get over this car and that engine, I’ve heard SL55’s on light throttle and it sounds demonic, much better than C63’s I think, haven’t heard one at full throttle though.

Please can you describe kick down at 30 mph, flat out on a slip road joining a dual carriage way
Simple answer - loud and fast. At 30 it’d kick down into second and just go. Torque low down is brilliant, but dropping a gear (there’s only 5...) is great fun. There’s a two lane upwards sloping sliproad onto the motorway near me that has a concrete wall up one side and flooring it up there is very childish but if all the surrounding cars have their windows shut it’s safe to do so smile

andy43

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Saturday 24th November 2018
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Another update : 60,000 on the clock now. And after the poor thing was outside all last winter I now have some warm and cosy garage space for it, and an Optimate hardwired to the under-boot-floor battery just in case.
Insurance is due - nearly £500 this year from Classicline so I need to shop around this week.

MOT passed with flying colours apart from slight play in a front wheel bearing and (shock horror) needing new rear tyres - which is where it got interesting.

Front are Goodyear in great shape, rears were Pirelli 295/30/19 fitted by previous owner, with the inner edges in particular getting past their best.
Standard size should be 285, but the internetz blathers on about 295 being wider, better, cheaper. So that's what had been fitted.
I got a pair of same-sized Goodyears and took 'em with me to the MOT.
Up on the MOT ramp before the tyres were swapped and it was pointed out by my MOT/tyre/TVR wizard that the existing Pirellis looked ridiculous - inner sidewall was way off square to the wheel, really rolled over, not supporting the car at all.
Outer sidewall looked fine - but the inner looked plain silly with evidence of rubbing on the plastic arch liner. Clearly wrong when fitted to the standard alloys, and odd that just the inner sidewall was rolled over so much - might just be an asymmetric Pirelli 'characteristic' with other brands being completely fine.

No way was I risking fitting another pair in that size. Sent the 295s back to mytyres who were really helpful and I got the correct more expensive 285/30/19 Goodyears which are now on the car, again asymmetric in design.
Previously whatever tyre pressures I tried the rear of the car felt loose, skittish, uncontrollable. Not now. Big difference that even a hamfisted me can spot. It would corkscrew and twist from side to side from the rear on full throttle but now it's just much more level and grippy, possibly because the tyres are now holding the car up correctly. Very happy!!

New MB drivers window regulator just been fitted by my local Merc specialist Nick Webster after it made some very expensive sounding chewing noises and stopped moving - not cheap going for OEM when you can get a replacement cable kit off ebay for less than a tenner but if it's worth doing it's worth doing right. Courtesy car for the day was a 211 E320 estate in Avantgarde spec with a quarter of a million miles on it - and a PH badge on the boot for an extra 5bhp. One thing the CLS is missing is that three pointed star on the bonnet. Makes any car feel special.

Service isn't due yet but I'm gong to get it done before the winter. Main dealers are such hard work on the phone - their call centre literally has no idea on a car of this age so I'm thinking of ruining the continuous set of MB stamps in the book and going indie. We shall see.

Also - killerhertz has been adding to his videos which are well worth a watch - https://www.youtube.com/user/karlkillerhertz/video... - some really useful stuff I wasn't aware of particularly on the 5 hidden tricks vids thumbup

andy43

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Well, it is time...
Nothing to report other than an A service at Mercedes, but due to a 'lifestyle' change the CLS's limitations were starting to show - no room for dog, no room for mother-in-law (actually a plus point...), and although it's an event every single time you drive it, the mpg for regular long distance trips would be painful.
We have euro trips planned, driving from t'frozen north down to the Algarve with dog (not mother-in-law...), so I've been looking around for a nice sensible long distance car, which I collected yesterday.
It's an Audi A7.
Diesel.
Shoot me now.
Plus points : BiTurbo, 500 torques, self driving capabilities, and it does have quite shapely hips. 5 seats, bootspace for dog, and a good stereo.
Did look at the W218 Shooting Brake - saying 'shall we take the shooting brake' sounds almost as good as 'shall we take the Aston' but unless you're an undertaker the estate is just too damn big.
I'm hoping The Black Audi will grow on me <bitesbackofhand>
Absolutely loved owning this car. Bugger.

andy43

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Sunday 18th August 2019
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swisstoni said:
Just out of interest (ive got an SL55) what prompted the supercharger oil change?

Is it not taken care of by the normal MB service schedule or was it just precautionary?
It’s ‘sealed for life’ but the US forums do say it should be a service item, although maybe only every 100k or so. For not much money and a bit of fiddling I thought it was worth doing. The stinking oil that came out proved my theory. Horrible stuff.

BigFatWombat said:
Seriously? Where does the dog go in an A7 that it couldn’t go in the CLS? Unless it’s a really odd shaped dog?
In the boot. Dog has never been in the CLS jumping all over the seats with claws in the wood work - no chance.
I never really took much notice of these Audis until a few months ago - I thought the A7 was a similar competitor of the CLS and 6 series Gran Coupe but it’s actually a proper hatchback plus it’s a 5 seater not 4 - it’s even got folding back seats.
Already have an old Landcruiser for my local dogging activities and moving crap about so another estate-type car would obviously work but international dogging needs something more svelte and sophisticated - cue swoopy curvy four door coupe diesel hatchback.

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Polarbert said:
That colour is stunning. I too am a fan of cars not optioned for resale. Life is too short.
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Incoming A7 is resale black, with about 15k of options chucked at it, but cosmetically boring... I'm going to miss the CLS's wood for sure.
Alex_225 said:
Looks like a great example of a CLS55 OP, that colour is really something once the sun hits it. Good to see you had it detailed as that colour is ideal to show off when it's been polished to perfection and protected.

Good to hear you rate the CLS as an overall car. I have a CLS63 myself so I can totally understand that AMG-ness and what it adds to the car. The noise, the power and the styling all add up to somethign special. That said my other half has a CLS350 CDI which is her 'mum' car. It does 95% of what my CLS does, it's quiet, refined, well spec'd and comfortable plus I think the styling of the W219 holds up well considering it's a 15+ year old design.
Read your '63 thread already - looks a great example. Buying from a detailer is a good sign!
Needs more miles putting on it!

andy43

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Friday 6th September 2019
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Yes you can get roof mounted bike racks. If you google w219 cycle rack there's a few options. Not advertised mine yet - am doing so next week - I'm near Manchester smile

andy43

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rider73 said:
andy43 said:
Yes you can get roof mounted bike racks. If you google w219 cycle rack there's a few options. Not advertised mine yet - am doing so next week - I'm near Manchester smile
Well i can be near Manchester - is there a way to message each other on this forum?
Yes - PM button in my profile or somewhere...
Cycle rack - yes - google w219 bike rack - there's a few available.
Tyres - yes - Goodyears all round. I already mentioned getting the right sized rears - the difference between the 295 Pirellis that came off and the correct 285 Goodyears is ridiculous. With hindsight the back end literally felt broken on those Pirellis. Gawd knows what Nangkangs would feel like...

andy43

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Tuesday 17th September 2019
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rider73 said:
Is this up for sale yet - i cannot see it in my autotrader searches :-)
I always check Pistonheads first if I'm looking for a car (AMG section). Or maybe ebay boxedin

BUG4LIFE said:
What a stunning car...reading this thread has now got me trying to work out if a CLS55 can be a sensible purchase in any way, in the same way you could class a Lexus ISF sensible as they’re apparently very reliable or how I told my OH my Forester STi was sensible as it has a big boot?!
Yes. It's incredibly sensible. Honest wink

andy43

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Friday 27th September 2019
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Sold. Damn. Why do I feel like this is my ‘just flogged a 15k 964 RS’ moment? Will be sadly missed.

andy43

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Saturday 5th October 2019
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aaron96 said:
I am the proud new owner of this car. If anyone happens to find out anything about it or knows of a previous owner etc please feel free to inbox me.
Enjoy it! Missing it. These cars are a real event every time you press the start button. End of an era.
Ninjacj said:
Wow , a certainly lovely and very rare spec car. Loved the plate too! I've just joined the M113k club, how did you find those G-paddles? Just wondered if they would feel a bit 'cheap' being plastic not aluminium?
They felt ok to me - vast improvement on the OE plastic buttons, and not overly large and silly looking.
Aluminium would be better but they're a 3 dimensional part soe wouldn't be cheap to make. Bit fiddly to fit levering the switch apart but worth doing.
M113K Klub - welcome. The clubhouse (excellent sausage rolls btw) is over there by the Shell sign biggrin