Rover 75 CDTi Tourer

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Spinakerr

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Saturday 16th July 2022
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Muddle238 said:
Sounds like an open and shut case; if you want 75/ZT sills doing, he’s the man to go to.

Enjoy washing it!

My headlamps are beginning to show signs of UV fading, a nice easy job to sort out but are getting worse almost every day…
The 3M kit worked well for me - I do have to cut a little bit every few months, then add some aerospace UV protector. Seems to do the job but it'll never be perfect.

Standard PH update - oil change and a good scrub.







Not a bad looking 184k-year-old. Aiming to get to Jules in Wales in August or so.



Spinakerr

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Friday 12th August 2022
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CambsStuart - Millers 10W40, changed roughly every 5-6k. Never had a problem, purchased when on offer in bulk!


Our annual holiday to Cornwall was the familiar, easy break we needed - no airports, no ports, no fretting over luggage and Rover 75 we knew is a redoubtable, comfortable lugger for the locale.

While I may not be able to match r129's peerless planning, narration and photography for these hallowed pages, I will endeavour to transport you, humble reader, for a few minutes, to the villages of Mousehole and Fowey in air-conditioned, leather-shrouded Roversnugness.

The 75 was certified 'ready' in an afternoon with a top up of fluids and quick wash - the brake discs at the front be damned! The first leg took us down to Somerset to see my parents, raid their cellars and grill things, then a early morning jaunt to the Eden Project where my wife spent hours correcting the latin names of the plants, and I managed somehow to ignore the crowds and love the domes.



..then it was on to Mousehole, our favourite spot in Cornwall, after a trouble-free (and surprisingly traffic free) 3.5 hours. While we didn't pick up any car parts this time, the 'northern' route was without incident. A few beers at sunset and this view form the pub window - you know that's a proper holiday kicking off.



In true human sterotype fashion, a Dutch-plated Discovery had parked across two spaces for our arrival, so my wife (who described the bloated box's offset numberplate as an 'abheration to design') just boxed it in, unloaded and told the hotel manager to call us if they ever wanted to leave. She then unplugged the hotel phone.

A light exchange of views and Dutch swearies later:



We caught the weather between the heatwaves, which is perfect for our pale selves and the snorkelling/diving we favour. Highlights over the next few days includes the best-kept secret swimming beach, Prussia Cove:





...as well as a carefully endured day in St Ives to see an open-air theatre of King Lear. Of note, Cornwall planners, in St Ives is the 'Island' car park, which is all the way through town at the very tip. Threading the Rover through pedestrian-packed narrow streets and unforgiving walls may not be everyone's idea of fun, but the 75 negotiated it with ease.





Its a risk that a space may not arise for the first hour (as it was with us), but if you're there for the day it sure beats the park and ride from the rugby club.



Also of note is the old Rover garage at Newlyn - we didn't get a shot of the 75 outside it, but great to chat with the proprieter and see a few very low-mileage examples alongside popular TFs.





From Mousehole we spent a few days in Fowey, truly a jewel of Cornwall, that is familiar stop for the Rover.



Eight days, 600 miles, and the air con only started to be less than freezing in the last few wheezing moment of the M3 return leg. I sympathise - a return to London, especially when it resembles Arizona as it now does, is mentally malnourishing.

The 75 didn't miss a beat, and it appears to have cracked 50mpg average for the trip. I'll treat it to a proper bath to shake off the sand and rinse out the salt. Onwards to 190k!



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Edited by Spinakerr on Saturday 13th August 07:20

Spinakerr

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Thank you all - I have always thought those that return to the same location each year for holidays are doing holidays 'wrong' and everything should be a new adventure each time. I have since adjusted my view; at least one trip per year should be a known quantity, with zero fuss and hopefully a known car for transport.

Yes St Ives is a challenge except in the winter - on this occasion we wanted to get to the Tate, the Barbara Hepworth workshop, which was well worth the parking hassle, and the open air theatre in the evening.

Update - the air con finally exhaled the last of its cool air yesterday, so here's to the end of the heatwave tomorrow, fingers crossed!

Spinakerr

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This happened.



I may have had you for a second, but actually this is a friend's recent acquisition. I have ground him down over the years and he was keen to find a very clean example following a job move and the need for a reliable, comfortable mile-munching estate.

After he drove several examples of varying quality, engines and colours, this well- polished example turned up from an, erm, 'enthusiastic' owner in Thetford who had completed several rounds of pro-active maintenance, and fortunately it was a diesel manual to boot.

As you can see, it was very clean, garaged and scrubbed significantly for the past few years, and garaged for much of them.



Good colour, great condition, 110k, serpent 17in alloys... it necessitated a fair trek on a Saturday but I gave it a thorough check and couldn't find any faults that couldnt be easily fixed (5 new tyres requires, some tired front suspension. It has also been extensively waxoiled and well serviced by a Rover.

The main item that put me, and I think other potential buyers off, was the swathes of what can only be described as 'tat' attached to every possible nook and cranny.

Here is a small, but eye-gougingly awful sample of the true horrors of too much eBay:

Reflectors, LED stick on lights, chrome piping for the interior...



Plastic wood in War-Of-The-Worlds-Red-Mould levels throughout...



Not things you miss at even 5th viewing, like the plastic chrome on the vent blades...











Also several items to be removed immediately - fuel line 'magnets' and a spaghettified Synergy box looking ropey and by the look of the bills, chewing through fuel pumps.

But! Taste and interior aside, a very sound and well-kept example that I was happy to see my friend excitedly pay money for (his first car purchase, aged 28 - straight into Patridgian 40s by now), and at a nearby pub we toasted a successful hunt with a binful of tat and a pint.



Isopropyl, scredrivers and razorblades at the ready...

Our trusty 75 is on 187k and due a few service items & I think sunny Wales is calling me.

Spinakerr

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Monday 5th September 2022
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It will all be going in the bin, though sadly some of the chrome on the air vents covered up a number of broken fins...

I can't believe none of you noticed the diamante rings on the headrest supports...

My eyes... the goggles, they do nothing!

Spinakerr

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Monday 5th September 2022
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B'stard Child said:
Haha - The Angel is my local - great pub

Good luck with tat removal - seems to be a thing with lots of cars these days….
Oh if only I had known, you could have helped fill the bins with chrome over an Adnams!

Top pub, great staff.

Spinakerr

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Sunday 30th October 2022
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The list of little jobs had grown to be a big one on the 75, and some hard miles added the last two years by my wife's outdoor workprompted a visit to Jules in North Wales. This time my wife came with me, as there was a delightful AirBnb next door to Jules now open.

Of course, a hardworking car is never the cleanest to work on...after a midnight arrival from the South, the patient was looking... agricultural.



As always, the local wildlife was reassuringly MG Rover shaped.





First job - rear shocks. These were boucing unevenly and the MOT tester commented on 'misting', so I decided a new pair was in order.

A fair bit of trim has to come out for access in the Tourer, including bolsters, plastic mouldings, the rear hatch carrier. One design specification for the 75 was no visible screws, so a lot of covers and hatches were moved aside with needle nosed pliers and their ilk.





One item of note - the little coat hooks in the rear load area have this 'soft close' gearing. Delightful.



After that little Torx adventure, we had a hilarious time trying to get wheel nuts off. Looking at the history, the usually outstanding Micheldever tyre had torqued these up to the nth degree. Thank goodness we hadn't had any roadside puncture this past year, as we had to deploy jacks, wood and breaker bars to unscrew them. Tedious.

Finally, the shocks were accessible with two top 13mm nuts. The RH rear was a Delphi replacement, quite solid, while the LH was, incredibly, the original Rover item. 190k and still vaguely working. Amazing.





The tops were... slightly pastrified...nothing an angle grinder wouldn't sort out.



Note the part worn rear left disc. We examined and Jules said the caliper likely sticking. Pads on that side were well down too. He removed it and sure enough decrepit seals and various crusty bits signalled some work required. Derustification, sanding of the piston and disassembly followed. Jules had everything in stock, so with new seals, correct grease and a fair bit of fettling the caliper went back together, new pads went in on both sides.





New shocks on, Jules re-cali'per'ated the brakes, handbrake and bled the rears. I held the torch. Rear went back together, wheels on, this time not torued to a different time zone, and it was beer time.

The next day, the fronts gave us a similar battle.



I decided to make myself scarce as the swearing began, and fortunately GT85 and a fair few implemented got them off without a broken locking wheel nut. I will be more careful in observing torqueness in future by Micheldever. First time I've had a problem like that in 20 years!

Wheels off, front discs off and replaced, fortunately all bolts and bits came off without drama.

As Jules tackled that, I replaced the bottom rear engine mount, a common failure on the diesels that provides a noticeable damping effect when setting off or braking. A few easy bolts, NOS part from the stores and it was done in a few minutes. Amazingly, this was also the original.







Next up, an embarrasing moment - the cause of the oil misting around the front left was my doing. I had incorrectly mounted the viton seals from above for the hard intercooler pipe. We remove the front bumper and confirmed - I did bad 6 years ago:







Reaseating and cleaning completed, we also replaced the lower intercooler hose as it was lookign decidedly sluglike and porous.



The reversing switch had given up, which explained the lack of rear parkign sensors and reversing lights in one go. Luckily this was a simple, cheap part that just screws into the gearbox.



Jules also decided it was the ideal time to clean up our headlights, and I was instructed to buy the correct lacquer, which I promise is on its way and will be applied immediately.



In a final flurry of activity, front brake discs and pads were changed, fluid bled, air con checked and regassed, and a few trim clips replaced to solve various rattles and creaks.

We made it to the local pumpkin festival....



...and ticked over 190k as we left Colwyn Bay. A top trip and theraupeatic few days, as always, that ensures the 75 is set for the impending winter.



Spinakerr

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Sunday 30th October 2022
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Thanks all - this was the first time we completed everything on the to-do list!

Poly mounts are fine for the petrol engines and maybe match a ZT, but the M47 diesel is too much of a rumbling vibratotron - Jules recommends OE rubber as supplied for smooth sailing.

Spinakerr

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Monday 31st October 2022
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Cambs_Stuart said:
An entertaining update as always. As with Phil at alfa craft I'm impressed that you've built up a relationship with these people/firms where they'll let owers into the workshop to help out.
Ah...thanks... it takes many years of not saying or doing anything too silly to be accepted! Deep down, all cantankerous lone wolf savants want to pass on their knowledge.

mercedeslimos said:
When we bought our 75, the lower one was a poly mount - I replaced it with the commonly modified Mondeo MK3 mount - this still seems fine, but the engine still shunts on takeoff and sometimes on gearchange. I've replaced the hydro mount cone-shaped one too. I'm wondering if is there enough movement in that small bush on the driver's side up top above the hydro to cause this? Wouldn't have thought the gearbox mount where it is situated would cause that sort of movement.

Good to see you sorting her out - ours just passed the test for another twelve months with a wishbone, drop links and back pads - and a little welding, as is de rigueur biggrin
Hmmm I'm no expert but if its the last one standing... worth a try. I can say the last few hundred miles have been some of the smoothest ever in the 75 - smooth set offs are a joy and the rear utters nothing over bumps. The car is more smooth and controlled than it has ever been. Sorting out all the interior trim to remove squeaks, groans and rattles also made a significant difference!

RazerSauber said:
I have no idea why, I don't have any major interest in Rovers but this is a fantastically entertaining thread. More, please!
Appreciate it - I aim to make the maintenance the focus - it could be any car but the 75 really has become part of our family. The wife has put another few hundred on since the weekend in torrential rain, and the brakes are now bedded in all round. It is stopping perfectly and evenly.


Spinakerr

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Friday 4th November 2022
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Muddle238 said:
Nice update.

did the lower mount replacement make a noticeable difference to the vibrations? Mine vibrates on occasion, Jules replaced the hydramount earlier this year, while I replaced the lower mount about 5 years/80k ago… wondering whether I ought to replace it again incase I used a naff part the first time round.
Idling maybe a slight amount, the main impact of the lower change is on setting off/braking. It now resists lurching around, similar to when we replace the front mount in our Saab 900.

I believe I may have secured Jules' last genuine part from his stock... apologies...!

Spinakerr

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Saturday 3rd December 2022
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The 75 continues normal service, just two small items to post - a dipped beam bulb replacement (contortionist routine and experience meant this took only a few minutes and not the 30 minutes it clocked in at years ago) and reinstatement of the missing boot cover hatch.



Here's a picture of the bulb hatch cover - always missing or incorrectly attached for Rovers and MG ZTs. Never, ever let Halfords or equivalent near these items. Learn to do it yourself. It is easy.




This handle had always been missing - we never even thought it would have one until Jules noted it and could be bought new.







The potential extension of the ULEZ in August 2023 will mean the end of this trusty workhorse. I will leave me feelings on sledgehammer politics, the state of useable public transport, the environmental gain of scrappage schemes and the ladling of debt for new cars onto the lowest paid in times of high interest rates and record inflation for another time. Without a cohesive challenge or delay we will sadly be looking for the right owner for YMY in the new year.

Spinakerr

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Saturday 11th March 2023
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markirl said:
What will you replace with? Why not a 1.8t or 2.5v6 of the same?
See my other thread ... MG ZT-T 260. The only sensible choice.

The 75 continues, as expected, to pile on the miles and be our faithful lugger. So far this year several large items moved around a bit, tackled a lot of muddy miles for her work and completed a trip to Cornwall for my wife and her sister.

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In Feb it was our reliable airport lugger in the ice & snow for our first holiday in a while.



While visiting friends in Salzburg I was slightly surprised to see a ZT saloon. As it is a town of cobbled streets, beautiful vistas and euro-boxes that absolutely brought to mind Ronin and other 90s/00s thrillers, the ZT looked absolutely perfect in the environment. Time continues to solidify its quiet, neat and slightly sinister presence.



Finally, I see the 75 in daylight for the first time in a while its clear its brought its usual 2kg of Cornwall back, along with the usual winter blarf.



A clean is due this weekend as MOT time next Sat. As if to mock me and the impending test, it blew a H7 dipped beam bulb and turned on the airbag light last week. The airbag light solved as always by a wiggle and clean of the plugs under the seats. The bulb was definitely blown, so I resumed the usual 'arm into the wheel arch' position beloved of all 75/ZT fanatics. I stared blankly into the middle distance as the hatch was removed, rubber bulb cover off and bulb holder rotated ~45 degrees to remove.



Incredibly, I had a headlight bulb in the boot. This never happens.





Faults cleared, a thrumming at speed had been reported. I took a look at the engine bay and major moving parts. Nothign obvious amiss, but some screws were missing for various undertray bits, so I sifted through my box of random old rusty bits to secure it all. We'll see if any noise persists.



Right. I've put it off long enough. Time to give it a proper clean.




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Spinakerr

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Monday 13th March 2023
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Yes it is all rather bittersweet, but I'm glad I managed to get every single major job done. It been a journey, in all senses, of nearly 90k in this car.

My Triumph GT6 was my 'wedding car', but the 75 lugged everything around to make it possible. It was the first car my wife bought herself, and remains in all weather service. I will miss it a lot.

Spinakerr

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Saturday 18th March 2023
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Cambs_Stuart said:
Strange how some cars really get into your affections. 18 years ago I traded in my 306 gti6 for a mk1 ford focus zetc. And with the ford I met my wife, we had a baby, got married and traveled all over the country. I had it for 35,000 miles and it only needed a thermostat housing and an engine mount. I genuinely had a lump in my throat when it went.
Gosh that's a real journey. And people wonder why we get sentimental about cars over other objects!

Fresh MOT on the 75 today, advisory free after all the prep work last weekend, although the team did change my wipers as they were about to disintegrate. Just in time for the rain. I have no idea how we managed with the previous wipers for so long. Only other comment was something along the lines of 'finally changed the discs then'.





As is tradition, the car received a scrub and polish for passing an MOT, with an extra bit of alloy protection for not having any advisories.



Quite a few tasks planned for it before we part company, so very happy it has a clean bill of health.

Spinakerr

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Monday 17th April 2023
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Well, this wasn't part of the plan.



According to our neighbours, who thankfully witness it, a van drove into our beloved 75 as it was parked outside out house in the morning.

No note left and the doorbell was not rung - we were both at home - they drove off after having a quick chat with our neighbours.

Fortunately several took photos of the van to get the registration and the name of the company, written on the side.

Now begins the dance of the insurance companies...

Edited by Spinakerr on Monday 17th April 21:40

Spinakerr

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Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Thanks - following advice here and on other PH threads we are going to approach the other party's insurance directly.

The problem we have is no note or contact, I am having to discuss via the company office.

Any tips on how to proceed? Our insurance company had my wife running into dead ends for hours yesterday. I'm hoping we can cancel our claim and cut out the (obstructive) middle men to get the easiest conclusion.

Edited by Spinakerr on Wednesday 26th April 22:40

Spinakerr

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Friday 2nd June 2023
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Thanks for all the comments (and the PMs with advice!) - the 75 has dodged a bullet, fanstatically. The insurer for the van driver (Allianz, who were excellent throughout) went the extra mile and ensured a settlement was paid to cover the repair and also pushed to remove the 'write off' tag at the DVLA incorrectly applied (automatically) by our incompetent insurer.

My wife spent countless hours on hold with our insurers and being passed around various interchangeable underwritersm, valuers, assessors, etc, all of who didnt seem to be able to help at all. Ultimately they never called us back, over several weeks of trying, failed to follow any of our requests or instructions, and tried to slap a write off ticket on the car without consulting us and against our express wishes.

Happily, Allianz figured it out and made up for the errors made!

99t said:
Very annoying, however given that you were getting rid anyway...

Assuming the company involved will accept liability and cough up when presented with a couple of sensible estimates, I'd be tempted to fit a used light, hot air gun the bumper in the hope it will pop out and polish the worst of the scuffs away.

It'll look 90% better and I bet the loss in value at the point of sale will be less than the cash pocketed re: the estimates...
Exactly what I have done - rear light covered by the payout (wow these have got expensive), plus a loom and some bolts/fixtures. Bumper foam renewed and potential to repaint in future.





Car soldiers on and thankfully back into service after 2 weeks.

Moderator edit: no naming & shaming please


Spinakerr

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B'stard Child said:
Hang on a second - are you saying your insurance company wrote it off without you claiming on your own policy??

Don’t name the muppets on here because that’s against the rules but credit to Alliance for fixing it as well as dealing with the situation well
That's correct. A terrible experience and extremely stressful - I had actually named them (sorry Mods!) but now realise against the rules.

Luckily, the Rover is back to its old self, just with a few new scars.

Spinakerr

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Monday 14th August 2023
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Sadly now up for sale (on PH - am I allowed to say that?). Very keen to see this go to a good home, so get in touch if you want to take a look.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15463684

It does scrub up well, mind.




Edited by Spinakerr on Monday 14th August 17:00

Spinakerr

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Monday 14th August 2023
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Cambs_Stuart said:
Looks a bargain. Hope the sale goes ok.
Thanks - you know how it is when you put off doing somethign for so long it becomes a real issue? That's how this feels...

Appreciate all the notes of encouragement over the years. There are always times (I'm looking at you, 'raising the engine to get the alternator out' job) when it can be a pain but the car always rewarded us with a a reliable, comfortable few 1000 miles afterwards.