Rover 75 CDTi Tourer
Discussion
mercedeslimos said:
You mean the drop links that don't last pissing time!?
I always drop the oil, never trusted doing the pump method to pull all the crap out.
Unless you remove the sump every time, you'll never get all the 'crap' out by draining via the sump plug either...I always drop the oil, never trusted doing the pump method to pull all the crap out.
The pumps do a very good job and leave about the same amount of il in the pan as is left when using the sump plug
Spinakerr said:
Thanks for the the comments! I can't begrudge people in forums posting pictures of fully working cars and discussing them, I just prefer getting my hands dirty on old vehicles!
What keeps me coming back to PH is the variety of cars and even approaches in just this sub-forum of Reader's Cars. I may always scoff at moderns SUVs or somebody spending four figures on new alloy wheels, but its good to see the full spectrum of the car community. Otherwise I would just be on the Rover 75 forums debating what shade of warm white LED bulb should go over a number plate!
Another year, another oil change on the 75 using the Pela pump - 164k, averaging about 7k a year at present so I suppose its enjoying a retirement of sorts.
36mm socket on the Stahlwille...
Engine cover off, vacuum pump down the dipstick tube:
Once all that delightful sooty treacle had been extracted, 36mm socket on the oil filter housing and a quick change of the O rings on the housing. OX153D2 is the Mahle part number... comes wiht only the housing seal though!
Some lovely new Millers 10W40 down the hatch and its all set for another year of motoring, barring any catastrophes. In fact, the only thing currently on the 'Rover To Do List' is replace the slightly tatty driver's seat. Oh and the drop links! Forgot about those...
Great job OPWhat keeps me coming back to PH is the variety of cars and even approaches in just this sub-forum of Reader's Cars. I may always scoff at moderns SUVs or somebody spending four figures on new alloy wheels, but its good to see the full spectrum of the car community. Otherwise I would just be on the Rover 75 forums debating what shade of warm white LED bulb should go over a number plate!
Another year, another oil change on the 75 using the Pela pump - 164k, averaging about 7k a year at present so I suppose its enjoying a retirement of sorts.
36mm socket on the Stahlwille...
Engine cover off, vacuum pump down the dipstick tube:
Once all that delightful sooty treacle had been extracted, 36mm socket on the oil filter housing and a quick change of the O rings on the housing. OX153D2 is the Mahle part number... comes wiht only the housing seal though!
Some lovely new Millers 10W40 down the hatch and its all set for another year of motoring, barring any catastrophes. In fact, the only thing currently on the 'Rover To Do List' is replace the slightly tatty driver's seat. Oh and the drop links! Forgot about those...
I did my oil earlier this year via my Sealey vac pump etc on my 530i touring; they're a great tool, more so when you need to faff about under the car to get to the sump etc
I do change the oil in my engine at east twice a year; personal choice, but with the limited mileage I do and age of engine (it'll be 18 in October); I'd rather have nice fresh oil in there and for the price of less than half a tank of fuel!
Yes it has 10w40 in the handbook I have, but according to the Rover wizardry texts anything from 0w40 to 10w40 was recommended throughout production.
I always think the change intervals are most important, and I've started using Millers over Mobil1 from a bulk buy cost and fancy mineral content reasons.
I did drop the whole pan a few year ago and it was clean as diesel-baked oil-covered whistle could be. Since then I've only used the Pela pump every 10k or year, whichever came first.
If this engine was going to give up based on oil I think it would have happened a while ago, and I generally think at higher mileages a slightly thicker oil can't be bad.
Received the drop links but don't think I'll get to them for a few weeks - should be a fun little job!
I always think the change intervals are most important, and I've started using Millers over Mobil1 from a bulk buy cost and fancy mineral content reasons.
I did drop the whole pan a few year ago and it was clean as diesel-baked oil-covered whistle could be. Since then I've only used the Pela pump every 10k or year, whichever came first.
If this engine was going to give up based on oil I think it would have happened a while ago, and I generally think at higher mileages a slightly thicker oil can't be bad.
Received the drop links but don't think I'll get to them for a few weeks - should be a fun little job!
Spinakerr said:
Yes it has 10w40 in the handbook I have, but according to the Rover wizardry texts anything from 0w40 to 10w40 was recommended throughout production.
I always think the change intervals are most important, and I've started using Millers over Mobil1 from a bulk buy cost and fancy mineral content reasons.
I did drop the whole pan a few year ago and it was clean as diesel-baked oil-covered whistle could be. Since then I've only used the Pela pump every 10k or year, whichever came first.
If this engine was going to give up based on oil I think it would have happened a while ago, and I generally think at higher mileages a slightly thicker oil can't be bad.
Received the drop links but don't think I'll get to them for a few weeks - should be a fun little job!
As you say at the age of these cars the frequency of oil changes is more important than the oil grade. They are solid old lumps. I always think the change intervals are most important, and I've started using Millers over Mobil1 from a bulk buy cost and fancy mineral content reasons.
I did drop the whole pan a few year ago and it was clean as diesel-baked oil-covered whistle could be. Since then I've only used the Pela pump every 10k or year, whichever came first.
If this engine was going to give up based on oil I think it would have happened a while ago, and I generally think at higher mileages a slightly thicker oil can't be bad.
Received the drop links but don't think I'll get to them for a few weeks - should be a fun little job!
d_a_n1979 said:
mercedeslimos said:
You mean the drop links that don't last pissing time!?
I always drop the oil, never trusted doing the pump method to pull all the crap out.
Unless you remove the sump every time, you'll never get all the 'crap' out by draining via the sump plug either...I always drop the oil, never trusted doing the pump method to pull all the crap out.
The pumps do a very good job and leave about the same amount of il in the pan as is left when using the sump plug
Spinakerr said:
Filter is on the top next to the dipstick tube - see photo above - all very simple!
Total time for a complete change, around 10 mins.
Oh, doh, so it is! It wouldn't save much time on the KV6, as you would still need to get the car in the air and the undercover off to change the filter.Total time for a complete change, around 10 mins.
Let us know how you get on with the drop links, not sure if you have done them before, but I wish I had listened to the trick of shortening the ends before installing them!
PrinceRupert said:
Oh, doh, so it is! It wouldn't save much time on the KV6, as you would still need to get the car in the air and the undercover off to change the filter.
Let us know how you get on with the drop links, not sure if you have done them before, but I wish I had listened to the trick of shortening the ends before installing them!
Haha yup... Just thatLet us know how you get on with the drop links, not sure if you have done them before, but I wish I had listened to the trick of shortening the ends before installing them!
It’s a doddle on my 530i as like the M47, the filter housing is on the top of the engine
But yes, on the KV6 it’s all underneath, unfortunately
The 75 has completed another 600 miles in a round trip to the farthest nook of Cornwall, sadly without me as the wife went off to see some family.
Obligatory sea shot, as she wasn't too fussed with Rover 75 in foreground shots:
Unfortunately while at a particularly remote location the car gave some tell-tale 'low battery' noises and would not turn over. Wife called RAC for assessment (as the timing was particularly long for a response), then called me. Fearing I had misfitted the alternator or disturbed slumbering wiring, we performed some checks over the phone. Fortunately everything was in order, and RAC man turned up in decent time to the windswept lighthouse.
Battery death was diagnosed by the RAC. Always doubtful, I asked the wife to read the screen, and their 'tester' showed that the maximum charge the battery could hold was 300 amps, significantly below the 620 printed on the side. I didn't quite see how this problem reared itself only now, after the car had covered perhaps 400 miles since the alternator change, but reasoned if the alternator was decrepit this may be the last paragraph in the battery's obituary after a few months.
While the RAC had a battery in the van, they wanted a rather gouging 149 pounds for it, a hefty 100% over the same Varta item online. Wife is no stranger to fitting easy items and had a small toolit, but she needed to leave the place she was staying that day, and so I couldn't overnight a battery from Tayna. We both grimaced and coughed up, RAC fitted and of course it leapt into life straight away.
Charging figures looked good (as I was worried it was the new alternator killing it), but I will check it again in the coming weeks to be sure. I checked the history and the battery was last changed when we got the car, so almost 6 years and 40k ago, and I have had to resuscitare it twice after lights/doors being left on/open.
Not impressed with the modern RAC markup, but at least it was solved in short order.
Obligatory sea shot, as she wasn't too fussed with Rover 75 in foreground shots:
Unfortunately while at a particularly remote location the car gave some tell-tale 'low battery' noises and would not turn over. Wife called RAC for assessment (as the timing was particularly long for a response), then called me. Fearing I had misfitted the alternator or disturbed slumbering wiring, we performed some checks over the phone. Fortunately everything was in order, and RAC man turned up in decent time to the windswept lighthouse.
Battery death was diagnosed by the RAC. Always doubtful, I asked the wife to read the screen, and their 'tester' showed that the maximum charge the battery could hold was 300 amps, significantly below the 620 printed on the side. I didn't quite see how this problem reared itself only now, after the car had covered perhaps 400 miles since the alternator change, but reasoned if the alternator was decrepit this may be the last paragraph in the battery's obituary after a few months.
While the RAC had a battery in the van, they wanted a rather gouging 149 pounds for it, a hefty 100% over the same Varta item online. Wife is no stranger to fitting easy items and had a small toolit, but she needed to leave the place she was staying that day, and so I couldn't overnight a battery from Tayna. We both grimaced and coughed up, RAC fitted and of course it leapt into life straight away.
Charging figures looked good (as I was worried it was the new alternator killing it), but I will check it again in the coming weeks to be sure. I checked the history and the battery was last changed when we got the car, so almost 6 years and 40k ago, and I have had to resuscitare it twice after lights/doors being left on/open.
Not impressed with the modern RAC markup, but at least it was solved in short order.
Edited by Spinakerr on Tuesday 18th August 09:15
The 75 recently completed a sojourn to the south of Wales, my first proper break since this whole 2020 debacle kicked off, and it performed faultlessly.
Some shots of Wales and Pembrokeshire for context. We lucked out on the sunshine though the sea was a decidedly invigorating 13 degrees each day!
The only maintenance of note was a split rear wiper, Bosch replacement a 10 second fix. These rear plastic arms can be quite fragile at this vintage so extra care is required with the clippity bits.
Its long overdue a good scrub and wax before the weather turns, and the Meyle drop links have arrived, so the agenda for October looks set.
Some shots of Wales and Pembrokeshire for context. We lucked out on the sunshine though the sea was a decidedly invigorating 13 degrees each day!
The only maintenance of note was a split rear wiper, Bosch replacement a 10 second fix. These rear plastic arms can be quite fragile at this vintage so extra care is required with the clippity bits.
Its long overdue a good scrub and wax before the weather turns, and the Meyle drop links have arrived, so the agenda for October looks set.
Spinakerr said:
The 75 recently completed a sojourn to the south of Wales, my first proper break since this whole 2020 debacle kicked off, and it performed faultlessly.
Some shots of Wales and Pembrokeshire for context. We lucked out on the sunshine though the sea was a decidedly invigorating 13 degrees each day!
The only maintenance of note was a split rear wiper, Bosch replacement a 10 second fix. These rear plastic arms can be quite fragile at this vintage so extra care is required with the clippity bits.
Its long overdue a good scrub and wax before the weather turns, and the Meyle drop links have arrived, so the agenda for October looks set.
Lovely Some shots of Wales and Pembrokeshire for context. We lucked out on the sunshine though the sea was a decidedly invigorating 13 degrees each day!
The only maintenance of note was a split rear wiper, Bosch replacement a 10 second fix. These rear plastic arms can be quite fragile at this vintage so extra care is required with the clippity bits.
Its long overdue a good scrub and wax before the weather turns, and the Meyle drop links have arrived, so the agenda for October looks set.
Great way to see the country too I'd say; plenty of comfort
I’d somehow missed this thread (despite keeping up to date with the Saab one). Excellent stuff, although some of those jobs (the alternator especially) look like a right pig.
My in-laws had a 75 tourer that I found for them, which unfortunately suffered HGF (or liner issues) earlier this year. It was always a pleasure to borrow from them and waft around in!
My in-laws had a 75 tourer that I found for them, which unfortunately suffered HGF (or liner issues) earlier this year. It was always a pleasure to borrow from them and waft around in!
Thanks! Cars eh? Who'd have 'em?
The 75 continues to quietly dispatch any task throw at it, though in lockdown the mileage it low and it mainly sits outside waiting to be filled with things or covering short distances for shopping.
Last year a slow puncture was sorted with a good reseating of the tyre on the the alloy by Micheldever, and ever since it keeps going.
Recently used as an excellent defence an snowball repository in our street's snow battle.
Sadly, it appears our time with the 75, 6 long years and over 60k, may be drawing to a close. If anyone has an interest before I post an advert PM me (is this allowed?), otherwise it will be submitted to the Grand Rover Beards at CowleyHenge (the 75andztforum for sale section). I will be extremely sad to see it go - its taken us on two house moved, Euro road trips, lugged inumerable things for all kinds of people and is genuinely the most comfortable, cost efficient and handsome modern car I have ever driven. I've learnt more fixing and improving this car than most, it really is cheap and practical.
A pox on you, London politicians and demonisers of 'old stuff' and the arbitrary ULEZ restrictions. You ruin the planet with hypocrisy and a push to the incurable, unsustainable purchase of 'new stuff' more than this old diesel ever will.
Don't worry though... something is coming to fill its space, and it qualifies for ULEZ....ish...
The 75 continues to quietly dispatch any task throw at it, though in lockdown the mileage it low and it mainly sits outside waiting to be filled with things or covering short distances for shopping.
Last year a slow puncture was sorted with a good reseating of the tyre on the the alloy by Micheldever, and ever since it keeps going.
Recently used as an excellent defence an snowball repository in our street's snow battle.
Sadly, it appears our time with the 75, 6 long years and over 60k, may be drawing to a close. If anyone has an interest before I post an advert PM me (is this allowed?), otherwise it will be submitted to the Grand Rover Beards at CowleyHenge (the 75andztforum for sale section). I will be extremely sad to see it go - its taken us on two house moved, Euro road trips, lugged inumerable things for all kinds of people and is genuinely the most comfortable, cost efficient and handsome modern car I have ever driven. I've learnt more fixing and improving this car than most, it really is cheap and practical.
A pox on you, London politicians and demonisers of 'old stuff' and the arbitrary ULEZ restrictions. You ruin the planet with hypocrisy and a push to the incurable, unsustainable purchase of 'new stuff' more than this old diesel ever will.
Don't worry though... something is coming to fill its space, and it qualifies for ULEZ....ish...
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