Caddy Van VR5 Conversion

Caddy Van VR5 Conversion

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jkh112

22,012 posts

158 months

Thursday 10th May 2018
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Keep it up, it is an interesting build.
What is the rear suspension setup and what are you going to do to it to get some balance with the front coilovers?

Sammo123

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2,103 posts

181 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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jkh112 said:
Keep it up, it is an interesting build.
What is the rear suspension setup and what are you going to do to it to get some balance with the front coilovers?
It's leaf springs on the rear. Once the front end is finished I'll turn it around and take the rear beam off, get it flipped and bolt it back on with shorter shocks. That'll even it out nicely.

Bobberoo99

38,624 posts

98 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Been reading from the start, excellent project, keep it up as I can't wait to see what it turns out like!!!

shalmaneser

5,934 posts

195 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Sammo123 said:
jkh112 said:
Keep it up, it is an interesting build.
What is the rear suspension setup and what are you going to do to it to get some balance with the front coilovers?
It's leaf springs on the rear. Once the front end is finished I'll turn it around and take the rear beam off, get it flipped and bolt it back on with shorter shocks. That'll even it out nicely.
I guess that means it'll be undersprung on the back though? I guess there aren't any turrets at the back so no converting to golf rear end?

Sammo123

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2,103 posts

181 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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Finally got it back on the floor this morning. It wasn't quite as easy as bolting the wheels on like I was imagining. Once I was out there I remembered I needed to fit the gear cables, exhaust heat shield and bleed the front brakes.

With all that done it was time to bolt the wheels on smile



To me the wheels looked quite big when it was in the air. Once it was on the floor they definitely looked better.






Im now waiting for the adapted loom to arrive so I can reattach it to the engine. Once that's done I can slot the engine and gearbox in and get on with that part of the project smile

Sammo123

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2,103 posts

181 months

Saturday 12th May 2018
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Made a couple of purchases today smile

First off is some retro audio! I always wanted one of these when I was 17 but couldn't afford one. I know they're not exactly cutting edge when it comes to sound etc but at the end of the day it's a van! For those of you that haven't seen one before it's a JVC Chameleon. The key pad retracts and you have a completely black and smooth front when it's off. Simple things haha.



My second purchase was a replacement steering wheel. It's from a 6N2 model Polo which is about 2000 onwards. They're a straight fit onto the Caddy and look a hell of a lot better than the original.



Ive bought a couple of other things but I'm not sure if they're going to arrive so I'll hang fire on announcing them.

Sammo123

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2,103 posts

181 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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As some of you will remember from earlier in the thread, I was aiming to have this ready for the RR Weekender (which was today). Due to hurting my neck and everything just taking a bit longer than I expected, it wasn't anywhere near finished in time. I had already booked the Friday and Monday before and after the Weekender off work to recover etc. As the van isn't finished I figured I'd at least use the days to get more done.

On Thursday my adapted wiring loom arrived back smile



I started getting it fitted and quickly realised that a six week gap between removing and refitting a wiring loom is too much. I can't remember exactly how it routes haha.

This bit of routing was simple!



This bit not so much!



Anyway, it was all well under way when I suddenly spotted an issue >biggrin See if you can spot it!



Yes, the pedal box is cracked around the clutch cable mount. It's apparently a weak point and by the looks of things it's not the first time it's gone. It has a rather lacklustre attempt at a previous repair. Anyway, there was no way I was carrying on and leaving it like that so the pedal box needed to come out. That meant dropping the steering column. It actually wasn't as hard as I expected although I'd rather of not had to do it.

Anyway, it's out and I've dropped it off to my old Boss for him to weld it back together. Hopefully he'll have it done by Monday and I can get it fitted and finish putting the interior back in.



Nothing is every as simple as it seems!

jkh112

22,012 posts

158 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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I admire the effort you are putting in. Not so sure on the wheels though.

Sammo123

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2,103 posts

181 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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jkh112 said:
I admire the effort you are putting in. Not so sure on the wheels though.
I'll admit that I'm not sure on the wheels either. I needed 15's to fit over the bigger brakes and these were very cheap. I quite fancy a set of G60 steels to keep the van looking pretty standard but they now qualify for "scene tax!"

Little Pete

1,533 posts

94 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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It might be worth pricing up a new pedal box. I’ve seen a couple of those fail even after they’ve been welded.
Great thread Sammo. Keep up the good work!

Sammo123

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2,103 posts

181 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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Today I got loads done!

I started off routing the engine bay wiring loom. This had all had to come out and be adapted for the new engine. Seeing as there wasn't going to be much room to manoeuvre once the engine was in I figured I should get this done first!





A couple of parts will need to be extended to reach whatever they're meant to be plugged in to and then I can finish wrapping the exposed wires.

Oh, I forgot to mention that the work inspector turned up at this point to make sure I was doing it properly and not cutting any corners! I'm awaiting her results!!!



Once that was done it was time to drag the engine into the open and get it ready to go in smile

The first thing I needed to do was remove the downpipe and exhaust heat shield. The downpipe is completely the wrong shape to fit the van, however I've got one from a Mk3 Golf winging its way to me that is the same fitment and should be a closer fit on the van, or will at least be easier to adapt to fit. Anyway, four of the six nuts came undone nice and easily. The last two snapped the studs frown Annoyingly they were coming undone to begin with and then without any warning just snapped. This meant getting the drill out and drilling the studs out.

I managed to drill out the majority of the first one before needed to resort to the die grinder to get the last of it out.







By the time I got to the second one I had a load of blunt drill bits. I got as far as I could with them and then gave up and cracked the die grinder back out. The second one didn't look as pretty by the time I'd finished with it but it will accept a bolt now which is all I need it to do smile







Once that was sorted I moved on to refitting the engine loom. Thankfully I'd labelled it all up before removing it so it only took a short while to get it refitted smile



Now it was time to lift the engine off the stand where it's been living for the last few months.



I then lowered it onto some blocks of wood and proceeded to fit the clutch and then the VR6 gearbox. As I've mentioned before I do all this by myself with nobody here to help me, so I forgot to take any pictures of this stage. However, it all went on nice and easily and before I knew it I had an engine and gearbox pretty much ready to test fit into the bay. Annoyingly the front engine mount I bought from eBay was the wrong one and wont even entertain the idea of fitting at all so armed with the gearbox mount, the trolley jack and some blocks of wood I decided to go for it anyway!









It fits!!! Just! It's pretty tight in there and I'm definitely going to have to take it out again to move a couple of things, but it fits. I got the gearbox mount done up, propped the front of the engine and 'box with a piece of wood and shoved the trolley jack underneath to steady it. At this point a delivery guy turned up with the V5 engine cover so of course I had to fit it smile



Just as I fitted that the heavens opened so it was time to pack up for the day. I got everything cleared away and closed the bonnet, only to find this!



I'll worry about that another day haha!

Sammo123

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2,103 posts

181 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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The front mount arrived today smile

I was at work this morning and got home to find my Daughter has chicken pox. That means all my plans for the weekend are out the window and I might get some time to do more to the van smile

Watch this space!

Paul S4

1,183 posts

210 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Re the bonnet....just put a power bulge on it ! Just as the old classic MGC had.....





Although maybe not as large as that!
It probably does not require much to get it to close properly.

I had a classic Lotus Elan with a fibre glass bonnet ( whole bodyshell was 'plastic' in fact,) and after I installed a larger radiator the rad cap was touching the underside. After a while with all the heat etc the bonnet eventually moulded itself to the shape....but that was fibreglass !!

jkh112

22,012 posts

158 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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I thought you would keep this as a bit of a sleeper but with the wheels you have (and those you asked about on the other thread) together with a power bulge it is going to be obvious that it may not be standard.

Sammo123

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2,103 posts

181 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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It definitely won't have a power bulge haha. I've been assured that once the front mount is fitted the engine will fit under the bonnet without any modification required.

The wheels that are on it at the moment are just a stop gap. I needed 15's to fit over the bigger brakes and these were the first to appear for next to nothing. I'm keeping an eye out for some G60 steels but they're going for strong money these days.

jkh112

22,012 posts

158 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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A search on eBay for vw 15 inch steel wheels shows plenty for sale, some quite cheap for a full set.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

110 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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I absolutely bloody love this thread!

Sammo123

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2,103 posts

181 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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jkh112 said:
A search on eBay for vw 15 inch steel wheels shows plenty for sale, some quite cheap for a full set.
You'll notice they're almost all 5x100 stud pattern. This is 4x100.

jkh112

22,012 posts

158 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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I see why you having trouble finding wheels.

Sammo123

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2,103 posts

181 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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jkh112 said:
I see why you having trouble finding wheels.
Yep. The moment there's even the slightest hint that it's for a VW the price doubles.