E60 M5, AKA the wallet drainer.
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Welshbeef
This is Readers' Cars, Not NP&E or SP&L. It is generally good form around these parts to only contribute to a thread in order to either congratulate, commiserate or generally help out with the OP and their diary of their automotive journey.
Trying to derail a thread (whether intentional or not) during your usual dunken ranting isn't really what's done here.
To explain it another way, I like to think of each poster's Readers' Cars thread as their property. I wouldn't walk into someone's house shouting the odds whilst ignoring what everyone else was saying, so I don't do it in R'sC.
This is Readers' Cars, Not NP&E or SP&L. It is generally good form around these parts to only contribute to a thread in order to either congratulate, commiserate or generally help out with the OP and their diary of their automotive journey.
Trying to derail a thread (whether intentional or not) during your usual dunken ranting isn't really what's done here.
To explain it another way, I like to think of each poster's Readers' Cars thread as their property. I wouldn't walk into someone's house shouting the odds whilst ignoring what everyone else was saying, so I don't do it in R'sC.
sparks_E46 said:
Crikey if I’m ever in a position to purchase an E60 M5 I think I’ll look at something else! Was the E39 M5 much of a money pit in comparison?
Commiserations OP, I really do hope it’s sorted soon for you and you can at least enjoy the car for a time before moving on. Working in the motor trade I’ve seen all sorts of ongoing issues with difficult vehicles. Perseverance, patience and finding someone reputable that you trust to work on the car are the most important factors. I also know of several run of the mill vehicles that are much younger than your car produce bills that are on par over similar periods of time!
I don’t know where you’re based but I know of an outstanding BMW specialist in Dorset, who genuinely knows these cars backwards and inside out. Happy to put you in touch.
All the best!
The E39 isn't the most reliable either haha. But, it mostly consisted of VANOS issues, which frankly affected most E39 5 series cars anyway. Mr VANOS is the one who helps with this as well. They are reasonably reliable cars, there is a youtube channel called E39Source where a guy has had his E39 M5 for a very long time and high mileage, and it is running sweet. Commiserations OP, I really do hope it’s sorted soon for you and you can at least enjoy the car for a time before moving on. Working in the motor trade I’ve seen all sorts of ongoing issues with difficult vehicles. Perseverance, patience and finding someone reputable that you trust to work on the car are the most important factors. I also know of several run of the mill vehicles that are much younger than your car produce bills that are on par over similar periods of time!
I don’t know where you’re based but I know of an outstanding BMW specialist in Dorset, who genuinely knows these cars backwards and inside out. Happy to put you in touch.
All the best!
Have fond memories of the stupid electronics of the E39 though haha.
TheAngryDog said:
Thing is, I shouldn't need to do that. The company should be getting it booked in to look at it with as little inconvenience to me (consumer advices words).
Re the invoice, i have no t&C's. In fact I have no invoice as I'm still waiting for that as well despite asking for it.
I don't disagree, but the only person who wants their car fixed is you, the garage don't seem to care and you need everything you can to push them along. Re the invoice, i have no t&C's. In fact I have no invoice as I'm still waiting for that as well despite asking for it.
Welshbeef said:
TheAngryDog said:
Thing is, I shouldn't need to do that. The company should be getting it booked in to look at it with as little inconvenience to me (consumer advices words).
Re the invoice, i have no t&C's. In fact I have no invoice as I'm still waiting for that as well despite asking for it.
So right now you have no ohysical evidence that they did any work for you. Clearly a cash transaction but nothing to say what that was or wasn’t for. Re the invoice, i have no t&C's. In fact I have no invoice as I'm still waiting for that as well despite asking for it.
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k that’s even worse. It’s possible the garage doesn’t have he funds to fix the car either.
Are they VaT registered?
Are they a limited co?
Is it a sole trader?
What others cars did that have in when you dropped it off that they were working on?
When you say an Indy do you mean an M Car Indy specialist (in which case it’s likely people on PH might have experience) or just a working out of a lock up garage trader?
Why did you select that garage?
Are you allowed to state the garages name or is that not permitted on PH?
I think for now I will not answer any more questions re the garage etc. I actually like the guy who runs it and would just like it sorting in a way that suits us both. I have no doubt that he knows what he is doing and that this is an unfortunate episode. I am sure it will be sorted in the fullness of time. Until then I'll say no more.
With regards to the Supercharging & weather it's worth it then the only person that can answer that is you, I had an RS4 which was great but it needed more go so I supercharged it.
I am in the trade so paid a fair bit less & also bought it direct from the US, when I sold it I sold it for 10k more than the equivalent standard one at the time.
I didn't recoup my costs (obviously) but I was only 5k shy but I didn't put a price on the conversion because for two & a half years that car put a big smile on my face & the car came alive which for me was worth all of the 5k I didn't make back.
I didn't care about the loss then & don't regret doing it now the last owner of the RS4 took the supercharger/Water Injection/R8 Carbon Ceramic brakes off it & put them on his RS5 so he's getting his money's worth out of it.
If you're going to keep it a while then do it, but this is coming from a guy who can't even leave daily driver standard so you're probably best ignoring me.
I am in the trade so paid a fair bit less & also bought it direct from the US, when I sold it I sold it for 10k more than the equivalent standard one at the time.
I didn't recoup my costs (obviously) but I was only 5k shy but I didn't put a price on the conversion because for two & a half years that car put a big smile on my face & the car came alive which for me was worth all of the 5k I didn't make back.
I didn't care about the loss then & don't regret doing it now the last owner of the RS4 took the supercharger/Water Injection/R8 Carbon Ceramic brakes off it & put them on his RS5 so he's getting his money's worth out of it.
If you're going to keep it a while then do it, but this is coming from a guy who can't even leave daily driver standard so you're probably best ignoring me.
Some years ago the mechanic I use said to me when I was thinking of replacing a working clutch, if it ain't broke don't fix it ,a sentence I've adhered to since that day, I'm really sorry to read of the problems you've had and hope it works out.
I'm always suspicious of reconditioned engines because if they're a fixed price the less components they replace the more profit they make and having been burned with a used engine on a pallet once before I'd only ever buy one i'd seen running
I'm always suspicious of reconditioned engines because if they're a fixed price the less components they replace the more profit they make and having been burned with a used engine on a pallet once before I'd only ever buy one i'd seen running
Thanks guys.
wack said:
Some years ago the mechanic I use said to me when I was thinking of replacing a working clutch, if it ain't broke don't fix it ,a sentence I've adhered to since that day, I'm really sorry to read of the problems you've had and hope it works out.
I'm always suspicious of reconditioned engines because if they're a fixed price the less components they replace the more profit they make and having been burned with a used engine on a pallet once before I'd only ever buy one i'd seen running
The bearings needed doing. Agreed on recon engines, I'd rather not really.I'm always suspicious of reconditioned engines because if they're a fixed price the less components they replace the more profit they make and having been burned with a used engine on a pallet once before I'd only ever buy one i'd seen running
TheAngryDog said:
Thanks guys.
How did you know they needed doing?wack said:
Some years ago the mechanic I use said to me when I was thinking of replacing a working clutch, if it ain't broke don't fix it ,a sentence I've adhered to since that day, I'm really sorry to read of the problems you've had and hope it works out.
I'm always suspicious of reconditioned engines because if they're a fixed price the less components they replace the more profit they make and having been burned with a used engine on a pallet once before I'd only ever buy one i'd seen running
The bearings needed doing. Agreed on recon engines, I'd rather not really.I'm always suspicious of reconditioned engines because if they're a fixed price the less components they replace the more profit they make and having been burned with a used engine on a pallet once before I'd only ever buy one i'd seen running
The ratio of people who've had them done "just in time" to the people who've spun a shell doesn't stack up IMO.
Shaoxter said:
TheAngryDog said:
Thanks guys.
How did you know they needed doing?wack said:
Some years ago the mechanic I use said to me when I was thinking of replacing a working clutch, if it ain't broke don't fix it ,a sentence I've adhered to since that day, I'm really sorry to read of the problems you've had and hope it works out.
I'm always suspicious of reconditioned engines because if they're a fixed price the less components they replace the more profit they make and having been burned with a used engine on a pallet once before I'd only ever buy one i'd seen running
The bearings needed doing. Agreed on recon engines, I'd rather not really.I'm always suspicious of reconditioned engines because if they're a fixed price the less components they replace the more profit they make and having been burned with a used engine on a pallet once before I'd only ever buy one i'd seen running
The ratio of people who've had them done "just in time" to the people who've spun a shell doesn't stack up IMO.
Explain the ratio?
S100HP said:
Welshbeef, shut up! You're clogging up an interesting thread with bull.
It’s because nobody talks to him in the real world, you learn to ignore him after a while, and he goes away.Best of luck OP. Original Company that did the work sound like a right bunch of Welshbeefs !
Edited by Eddieslofart on Thursday 20th September 18:19
Eddieslofart said:
S100HP said:
Welshbeef, shut up! You're clogging up an interesting thread with bull.
It’s because nobody talks to him in the real world, you learn to ignore him after a while, and he goes away.Best of luck OP. Original Company that did the work sound like a right bunch of Welshbeefs !
Edited by Eddieslofart on Thursday 20th September 18:19
. I’ve been here over a decade already Not sure why you are so concerned about Welshbeef when all everyone is suggesting is to go hard against the garage to ensure rectification works happen ASAP - though it appears to be very difficult which likely means legal action is required. The world isn’t all rose tinted and sadly OP has been hit I hope the commments here (even if he doesn’t like he delivery or frankness if it gets the result that’s all that matters).
Welshbeef said:
MikeGoodwin said:
Just need Yipper to complete the circus.
Sorry to hear your woes OP. Nightmare.
Is this what you mean?Sorry to hear your woes OP. Nightmare.
yipper
small, loud, annoying dog. AKA food for larger animals.
could somebody please feed that yipper to a snake?
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