CL7 Accord Euro R (Very pic heavy)

CL7 Accord Euro R (Very pic heavy)

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Kewy

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1,462 posts

95 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Striple said:
I noticed that on mine. It took me a while to mentally get over the creases the kiddy seat makes on the back seat bench!
It dawned on me immediately when fitting that it wasn't a good exercise for my OCD eek Oh well, can't have an interesting daily and not strap the kids in it!

On the plus side, new rubber on all four corners today!




Integroo

11,574 posts

86 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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I do like these. There is one for sale at Torque GT at the moment that looks very nice for the money.

Kewy

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1,462 posts

95 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Time for a quick little update whilst I have my morning cuppa smile

Going to back track a little bit here as I've jumped ahead a bit with the last couple of posts. Firstly though a quick apology for the lack of content from the Euro R Euro Tour back in May. Count down to baby didn't really allow for much time tinkering with photos and its not much easier now he's here! That being said, it's still on my to-do list and I am slowly posting shots to my Instagram. I do still intend to do a thread dedicated to the trip too.

Back to the car though. last proper update was shortly after JDM Combe where I cooked my brakes and finished off my tyres. Shortly after Combe I ordered some PBS pads and a fresh set of Mtec discs.


Old pads were pretty fked!


As were the sliders, so I ordered up a fresh set of those too.


MmmmmmmmmmmTec.


It literally took about 3 hours to get one of the sliders out it was so badly seized up, the cheer when that last bang of the hammer saw the slider drop to the floor was enough to wake the whole neighbourhood I think.


Awful pic, it was getting late! But fresh sliders greased up and fitted.

Didn't actually take a photo of it all put back together, but eventually we got there. Went for a test run. Immediately it felt like the brakes were biting at just the slightest push of the pedal, once bed in they eased up a bit and are a bit less 'bitey' but you no longer have to stamp on the pedal to get the car to stop like I used to with the old pads.

A couple of weeks later I saw another easy opportunity to get out on track in the form of Summer Action Day (again at Combe), given that I'd refreshed the brakes I thought it would be a good way to see what difference it made. Tickets were booked and this time I got two track sessions. Checked my phone and this is the only photo I took at Summer Action Day rolleyes:


Open top vintage bus ride around Castle Combe circuit hehe

But the brakes performed well, both sessions I saw little to no fade and for once I could have kept on lapping the circuit when the chequered flag was waved (normally my brakes are shot to pieces after 20 mins). However the ABS light still came on after a while so I'm presuming thats a sensor fault as opposed to the brakes overheating? Need to get that checked out.

One job done, and with Combe out the way, the next job on my list was another refurb of the headlights – I'd had them done a year or so prior but my lack of regular protection had meant the corrosion had returned and they were once again yellow and hazey. I'd read that Autosol did a good job at bringing some life back into them and had a tube in the boot of the car so to save the pain of wet sanding I decided to give it a go.


Before.


During.


After.

Really happy with the result for a quick half hour job. At least they look clear again. I started with Autosol and then just finished off with an old bottle of bog standard car polish I had lying around. Finally coated them with some Big Whites high temp wax – and this time I'll make sure to slap a coat of wax on them with each wash!

With the new AD08s on there that I posted about recently, that pretty much brings us up to the present day. The better half bought me a full track day at Snetterton for my birthday, so a bunch of us are going up there in a couple of weeks which will be fun, will be sure to report back with my findings biggrin

Oh and these turned up yesterday…


What do we have here then…

mk2glenn

18 posts

57 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Thats a lovely example. It's odd that these are so uncommon in the UK. They're a common sight here in Ireland and the lower end of the market starts around €4000 for them, with better examples selling for around €6500

Heres one I had last year


One of the best all round cars you can buy. Pretty easy to get up to around 240bhp aswell.

Kewy

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1,462 posts

95 months

Saturday 28th September 2019
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mk2glenn said:
Thats a lovely example. It's odd that these are so uncommon in the UK. They're a common sight here in Ireland and the lower end of the market starts around €4000 for them, with better examples selling for around €6500

Heres one I had last year

One of the best all round cars you can buy. Pretty easy to get up to around 240bhp aswell.
Cheers mate. Yeh I noticed when I was looking at mine that there was a fairly big scene in Ireland and that they were considerable cheaper. What sort of cost you looking to export to England and register etc?

Looks great in blue! Agree with it being a great all rounder, such a split personality smile

Kewy

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95 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Right time for an update. Kick off where we left off – end of August with a track day at Snetterton booked in September. Fair bit of goings-ons has happened since then.

The last photo I posted was of a set of Cusco coilovers I'd got hold of. I wasn't planning on any more suspension changes just yet to be honest. What I had put some money aside for, and managed to source after months of looking was a set of perfect spec Regamasters. Unfortunately after weeks of anticipation the wheels fell through and I found myself with some already assigned 'car money' burning a hole in my pocket.

Around the same time, someone I know through the Accord groups was breaking his turbo'd CL7, had the Cusco set that had only been on the car for a few thousand miles and offered them to me for less than a third of what they cost brand new. Ohhhh ffs go on then!


Here's the full kit. Cusco Street Zero A 12/7kg spring rates fitted and a spare set of 14/8kg, also the full Econ2 electric damping kit.

The race was now on to get these fitted before Snetterton. I probably should have just waited but there was 10 days until the track day and I couldn't resist. I wanted to give the car a service anyway and a couple of pals who have a unit nearby offered the space and help to get them fitted.


First things first, full service with laser iridiums, some fresh 5w40 and hamp filter. Forgive the dirty bay and flakey rocker cover!



Owe these chaps big time. Absolute top bunch of lads.


They have some nice motors too.


Mmmmmmm shiny.


Motors fitted to the tops of the shocks. The rear top mounts on the Accord are hidden behind the bolsters of the back seats. Meant it was easy to run the wiring straight up the C pillar, behind the roof lining and down to the front footwell. Here the control module sits and is wired through the firewall to the front shocks. Got a mate to do the wiring to power which all happens behind the stereo.


Annnnd after what felt like hours of tinkering with ride height on each corner, it's back on the ground.

First drive was an interesting one, first thing I noticed was that it was noticeably softer than the oem shock/Eibach springs setup I was running prior to the change. Not what I had expected at all. The dampers have 40 settings, I started with them set on 20/20 just to see what middle ground felt like. it didn't take many corners/bumps in the road to tell that despite feeling very comfortable, there was a reasonable amount of scrubbing going on, and despite stiffening up the shocks (at least we thought we were, however it turns out that setting 40 is actually the softest!), the scrubbing wasn't going anywhere.

Luckily I had a couple of options:
• Remove the 20mm spacers all round and hope it clears the arches (I don't think this would have cured it completely).
• Finally fit some adjustable camber arms and run a bit more negative camber (Again this was questionable)
• Raise the car
• Fit the stiffer springs that came with the Cuscos

Can you guess which two I went for? rolleyes

The following week, with only two days until our track day, all four shocks came out the car again, springs were swapped and refitted into the car. In the meantime I had some how managed to source a set of Hardrace front camber arms, and some Ingalls rear lateral and camber arms, both second hand but in fantastic condiditon.


Hardrace adjustable front camber arms.


Ingalls adjustable rear arms.

I forgot to take any photos of the second suspension fitting session as time was of the essence, we'd also noticed a crack in my rear discs so I got a fresh set of Mtec grooved discs and chucked some PBS pads in the back to match the front. With the light dimming and the unit getting cold, we finished up the evening by trying to get the camber and toe roughly okay to drive it home. I had alignment booked in the following day so it just had to get me 10 miles down the road.

I didn't even have time to test drive it to check the scrubbing before we all shut the unit up and headed home for the evening. First thing I noticed when I drove down the lane from the unit was the familiar firmness I was used to from the old setup. It immediately felt stiffer and the steering response was much improved, even if the car was trying to kill me where our alignment-by-eye was not quite up to scratch....

Importantly, I took the 'scenic' route home which involved some amazingly twisty roads that are unfortunately pretty average due to their surface. Perfect test to see if the scrubbing had been cured. One particular part of this road involves a big dip, that has a second quite sinister dip at the bottom and always catches my by surprise, today was no different and I dropped down into the dip a bit faster than was comfortable, held my breath… no scrub! That one bit of road alone was enough to tell me what I needed to know. With a sigh of relief I headed home happy that so long as alignment went well tomorrow then the track day was looking promising.

(Will write up the second part of this instalment later on, they just get too long otherwise!)

Court_S

12,997 posts

178 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Kewy said:
The best reason to get out of bed early on a Sunday. by Sam Kew, on Flickr

Just dropping in with a recent photo. Foggy morning drive a couple of Sundays ago.
That’s a bloody cracking photo. Love it.

Really enjoyed reading the whole thread. Quick Japanese cars aren’t usually my thing, but that looks really rather lovely. Need more shots of those lovely seats though.

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Any updates Sam? This car is a cracker and isn't helping my lust for one!

Edited by TheAngryDog on Sunday 29th December 18:13

Lollypops

104 posts

76 months

Tuesday 31st December 2019
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Do these run ok on 97 octane super unleaded or do they need 99 octane?

Mark-t

296 posts

204 months

Tuesday 31st December 2019
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Lollypops said:
Do these run ok on 97 octane super unleaded or do they need 99 octane?
As a current owner of another Japanese imported Honda, they ideally need 99 ron due to being tuned for 101 Ron in Japan - UK K20 engines are lower compression than the JDM variants to deal with UK fuel.
I've been occasionally caught out and stuck a tenner of 95 in but I tend to avoid enthusiastic driving until its gone.

Kewy

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1,462 posts

95 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Court_S said:
That’s a bloody cracking photo. Love it.

Really enjoyed reading the whole thread. Quick Japanese cars aren’t usually my thing, but that looks really rather lovely. Need more shots of those lovely seats though.
Thanks mate. I'll endeavour to get a few more interior shots on the thread smile



TheAngryDog said:
Any updates Sam? This car is a cracker and isn't helping my lust for one!

Edited by TheAngryDog on Sunday 29th December 18:13
Plenty to write about just not enough time to do it! I need to write up the Snetterton track day, and also have endless videos and photos from the Alps trip back in May.

The good news is that today was my last day at work for 6 months as I'm taking some paternity leave to become a stay at home dad. So hopefully find time in between chasing the little man around to update the thread a bit more smile



Lollypops said:
Do these run ok on 97 octane super unleaded or do they need 99 octane?
As above, I only ever run on V Power or Momentum, so wouldn't like to say.

Sunder81

15 posts

61 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Hi Kewy and other members, any advice and what to check for pre purchase, hoping to get a blue CL7 with TGT. https://www.torque-gt.co.uk/euro-r-231219.html.

Advice appreciated

Kewy

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1,462 posts

95 months

Friday 3rd April 2020
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Sunder81 said:
Hi Kewy and other members, any advice and what to check for pre purchase, hoping to get a blue CL7 with TGT. https://www.torque-gt.co.uk/euro-r-231219.html.

Advice appreciated
Sorry for the delay mate I've been a bit rubbish with this thread this year! Just checking in now to see where I got to so I can do some updates.

Did you end up buying a CL7? Still need advice?

Superleg48

1,524 posts

134 months

Friday 3rd April 2020
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Just read through this thread from start to finish for the first time. Thoroughly enjoyable thread and love how the car has evolved from when you first got it. The fact that you are not afraid to go anywhere and do anything with it is big thumbs up, since the very point of such a car is to get the most out of it and not just look at it.

Really good job. smile


danllama

5,728 posts

143 months

Friday 3rd April 2020
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Whats your insta?

Kewy

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95 months

Friday 3rd April 2020
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Superleg48 said:
Just read through this thread from start to finish for the first time. Thoroughly enjoyable thread and love how the car has evolved from when you first got it. The fact that you are not afraid to go anywhere and do anything with it is big thumbs up, since the very point of such a car is to get the most out of it and not just look at it.

Really good job. smile
Thanks! You'll be pleased to hear I'm currently sat with a rum, rummaging through pictures and typing up the next post, so at least unlike anyone else who's reading you wont have to wait too long for an update biggrin


danllama said:
Whats your insta?
I'm not sure if this is a piss take or not because of the amount of times I've plugged it in this thread biglaugh

But might as well plug it again, it's @skewy wink

If you search for #euroreurotrip on Instagram you can see the stuff I've posted from the Euro trip so far.

Kewy

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1,462 posts

95 months

Saturday 4th April 2020
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Right then, apologies for the absence! Life has kind of been a bit crazy since the little dude was born. Then Christmas and then before you know it 6 months has passed and we’re not allowed to leave the house.

I’m actually on parental leave with the boy and this is supposed to be my time to be going on road trips and hikes and showing him the world, time that I’ll never get back. So the past few weeks have been consumed by entertaining a 12 year old and an 8 month old, without leaving the house much… grrrr…

Anyway in between meal times, tantrums and naps I’m gonna try and get back on top of this thread.

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Last update I ran over a lot of suspension changes, finally got the Cusco coilovers fitted and thanks to some adjustable camber arms front and rear I no longer had problems with scrubbing. So just an alignment needed and then a track day at Snetterton!

The drive down the motorway to The Wheel Alignment Centre in Southampton was interesting… it would appear that our ‘align by eye’ (and a couple of blocks of wood) method the previous evening resulted in a car the quite literally wanted to kill me, I fought with it the whole 13 miles down the M27. There was no chance I was taking it anywhere else though, Nick is the man and he’s gets his reputation for a reason.


Only photo I have from alignment day, safe to say this may be why the car was trying to kill me on the way up? Front was just as bad. Finished up with 2 degrees camber up front and 1 degree camber on the rears.

So that brings us to the Snetterton track day that I’ve been banging on about and waiting to spam a load of photos from. The track day was on the Tuesday but we made the sensible choice of booking a hotel the night before given that Snetterton is a 3 and a half hour drive from us.


Quick fuel stop on the way up. Never gets old seeing these three JDM K20A motors in the same place.


Safely arrived at our stop for the night and met with another friend in the DC2 who had left earlier in the day.




Few pit lane shots. Love the one with the Caterham sticking it’s nose out.




Some track action. I have a whole album of shots of the Accord on track that I purchased after the day, just haven't got round to processing many of the shots. Will happily post some more if people want to see more photos of it on track (I feel like sometimes track photos are all a bit samey).


And if they couldn’t get any better, they all did a full day on the racetrack and then drove us nearly 200 miles home without skipping a beat.

So I spun the car twice rotate Hadn’t spun a car before so good to get that first (and second) out the way. In my defence the first time I presume someone had spilt oil on track as another couple of cars spun on immediately after me on the same corner, and soon after there was sand all down. Second time was purely driver error biggrin Hesitated going into Riches too fast and dabbed the brakes at 90mph, next thing I know we’re going sideways at 90mph… I just froze, not quite ballsy enough to try some opposite lock and floor it at that speed and thankfully the car just screeched steadily to a stop and rolled onto the grass.

Infact you can see it here: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2SX5GDpyCw

And if anyone is interested, here is a bit of footage from when it did stay on track: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2ZSxBxpGIH

I should probably add that I’m a complete track day novice, so I welcome critique! But I couldn’t be happier with how the car performed all day and how far it had come in terms of handling and braking from previous track time at Combe. It finally felt like all the hard work (and dents to the bank balance) had come together and paid off. I had a grin on my face all day. The great thing about this car as that its really quite easy to keep it on the limit (probably more like my limit), and feel what the car is doing. Loss of grip is very progressive and the new coilovers seemed to work wonders for correction, slight lift off and you could feel the rear end lighten up and swing round then foot to the floor and the diff would pull you round the corner.

Braking has also been a problem previously, I think they died after about 6 laps of Combe last time! But I’m pleased to say that that lasted all day, not once did I notice any significant fade. A ride in my mates EP3 running Stoptech BBK did make me realise that I could do with something that would stop me a bit quicker at some point, but these are more than sufficient for now.

I do plan on watching through and uploading some more footage from the day on to my Youtube in the next few days, so if I get round to it then I’ll post the link on here.

danllama

5,728 posts

143 months

Saturday 4th April 2020
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Kewy said:
I'm not sure if this is a piss take or not because of the amount of times I've plugged it in this thread biglaugh

But might as well plug it again, it's @skewy wink

If you search for #euroreurotrip on Instagram you can see the stuff I've posted from the Euro trip so far.
I'm a busy man biggrin

Kewy

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95 months

Saturday 4th April 2020
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danllama said:
I'm a busy man biggrin
And yet you've made it to page 8 of this thread laugh

Kewy

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95 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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Two updates in a week, sign of the times… coffee

Will be good to get this thread caught up actually, then I can try and actually keep on top of it. So the Snett track day went well, car went back to daily duties and winter was upon us so nothing too exciting going on really. I did have a bit of knocking the week following the track day, turned out to be one of the Ingall's rear camber arms fitted the wrong way round, turns out one end is ever so slightly bigger than the other and with the small end in the big space it left room to knock back and forth. Strange that it wasn't knocking before the track day, but there we go. I spun it round, done them all up nice and tight and haven't had the knocking since.

Moving on, we got a bit bored up the unit and decided to have a play around with wheels:


Here's my friends 17x8 +35 Rays CE28Ns on the front of my car. We took my front spacers off to do this test so was good to see what the fitment was like.

I've always been a sucker for a set of CE28s, definitely a wheel I'd like to own one day. On the subject of wheels, I have some exciting (at least to me!) news on that front which has happened recently. I'll get to that later on…
It's not a set of CE28s rolleyes

Also on the subject of wheels, I ended up selling the FD2 stock rims that had been sat in my shed for a while. It helped refresh my bank after buying the coilovers and all the camber arms, and to be honest I wasn't a huge fan of the feel of the 18s on this car, so doubt I'd have ever run them again. Was sad to see them go as they're no exactly easy to come by, but I must say I approve of the new owner:


White and the blue looks so good! Must admit I started to regret agreeing to sell them once we dropped the car down after fitting and I saw how good they looked.


Flashback to when they were on the Euro.

Next job was something I'd been meaning to do for a while, but couldn't bring myself to pay what Honda are asking for the parts, especially when it made no actual difference to how the car performed. An opportunity to buy an unused set from a chap who had never got round to fitting them to his car was the perfect opportunity for a badge refresh:


Usual dental floss behind the existing badge method left rather a lot of residue this time round... I guess I'd not debadged a car of this age before come to think of it.


Cleaned up and new badge fitted. Didn't get a comparison photo unfortunately. The old badge wasn't in bad nick but the red 'R' had faded a lot.


Front badge was way overdue a refresh!


Shame I didn't clean all the muck off the red H badge before taking this photo, but you get the idea.