Sauber C30 / Heritage HF1-018. Warning: F1 Car Content :)
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Yes for the past few weeks I've been working out how to convert an F1 car to hand controls without any input from the guy who will drive it as this was planned as a surprise. I love a challenge 
Great day, car ran well, Billy did an amazing job with genuine pace and the Sky F1 Austria coverage this weekend will include the story of Billys first F1 drive. As a business it's a great pleasure that TDF can help guys like Heritage F1 do this sort of thing, we're all very proud of what Billy and the teams of people involved achieved today. Hopefully it will be the first run of many for him in this car.
Great day, car ran well, Billy did an amazing job with genuine pace and the Sky F1 Austria coverage this weekend will include the story of Billys first F1 drive. As a business it's a great pleasure that TDF can help guys like Heritage F1 do this sort of thing, we're all very proud of what Billy and the teams of people involved achieved today. Hopefully it will be the first run of many for him in this car.
Edited by poppopbangbang on Tuesday 26th June 21:01
Onboard video of Billy driving the car: https://www.facebook.com/racelogic/videos/10156151...
Slartibartfast-The-Second said:
Onboard video of Billy driving the car: https://www.facebook.com/racelogic/videos/10156151...
Great video. Must be bloody hard doing it all by hand. I love how after the outlap he just pins it on the banked corner.Looks as though it was rev limited in 5th - was that a Rockingham/on the day/hand-controls specific thing? I thought from my fat-fingered counting on the vid from the opening post it was a six-speeder at least and capable of 150+ easily.
Smitters said:
Great video. Must be bloody hard doing it all by hand. I love how after the outlap he just pins it on the banked corner.
Looks as though it was rev limited in 5th - was that a Rockingham/on the day/hand-controls specific thing? I thought from my fat-fingered counting on the vid from the opening post it was a six-speeder at least and capable of 150+ easily.
This was essentially a test and we are still validating the fail safes etc. on the hand controls. As it was a surprise for Billy we obviously couldn't do any testing before hand so things like seat position, brake pedal position etc. which for him are significantly different were best guess and as such not perfect. The point of the day was to see if he could fit in it comfortably and drive it, to rock up and find the limiters on your first lap is bloody impressive for anyone - he genuinely blew us away with his ability out the box. Looks as though it was rev limited in 5th - was that a Rockingham/on the day/hand-controls specific thing? I thought from my fat-fingered counting on the vid from the opening post it was a six-speeder at least and capable of 150+ easily.
He's f
king astonishing. Came back after his accident, first race, stuck it on the podium. I heard him interviewed on the radio and he's an erudite, intelligent and humble chap.
Edit: removed the last line in case it came across as horrendously insensitive
king astonishing. Came back after his accident, first race, stuck it on the podium. I heard him interviewed on the radio and he's an erudite, intelligent and humble chap.Edit: removed the last line in case it came across as horrendously insensitive
Edited by Usget on Wednesday 27th June 16:00
andburg said:
Just seen this on the skyf1 show.
Great work, are you able to show us what had to be done to the car to allow billy to drive?
Yes. The throttle was moved to the steering wheel via re purposing one of the original FBW clutch paddles to become a throttle. We intercepted the CAN from the wheel for CP1 and fed this to a Race Logic CAN to Analogue Module which in turn created the two 0.5V-4.5V signals we needed to pass to the ECU for engine torque request. We added some fail safe in terms of error detection for stuck paddle, constant zero, missing earth, missing power supply etc. and also some additional for CAN and module depower etc. so that the engine ECU would create a FBW fail safe state should any of these go out of acceptable ranges. Finally we had some brake pressure and clutch position vs throttle position validation in place so if the brake pressure was above a certain amount or the clutch was open beyond a certain amount the ECU would create an appropriate engine torque reduction. Great work, are you able to show us what had to be done to the car to allow billy to drive?
We made a few paddle options for Bill:
So he was able to pick on the day what the best option for him was.
With regards brakes we made a pedal box mounting plate which picked up on the original multiple position option box mounting holes in the tub and moved the original pedal box forward. We designed and made a new brake pedal and pedal pad to suit Bills unique requirements and provide some adjust-ability on the day for him. This used large diameter hex bar push rods to connect to the original bulk head mounted master cylinders.
Finally we reworked the FBW clutch engagement points and paddle linearisation to provide more resolution around the bite for easier pull away at the expense of outright launch aggression and recalibrated the ECU to create more base torque and idle speed so the car could pull away at zero throttle paddle position or there abouts.
We were all very pleased he was able to drive it on the day as well as he could. This kind of driver interface is really a very unique individual to individual thing so being able to get this close out the box was a mega nod to our abilities really
Just came across this thread.
Brilliant project.
I saw this car running at Zolder end of May (I'm the chief doctor for the Zolder racetrack) but didn't realise this was a project you were involved in PPBB.
Next time you're coming to Zolder, send me a message. I really liked your threads about the other F1 projects you were doing and would love to have a close look at this car.
By the way: 1min13sec will not give you the Zolder track record. Currently stands at 1min12.821 (S. Bourdais, ChampCar). Just turn up the boost a little more
Brilliant project.
I saw this car running at Zolder end of May (I'm the chief doctor for the Zolder racetrack) but didn't realise this was a project you were involved in PPBB.
Next time you're coming to Zolder, send me a message. I really liked your threads about the other F1 projects you were doing and would love to have a close look at this car.
By the way: 1min13sec will not give you the Zolder track record. Currently stands at 1min12.821 (S. Bourdais, ChampCar). Just turn up the boost a little more
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