Blasphemy or beauty?

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AdamTDSC

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Monday 20th August 2018
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cb1965 said:
Great project and ignore any naysayers... your car, do with it was you wish. Following with interest.
Thanks it all makes perfect sense to me I’m glad other people can understand what I’m doing at this stage because I know when it’s altogether people will get it

AdamTDSC

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Monday 20th August 2018
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ClaphamGT3 said:
So long as it's a well executed and coherent plan to create the car you want, fill your boots.

I wouldn't have done what you have myself - I would be too taken by the 'last of the nieuw-classe line' story - but I admire your engineering skill to do it.

What would have been a travesty would be an ill thought-through, badly executed lash-up based on whatever was lying around the workshop
I totally agree with this! The reason I picked the car I did was it being a 1502 with no waist chrome and it was very rusty. I feel doing this to a clean Tii wouldn’t have been something I would have wanted to do!

AdamTDSC

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Monday 20th August 2018
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Lazermilk said:
Love it thumbup
Thanks much appreciated!

I will be uploading a video soon with some clips of the car

AdamTDSC

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Thursday 23rd August 2018
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A bit of visual and explanation of what’s going on.

https://youtu.be/mt8n4dfHIyo

AdamTDSC

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Thursday 30th August 2018
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A bit of visual and explanation of what’s going on.

https://youtu.be/mt8n4dfHIyo

AdamTDSC

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Friday 31st August 2018
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carinaman said:
The video explanation was good. Your car and your money so your choice. I look forward to seeing the video of the finished article.
Thanks I will be updating the build with videos as it progresses!

AdamTDSC

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Friday 31st August 2018
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Escy said:
Did you ever consider the E46 320si engine?
I did yes it is a great piece but pretty rare and difficult for parts!

AdamTDSC

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Sunday 2nd September 2018
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I really did want to make the m42 work but it would have been extremely expensive to engineer it to the S42 spec and less reliable and useable than the K.

I think maybe in cool factor it would have won though. My main issue with that Engine was clearance for a proper exhaust due to the steering box... which I later removed

AdamTDSC

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Thursday 6th September 2018
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Formula 3 rear wing.. eBay is sometimes the worst and best thing!
If you think this is a terrible idea be patient it will work trust me!

AdamTDSC

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Friday 7th September 2018
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The 1502 to me is a good looking car. Many people love the chrome waistline but personally I prefer it without. It’s a good base to build from!

A lot of cars from the period were developing aerodynamics and were exaggerated with big arches and wings splitters etc.. the kit I have fits with that making the car significantly wider! I will make the wing and if I feel it doesn’t work remove it but with the race livery and body I’m sure it will work

I understand the whole sleeper thing being cool but I’m already way beyond that and it cannot be disguised

Eg...



AdamTDSC

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Friday 7th September 2018
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You completely hit the nail on the head!
biglaugh

AdamTDSC

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Friday 7th September 2018
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Thanks everyone!

I’m glad people appreciate how much work something like this is!

AdamTDSC

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Saturday 15th September 2018
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A quick sketch for an idea I’m going to be preparing parts for powder coating tomorrow so that will be something nice and fresh coming soon!
Not sure why the images rotate as they don’t display like that on my phone...



Edited by AdamTDSC on Saturday 15th September 22:53

AdamTDSC

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Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Thanks yeah I’ve looked at both options. I will make the oil sump work either way as I don’t want to modify the rare front subframe ideally. I like the kMiata option if it will fit!

AdamTDSC

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Thursday 20th September 2018
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d_a_n1979 said:
Beauty, absolutely!

The K20 is probably about the best 4 pot engine and most tunable you could use really wink

Are you going fork KPro or AEM tuning (or similar)? If I missed that bit, sorry
Thanks!

The plan is K Pro v4 with jenvey 45mm ITBs, JDM cams and a decent exhaust setup. If I’m correct with calcs on the runner length etc it should peak power nicely at 9k

AdamTDSC

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Sunday 23rd September 2018
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d_a_n1979 said:
AdamTDSC said:
Thanks!

The plan is K Pro v4 with jenvey 45mm ITBs, JDM cams and a decent exhaust setup. If I’m correct with calcs on the runner length etc it should peak power nicely at 9k
Sounds about right smile

I had a similar set up in an EG6 SiR-S years back; but used OBX TBs at that time; good, but not the best and couldn't afford Toda ones. I was running the JDM cams also, but a Spoon ECU which again, was only ok

The car got written off about 3 weeks later whilst I was elsewhere; a lorry reversed into it and pancaked the front end! 44t vs a small EG6 is never going to end well!
That’s a real shame sorry to hear that!

Any idea what power it made with that setup? I did look at Toda too but I like Jenvey and they came up so it was perfect

AdamTDSC

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Tuesday 25th September 2018
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d_a_n1979 said:
AdamTDSC said:
That’s a real shame sorry to hear that!

Any idea what power it made with that setup? I did look at Toda too but I like Jenvey and they came up so it was perfect
IIRC about 250; but it wasn't mapped very well. The Spoon ECU was bit of a mare, so really don't know how genuine the BHP was

Im was talking to the guys at CPL re Hondata then to get that moving; but it was flattened before I got moving properly. Just the way it goes at times...

TODA are about as good as they get IMO; but you pay for them through the nose too!
My fear with TODA was support and spares where jenvey are U.K. based and have many years of development in ITB and Carb setups so it seemed to make sense!

AdamTDSC

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Wednesday 26th September 2018
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chrismc1977 said:
K20 is a sensible 4 pot choice...

In my experience the F20C (listed as 237hp? for the S2K) rarely makes that power as standard. Closer to 220 (allowing for dyno lottery of course!)

Used to drive these delivering them as demonstrators for Honda & great fun but didn’t feel like ~240hp if I’m honest..
Thanks! The beauty of this is it should be around 300-350kg lighter than the s2000 and geared nicely. Obviously the driving dynamic will be completely different but 240hp in this should be pretty nuts

AdamTDSC

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Wednesday 26th September 2018
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sleepera6 said:
Bucket seats, stripped interior and a racing straight cut gearbox is all what needs now.... wink
The interior is long gone to make room for the cage however the dash will go back in retrimmed in alcantara. Maybe lightweight carpet and of course bucket seats!

AdamTDSC

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Saturday 13th October 2018
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Plodding along grinding welds (and my finger)

Updates coming soon