Renault Avantime - Dear god what have I done.

Renault Avantime - Dear god what have I done.

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V8 Animal

5,923 posts

210 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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There’s one in the IoM Motor Museum

HTP99

22,552 posts

140 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Not sure if he still has them but a customer of ours just down the road from our sister dealership, had both the very first UK Avantime and the very last one, one was Illiad blue and the other was the bright green (can't remember the name).

NDNDNDND

2,022 posts

183 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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A mate of mine has a V6 auto one of these. Not my kind of car but I'm quite fond of it. I've driven it about a little bit and it feels like driving a spaceship! Very glassy and comfy. Crazy, double-hinged doors. Massive boot. Inexplicably cramped back seats...

I reckon an Avantime would be a good basis for an electric conversion.

rix

2,781 posts

190 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Always had a sof spot for these. Follow a owners group on FB where this one was advertised and was very tempted myself. The original wheels (or more accurately the centre caps) is a rare find!

S100HP

12,678 posts

167 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Great purchase. Was watching these before I purchased a shonky Impreza....hmmm...I think I need to have a word with myself.

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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S100HP said:
Great purchase. Was watching these before I purchased a shonky Impreza....hmmm...I think I need to have a word with myself.
Has the Impreza sold yet?

At least the Avantime is a Matra plastic creation.

irocfan

40,452 posts

190 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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despite my dislike of most things practical I do find myself looking at these on occasion. Lovely

HTP99

22,552 posts

140 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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irocfan said:
despite my dislike of most things practical I do find myself looking at these on occasion. Lovely
They aren't that practical, despite their size they are quite tight in the back, reasonable boot though.

Steve421

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42 posts

69 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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irocfan said:
despite my dislike of most things practical I do find myself looking at these on occasion. Lovely
The odd thing is it really isn't practical at all. Renault effectively took the very practical Espace and said "You know what? Why don't we remove 3 seats and 2 doors and yet keep it the same size as as a small African country." It does have a big boot though.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,370 posts

150 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Hitch said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm so unlucky, if I bought a Renault Avantime, I'd probably write it off in a head on collision with a Vel Satis.
Technically impossible. You'd have to find one of each in working order to do so! Or maybe that's your point...
My point was you never see either these days.

If the OP is out in his car, and sees a Bugatti Veyron, if he goes on the Bugatti owners club forum that evening, he'll see the owner boasting that he actually saw an Aventime!

HTP99

22,552 posts

140 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Steve421 said:
irocfan said:
despite my dislike of most things practical I do find myself looking at these on occasion. Lovely
The odd thing is it really isn't practical at all. Renault effectively took the very practical Espace and said "You know what? Why don't we remove 3 seats and 2 doors and yet keep it the same size as as a small African country." It does have a big boot though.
It was actually Matra's idea and creation.

Matra designed and manufactured the Espace for Renault, however Espace IV was entirely Renault's design which they also built, thus Matra came up with the Avantime which was based in Espace III, it was built on the same production line as Espace III.

Dr G

15,175 posts

242 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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shalmaneser said:
So the error is to do with the accelerator pedal, but the car has recently had a new throttle body?
Really not as far fetched as you think.

A fault code does not neccesarily tell you what's wrong, it tells you what the ECU can (or cannot) see.

An engine running badly may have duff fuel injectors but the ECU not recognise the issue until the O2 sensor reports a problem. In this case, replacing the O2 sensor to alleviate an issue with a faulty injector would be silly.

Steve421

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42 posts

69 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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HTP99 said:
Steve421 said:
irocfan said:
despite my dislike of most things practical I do find myself looking at these on occasion. Lovely
The odd thing is it really isn't practical at all. Renault effectively took the very practical Espace and said "You know what? Why don't we remove 3 seats and 2 doors and yet keep it the same size as as a small African country." It does have a big boot though.
It was actually Matra's idea and creation.

Matra designed and manufactured the Espace for Renault, however Espace IV was entirely Renault's design which they also built, thus Matra came up with the Avantime which was based in Espace III, it was built on the same production line as Espace III.
I know smile Just saved going into detail really. What a swan song for Matra though! If only Renault had decided to keep the Espace clad in GRP rather than switch to steel, they may still be with us as a car manufacturer.

Steve421

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42 posts

69 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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And it's all sorted! Turns out the replacement throttle body handn't been "coded" to the car via Renault diagnostics. I thought this car would have been too old to be caught in the trap of coded ancillary parts, but there you go! Currently still in the garage having a once over, but we're looking like we're in business.

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Good result!

Abbott

2,391 posts

203 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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HTP99 said:
Steve421 said:
irocfan said:
despite my dislike of most things practical I do find myself looking at these on occasion. Lovely
The odd thing is it really isn't practical at all. Renault effectively took the very practical Espace and said "You know what? Why don't we remove 3 seats and 2 doors and yet keep it the same size as as a small African country." It does have a big boot though.
It was actually Matra's idea and creation.

Matra designed and manufactured the Espace for Renault, however Espace IV was entirely Renault's design which they also built, thus Matra came up with the Avantime which was based in Espace III, it was built on the same production line as Espace III.
I believe the concept was based around the family man who spent years driving an Espace and now the chicks have flown the nest wants a big car with the driving position of an Espace but with less seats.
Also if every one on here who now swoons over the Avantime had actually bought one they could have doubled the lifetime production run

TartanPaint

2,989 posts

139 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Abbott said:
Also if every one on here who now swoons over the Avantime had actually bought one they could have doubled the lifetime production run
If they were common, we wouldn't want one. Catch 22.

ajprice

27,484 posts

196 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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TartanPaint said:
Abbott said:
Also if every one on here who now swoons over the Avantime had actually bought one they could have doubled the lifetime production run
If they were common, we wouldn't want one. Catch 22.
How many of the people swooning over it now didn't have £25k and a driving licence 15 years ago?

Usget

5,426 posts

211 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Abbott said:
Also if every one on here who now swoons over the Avantime had actually bought one they could have doubled the lifetime production run
Well, that's the case for a lot of cars. There's loads of things that I am glad *someone* buys but would never go out and buy myself.

For example - the Dacia Duster.

shalmaneser

5,934 posts

195 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Saw a green one of these on Sunday with all the windows down - looked amazing!

More pics please!