Not very PH - VW T5 Camper

Not very PH - VW T5 Camper

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croakey

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1,193 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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84bhp isn’t a lot in a small eco box hatchback, it’s borderline dangerous in a van. There is continental tectonic movement that would embarrass it once fully loaded with a camper conversion.

So with that in mind and the van now relieved of all the old racking, flooring and full height bulk head it was off to an old friend.



My friend Chris happens to run performanceremapuk in Gloucester, which is very handy when visiting my parents.

Some money later and the van was in the wokshop for an electrical tickle. A couple of test runs to establish base levels and no boost leaks etc and it was time to plug the old girl in.



The 84bhp (and 102bhp for that matter) vans are equipped with only a 5 speed gearbox where as the bigger 140bhp has a 6 speed. As well as an extra cog the 6 speed is also allegedly stronger and able to take more than 380nm of torque.

So with those warnings in mind and the electric wizardry complete it was time to see what the van could muster up.



The result?



162bhp and a completely renewed driving experience.



5harp3y

1,943 posts

200 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Thats an impressive hike!

croakey

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1,193 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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5harp3y said:
Thats an impressive hike!
Massively under boosted from factory, 84bhp the turbo barely spools.

ADogg

1,349 posts

215 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Looks fabulous! Here is mine, I love it!


We’ve only owned it a few months and have done a bit of tinkering. We hire it out, so can’t post pictures of it as it is now.

I’ve been contemplating those steel wheels, what size tyre do you use?

Edited by ADogg on Tuesday 28th August 23:53

familyguy1

778 posts

133 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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Yours looks to be a 5spd, whats it like to drive with that additional power ? I find with my 102bhp and 5spd that sometimes a 6th would be nice for motorways and extra power would be nice for the odd hill when fully loaded! but other than that its a camper and its fully loaded with family so don't need a rocket so 102bhp was pretty fine 99% of the time.

croakey

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1,193 posts

189 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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familyguy1 said:
Yours looks to be a 5spd, whats it like to drive with that additional power ? I find with my 102bhp and 5spd that sometimes a 6th would be nice for motorways and extra power would be nice for the odd hill when fully loaded! but other than that its a camper and its fully loaded with family so don't need a rocket so 102bhp was pretty fine 99% of the time.
Similar line of thinking tbh. Another gear would be desirable, but it is a van, and I never drive it hard as a result.


croakey

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189 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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Dynamically speaking a T5 transporter is never going to show its heels to pretty much anything on the road, it is after all a 2 tonne box on wheels.

However it could be improved.

With that in mind I got to work and dropped my van to the garage to get the wheels and tyres united and the coilovers bolted up.

Tyre choice as I mentioned before was limited as I wanted both a lower profile and suitable load rating. In between the linglong ditchfinder xl’s and other such quality items there were Nankangs. Now people always have an opinion on Nankangs and being brutally honest I’ve never had an issue with them on the various cars I’ve had... so for that reason they were duly ordered. In this instance I went with a load rated 255/50/18 XL 103.

The suspension by all accounts ( I don’t do mechanical stuff) were a sod to do. The old shocks and springs playing hard ball and drop links having to be cut off and replaced with some upgraded ones.

But the end result was worth it.





Ok at this point it didn’t have windows and was a bare van inside but I could see its potential slowly growing.

The drive was much improved, less body roll, a significant drop in height but best of all a compliant non crashy ride. If there is ever a criticism levelled at coilovers without a posh name is that they are often bumpy as a result of poor rebound control, the vanslams avoid this and drive smoother than stock.



This was pretty much the outside finished aside from the guts of the conversion such as windows and a very expensive roof system.


familyguy1

778 posts

133 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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interesting comments about the vanslams, thanks, I also would like to drop mine a little more (to help with height restrictions) and also improve the roll and ride.

BTW looks a smart conversion, which roof is it and do you loose much head room ? and what seating is in the back ?

croakey

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1,193 posts

189 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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Took it out to a local VW meet the other night and took this photo.

My favourite so far at showing it’s current appearance.

More posts coming soon; just need the time to type them all out

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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croakey said:
It’ll take a while!

Luckily with paternity leave looming I’ll have some time shortly!
Ah ha. Hahahahah. Haha! hahahaha,,,,

No, no you won't...

Cool van though, The stealth look is much, much better than the typical scene look.

economicpygmy

387 posts

124 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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Looks like a good buy. Steel wheels look great.

A very timely thread as I'm looking for similar at the moment but LWB. AC is an unhelpful requirement.



Edited by economicpygmy on Saturday 1st September 12:53

jas xjr

11,309 posts

240 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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croakey said:


Took it out to a local VW meet the other night and took this photo.

My favourite so far at showing it’s current appearance.

More posts coming soon; just need the time to type them all out
You could have at least parked it at a jaunty angle smile

Looks great. Definately ph material

Usget

5,426 posts

212 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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Someone's got to say it.

Have you got a Jess the Cat to go on the dashboard?

croakey

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189 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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Usget said:
Someone's got to say it.

Have you got a Jess the Cat to go on the dashboard?
My little girl is obsessed with a book that makes various siren noises. She refers to it as “nee-nar” presumably because it’s like the thing fireman Sam drives.


croakey

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1,193 posts

189 months

Saturday 1st September 2018
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Having taken some baby steps with the suspension and wheels it was time to swallow to pull on my big boy pants and face both the prospect of someone cutting some monstrous holes in my new pride and joy... and the large bill that follows doing so.

Windows were a relatively easy decision, the rear tailgate was already pre glazed from factory and I knew I needed some windows so that the back wasn’t like sleeping in a coffin. There’s plenty of options for windows, sliders, posh new flush sliders, and the list goes on. I opted for the original single slider on the drivers side where the kitchen would end up and a non slider window in the sliding door. The rear quarter panels if you hadn’t clocked already are false, just the panel blacked out and the window bonded over the top. This serves two purposes, one it provides some privacy in the back (plus one would be covered by the kitchen) and two from the outside it provides a more balanced look. The factory tailgate was then tinted to match.

The roof was the major sticking point, there are LOTS of options out there varying not only in price but also build quality. You can spend £1800 fully fitted for a non M1 crash tested newcomer brand upto a mind blowing £7000 for the worlds latest and greatest big brand offering. Me? I went somewhere in the middle with a Skyline M1 crash tested roof with some extras such as the scenic canvas option and gas strutted bed platform. Skyline stood out for a couple of reasons, their customer service is second to none and all of their reviews rave about how good they are. The fact they were from where I lived as a child topped it off.

A roof for me was essential, it provides not only an additional two “berths” ideally the kids when they get bigger, but also the ability to stand up and not spend time doubled over like a hunchback.

I found a local installer (more on them later!) and got the ball rolling with a lead time of 3 months! Skyline offer a mad array of colour options for both the roof shell and the canvas fitted, I played it safe with a colour coded shell and a black canvas to match into with general colour scheme.

During the installation the installers insisted on sending me proof of the butchery I was subjecting my poor defenceless van to!






And this is the finished article in various configurations, roof up and down and the scenic canvas clipped back opening it to the world.








It was a huge expense but worth every penny not fitted opening up so many more options.





lost in espace

6,167 posts

208 months

Saturday 1st September 2018
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I saw a 12 plate Meile van flying down the M4 in the fast lane, made me chuckle.

Paynewright

659 posts

78 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Any updates on van matters??

dave_s13

13,814 posts

270 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Cool van.

I went Japanese....much less cash and 240bhp out the box. LPG conversion keeps the running costs reasonable.

croakey

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1,193 posts

189 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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Paynewright said:
Any updates on van matters??
Many.

Forgot I had a thread on here!

croakey

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189 months

Thursday 22nd August 2019
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What are people using for image hosting after photo bucket died? My images seem to upset thumbsnap as they’re too big?