2009 E92 M3 - Monte Carlo Edition

2009 E92 M3 - Monte Carlo Edition

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cerb4.5lee

30,667 posts

180 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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I was lucky with my E92 M3 and I waited for it to ask me for 1 litre and I added 1 litre without any issue(added 2 litres overall while I had the car). My 2006 E90 330i was the same but that used 1 litre every 2k miles(a very oil thirsty car that was), each and every time I waited for it to ask me for 1 litre and I added 1 litre without any issue.

I liked the digital dipstick and I got used to it, I was a bit miffed when I realised that the 2017 Mercedes I have now has an old fashioned dipstick...I thought I'd gone back to the dark ages! smile

The E92 M3 does seem to be a very tempremental oil wise and my BIL had to have his drained because he added too much.

PorkRind

3,053 posts

205 months

Friday 1st February 2019
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horico said:
I agree - she is a looker and is a different shade depending on the prevailing light conditions. I'm getting more used to the handling and performance which goes from very sheep-like in the wrong gear, like 5th at 40mph but get half way round the rev range and it's genuinely brisk. Once the tyres are warm and on a decent road, it's like the car gets up on it's toes and feels really agile despite the weight of it all. The wife's had two Golf R's and they only started to come alive when really hammering along and arguably, taking liberties, but the M3 has a broader band of appeal.

I noticed the lack of colours on the C63's when I was looking - they didn't really have much variety back then although I'm not really sure why. There are some lovely BMW colours out there, particularly from the individual range. I recently found I'd quite fancy a speed yellow E92 after someone mentioned the colour to me, much better than the Dakar variant.
I liked the gold colour the z3m and e46 came in, that and the le mans blue. Then again a e90/2 black with red leather also appeals. I'm quite happy with the merc though, its quite subtle, even the calipers are grey and the rear windows dark, its quite the mystery mobile! It needs a damn good clean though, i dont have all the kit like you do - costs 100's doesnt it, i think ill get a detailer to do some protective work on it and get her looking sparkly again. I also want a 2nday decat, but being told its 500 for the magnex part plus fitting, i think ill go to some exhaust specialist who should be able to do this for me for less £.

horico

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245 posts

214 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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cerb4.5lee said:
I was lucky with my E92 M3 and I waited for it to ask me for 1 litre and I added 1 litre without any issue(added 2 litres overall while I had the car). My 2006 E90 330i was the same but that used 1 litre every 2k miles(a very oil thirsty car that was), each and every time I waited for it to ask me for 1 litre and I added 1 litre without any issue.

I liked the digital dipstick and I got used to it, I was a bit miffed when I realised that the 2017 Mercedes I have now has an old fashioned dipstick...I thought I'd gone back to the dark ages! smile

The E92 M3 does seem to be a very tempremental oil wise and my BIL had to have his drained because he added too much.
It would be great if they worked as well as yours did but it seems it's a bit hit and miss - hence my initial approach. it would be just my luck to stick the whole litre in and be in the same situation as your BIL! I'm planning on an oil change around June time so I'll see what the level is saying then - maybe even estimate any oil usage over time if possible.

PorkRind said:
I liked the gold colour the z3m and e46 came in, that and the le mans blue. Then again a e90/2 black with red leather also appeals. I'm quite happy with the merc though, its quite subtle, even the calipers are grey and the rear windows dark, its quite the mystery mobile! It needs a damn good clean though, i dont have all the kit like you do - costs 100's doesnt it, i think ill get a detailer to do some protective work on it and get her looking sparkly again. I also want a 2nday decat, but being told its 500 for the magnex part plus fitting, i think ill go to some exhaust specialist who should be able to do this for me for less £.
Yes, cleaning can get pricey if you get in to it but you needn't spend too much - just some select items once and a few extras over time - it's the methods used and care taken that makes the main difference. Like you say though - if you get I detailed (as in paint corrected) once - you can maintain it yourself with the minimum of kit. Speaking of which....

Nothing much further to report other than the fitting of the winter tyres. They're Michelin Pilot Sport Alpin and grip has markedly improved once it gets to below 10 degrees. The PSS' would warm up eventually but on my short commute of approximately 6/7 miles they didn't ever get up to temp. The change was quite dramatic if I'm honest and were fine in the one day of snow we got the other day. I even chose to drive the M3 in the snow instead of the wife's 4wd Octavia Scout shod with winter tyres too.

I also managed to get a quick wash in and try a product I've been hearing good things about - P&S Beadmaker. After a normal maintenance wash, you could still see the protection working with many fat beads. Once dried off I applied the beadmaker liberally and used almost half a bottle in the process. The next use will be a much lighter coat but it's good to make sure of the coverage on the first coat. After that, I got some snaps outside a local airport.

Beading:

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Beadmaker applied:
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horico

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245 posts

214 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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No real update on here recently, I've been busy rebuilding an old Ducati which is taking up both time and money so less to spend on the M3. I did manage to get a good drive across to Caffeine and Machine though which was a good run out. I'm also surprised how well matched the M3 is to the same year 911 C2S as that was what a mate was driving. I was debating an earlier (dot one) 911 and save for the possibility of the Porsche being transcendent to drive, I'm still happy with my choice. I'm also glad I managed to get the summer tyres back on for the drive though - despite the bit or drizzle on the way there. It was pretty overcast so not too good for piccies but I did take a couple:

Quick tyre change:


Resting with the playmate:


Front of house:


Cheers

Matt

horico

Original Poster:

245 posts

214 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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It's been a while since I revisited this thread, shame on me. Let's sort that out.

June 2019 wasn't fun for Monte - the roads were being laid on our estate and the manhole covers were all raised for it to be done. Our road goes down a slope when it joins the main thoroughfare and a misjudged entry resulted in a costly carbon casualty:

It doesn't look very steep in the photo


The casualty


Half naked

horico

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245 posts

214 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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He was treated to a bit of a clean - the car was still being used as a daily at the time. Eagle eyed viewers will spot the garage upgrades too!














horico

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245 posts

214 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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I was due to be going to Nurburg on the Ducati so had been savng the pennies for the trip, including a full service on the bike and a set of tyres so what came next was definitely not welcome!

Cue engine warning light and several errors:




Now, the original error set included a further "Engine Fault, Reduced Power!" warning. It was booked in for diagnostics and the first thing that was faulty was the nearside wheel speed sensor. This was sorted on the day and all was well for a few days.

The above errors then re-appeared and the car went in to limp mode. It would decide for itself if it came bac to life after a restart but it allowed me to get to and from work for a few days. I did some more digging and spoke to Jason at Rebuild as everything pointed to the throttle actuators being at fault.

Throttle actuators are a very common issue on the E92 M3 and if you have one you should expect one to fail between 30-60k miles depending on how lucky you are. BMW will sell you one for approx. £650 (one for each bank). The thing is, they've never upgraded the design and these will fail just like the originals.

The answer is to have the aforementioned Jason to install two modified versions that are guaranteed for life. They're modified slightly from the originals and Jason will guarantee them for you. He gets your old ones and he modifies them to put in another car. He was very accommodating and travelled to me to do it on the drive - probably in less than an hour! He charges approx £600 to replace both actuators so a real saving along with the peace of mind.


horico

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245 posts

214 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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After the actutor was fixed, I went away happy in the knowledge that the car was fit and healthy for me coming back and using it as a daily. That was the way it went for a good while until around June 20 when the 'new' daily arrived!



It's a 2011 T5.1 140BHP with approx 90k miles (as of today). 8 seats, TV inside, sportline bodywork etc etc. I may start another thread for it although I'm also considering doing one to cover the entire (small) fleet.

It did have some 20 inch Range Rover alloys fitted but the ride was terrible and two cracked so an emergency set of steels were sourced. I have my eye on some replacement wheels so we'll see what happens with any new threads for it!


horico

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245 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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The arrival of the new daily meant that Monte could now find a space in the garage next to the ladies (one of which has changed from blue to red - see my comment above about fleet / thread possibilities).



This was short lived, however, as a need to upgrade the electrics in the garage meant to M3 was pushed out into the cold again. Then Autumn arrived...

This was just over a few days - the wind whips round the drive as it's basically a quadrangle with a single entrance and walled / houses on each side.




horico

Original Poster:

245 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Just before Xmas 2020, Monte was booked in for an oil service. I forgot to ask for the brake fluid to be changed at the same time as this was due weeks later - the oil service itself wasn't technically due but it was 12 months since the last time it was dropped. They did ask me as it has only done 5k miles since the last one but I want to keep the annual oil changes as it's never gone more than 8k between changes, maybe less.



It then went for an MOT but to allow it to pass, I needed an offside side repeater. Handily(!), the edition models have unique black chrome ones that are a one piece unit and you can't just change the bulb. £120 for a side repeater for god's sake - what on earth is that all about?!

To really make it painful, I finally replaced the carbon corner splitter so in the same order from BMW, I has an OEM item included - another £200 just for that. Sometimes, being a little picky can be expensive you know!

Needless to say, the MOT was passed without issue - the tester is quite fond of the car, having a V10 M5 himself. Regardless, I always take the original front plate along with me in case he wants it fitting for the test.

horico

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245 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Next up was a small modification as I felt bad for not getting the car anything for xmas (the electrics in the garage were to blame here). Some extended paddles were on my wishlist for a while. My E46 had AC Schnitzer items and I liked the look and feel of them - these ones are very similar and are made of aluminium.

They come in a choice of colours - red, blue, black, silver; I thought silver would go well with the rest of the car - if the OEM black wheels and exhaust were fitted I may have gone with black but I'm very happy with these. 10 mins to fit and the job was done:





Shortly after fitting these, I finally managed to re-tidy the garage and make some space again for the M3 to go back inside.





Once the electrics are finished in the garage, I can get the car plugged in permantently to the CTEK as I've hardly driven the car since the MOT - about 65 miles since November! It's tucked away all nice and clean too so I'm loathe to take it out and get it covered in salt and muck, particularly at a time when an extended drive is frowned upon. I'm looking forward to it getting warmer when at least I can get it out now and again and enjoy it for what it is.

Edit: I almost forgot, here's a cut down version of a video I did while playing with a new camera slider I had for my birthday.

I'll replace with the original version once I re-edit the GPS co-ordinates on the sat nav!

https://youtu.be/vR8E0UzwPgM

As always, thanks for reading and I hope you liked the updates.


horico

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245 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Now, back to the present day - with an update I missed, probably blocked it out as it's a bit of a sod. I jumped in the car back in September 20 to nip out and when pulling away heard a noise that sounded like a stone in a tyre. We have some pebbles next to the driveway so it does happen from time to time. Like normal, I expected it to shake loose quite quickly.

I got about 400m down the road where you come onto a 50mph road and started accelerating. The noise got way worse than what you'd expect from a stone so I pulled over very quickly. I was greeted with this:



At the time, I had no idea what it was but a mate suggested it's a welding rod. It wasn't coming out at the roadside so I rolled the car home to check the damage.

This is the front of the offside rear arch:


And the rear:


Basically, the rod had cut into the side skirt, scrubbed the arch and worn the rear bumper edge. Marvellous. All for running up to 50mph in a few seconds.

Another thing I forgot to mention was that when I picked the car up after the oil service, I noticed a car park dent on the offside rear. It wasn't there when I took it down as I gave the car a good wash before I dropped it off and it hadn't turned a wheel in between. As soon as I approached the car at the garage I saw it immediately and my heart sunk. Fortunately, I have a good relationship with the owner of the garage and they offered to pay for the PDR which, while not expensive, is an example of how to look after customers - these things happen unfortunately!

There is also a crack in the paint in the rear bumper but no other associated damage. I can't remember when it was done but this will be sorted when it goes in for the arch to be done. They will also be able to take care of some paint touch ups ahead of the rear wheel which look to be stone chips that were touched in before I got the car.

TR4man

5,227 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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I feel for you - that must be so frustrating.

Gandoolie

200 posts

49 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Never seen one in that colour, great looking machine! Jealous of the T5 as I’d love one for daily duties

cerb4.5lee

30,667 posts

180 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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A cracking update(apart from the annoying wheel arch bit). thumbup

Your garage doors look great too. cool

horico

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245 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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TR4man said:
I feel for you - that must be so frustrating.
The wheel arch was infuriating at the time. I'm kinda over it at the moment but the pain will come flooding back when it comes to paying for the repair. With everything - arch, bumper and stone chops I'm looking at about £700 all in.

Gandoolie said:
Never seen one in that colour, great looking machine! Jealous of the T5 as I’d love one for daily duties
There's about 120 Monte Carlo Editions, well, there was. The other edition colours were Alpine White and Dakar Yellow. At the time of purchase and for a long time I really wanted a japan red KA401 - there were 25 of these iirc and the majority had a clear matte wrap. The non-wrapped cars are the ones tho - beautiful.

cerb4.5lee said:
A cracking update(apart from the annoying wheel arch bit). thumbup

Your garage doors look great too. cool
Cheers pal - and good spot!

Court_S

12,952 posts

177 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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That’s lovely. I like the blue buttons and the upgraded paddles look the business.

Bummer about getting arch.

horico

Original Poster:

245 posts

214 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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When you don't use a car as much as you'd like, chances to post updates are few and far between. Unfortunately, continuing the recent theme, this one is about another issue that cropped up. Last Friday, I thought I'd get the M3 out and take a run to work for no other reason that it was a nice day and it's been sorely underused of late. I got as far as the end of my road and could tell there was something wrong. A rubbing / clanking noise was coming from the front somewhere so I nursed the car back home, parked up and jumped in the van to go to work.

I immediately suspected a broken spring when I looked at how the wheel was sitting in the arch. This is how it sat after faffing with some wood to lift things up to then allow jacking up.



While I waited for the new springs to arrive, up on jack stands she went. Jacked up via centre jacking point which required each wheel being raised up and supported first:



Just as the wheels came off, these arrived courtesy of Motech. Great to deal with and rapid delivery - about £10 more than the best price I could find but the manner on the phone decided it. Follow up has been great too.



Behold the mess:



Snapped just above the bottom coil. It looks to have failed where the corrosion is the worse and the original paint has flaked off.



Now while I would love to post the next few images and make out it was an easy job, that would be a lie. I'm nowhere near as experienced or competent home mechanic as most on here but did think this was something I could tackle. There's no rush to get it done in a particular time and I can take things easy at my own pace.

Now, the original plan was to remove the strut and take it to the garage I have the MOT's on the fleet done as I had been there in the morning with the wife's car which got it's ticket for another 12 months. The owner has a V10 M5 so we often ask how each other's is doing and mentioned the current situation. He said not to bother with spring compressors and bring the strut down to him and he's get the spring off on the bench with the daddy versions. I followed two very good Youtube videos, Stone Automotive and CarLubetv's. Both go through the process well but SA misses out a few key things to know, particularly on re-assembly and CLTV cuts out the fenegeling side of things and suggests things are easier than they are!

Anyway, as much as I tried, the offside strut wasn't coming out. Plan B it was then and off to Halfords for some coil springs.

The tools laid out were mounting up. Oh, and my low height trolley jack started leaking....



The first side took a while - mainy faffing with the spring compressors and taking things very slowly with them. I did 5 turns each and measured the amount compressed each side as I went. I didn't really fancy messing that part up. There was also a bit of a faff with the trolley jack raising the strut up to the body - I finally worked out that there was a locating pin in addition to the 3 x threads that poked up and got it all back together. As with most things, it took longer than it needed to but the third time I did it (yes, I missed a rubbed cover on the first one I did so had to remove and refit), it only took 45 minutes wheel off to wheel on.

Not pictured but something I did was to cut 6-7mm off the bump stop. Stone Automotive covers it in his video well but the general thing to do with these is to use E36 M3 bump stops and shaved top mounts - he didn't and did the same as I did.

Then it was on to the rear which I had hoped would be much more straightforward. In terms of getting the spring on and out, it is - it's the tension on the two bolts for the shock and ball joint that are a pain in the arse. Tight to remove using just hand tools and a pain to line back up again when refitting. Expect to swear a lot if doing this with a similar level of experience as me.

Ass in the air:



Lining these up is a sod.



Spring out:



The upper and lower rubber fittings need to be positioned correctly on the spring before re-fitting:







The old springs:



Everything re-fitted and back on her wheels:





Overall, i'm pleased with how it now looks. There is a pretty subtle drop although I forgot to get the tape measure out in the excitement. The front now looks like it could do with a spacer - I've got 12mm on the rear and none on the front with these wheels and it's almost as if the slight drop has made the front wheel look more tucked in to the arch. I'll ponder it some more and probably try a 10mm up front.

I'll have to wait for a proper test drive as range is down to 6 miles and there's no way I'm queuing to get fuel with all the faff going on right now. I'll report back on driving impressions when I can. Next up is going to be the annual oil change, brake fluid change and spark plugs. The wheels will be coming back off for a deep clean of the arches before I consider a refurb of the wheels to clear a few marks on them that have appeared over the last 3 years.

I'm pleased I had a go at doing this job, although there were definitely times I wished I had a mate helping out!

As always, thanks for reading.

Matt

Edited by horico on Monday 27th September 21:25

Krikkit

26,529 posts

181 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Car looks great, lovely colour!

Springs always seem to be a faff one way or the other, there's always something.

Mr Tidy

22,359 posts

127 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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That's a stunning colour!

Such a shame coil springs on early 2000s BMWs seem to be a consumable item. frown

Not to mention bearing shells on N/A M engines.