P38 Range Rover, errrr...daily.
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I've had a try at the NSF window. Took the door panel off, pulled off the weather shield. I see nothing wrong with it other than a bit of flex to it all. I replaced one of the rivets that had too much movement and greased everything. It now works, but still judders a bit. Perhaps a new regulator in time? The teeth all look good.
Replacement diff was dropped off with my local garage. Initial inspection, it looks good. In the end, I went with a good second hand unit rather than a refurb, as the price difference was too great. I'll get this booked in at some point.
The car had a journey to the north to visit family. Not a bad way to do it in the miserable weather.
My main issue with the car now is the original tapping noise I described. After thinking about when I hear it, it would appear to be on a cold engine when under load (specifically at low to medium revs, not at high RPM). Once the car has got to temperature, then turned off and back on again, the tapping is gone. This could be a tappet? Perhaps an engine flush and another oil change would help. I feel like it does it less than it did, but there was so much rattling and noise at first, it was hard to pick them out! As I work through each noise, it is becoming easier.
Replacement diff was dropped off with my local garage. Initial inspection, it looks good. In the end, I went with a good second hand unit rather than a refurb, as the price difference was too great. I'll get this booked in at some point.
The car had a journey to the north to visit family. Not a bad way to do it in the miserable weather.
My main issue with the car now is the original tapping noise I described. After thinking about when I hear it, it would appear to be on a cold engine when under load (specifically at low to medium revs, not at high RPM). Once the car has got to temperature, then turned off and back on again, the tapping is gone. This could be a tappet? Perhaps an engine flush and another oil change would help. I feel like it does it less than it did, but there was so much rattling and noise at first, it was hard to pick them out! As I work through each noise, it is becoming easier.
I hope everyone is enjoying the Christmas period. Latest in P38 land...
Earlier in the month, the car made itself useful "fitting" a 7 footer in. Those split tailgates are good, even if it is just to let Euro 2 diesel fumes in the cabin.
The car has visited various parts of the country, saying hello at Silverstone to a fellow Brit.
The heady heights of the Travelodge near Carlisle on the M6, but doing a good job of feeling a nicer place to be than aforementioned budget hotel.
I had read that some cabin vibration can be brought about by over-tightening of the cat to turbo connection. Sure enough, when I checked, it was as tight as could be. The new engine mounts made a vast difference to NVH, this could be the next step.
Whilst away, I was passenger in a colleague's 2013 L320. Although a nice place to be, the infotainment was seriously dated and the recent purchase price of £26k was enough for me to run back to my 1/10 price P38 and be happy with its relative lack of refinement.
I've covered 5k miles so far and I'm enjoying it.
Last job was a wash, great at showing up that flat offside wing. Still, I do like a green car.
Happy new year in a few days!
Earlier in the month, the car made itself useful "fitting" a 7 footer in. Those split tailgates are good, even if it is just to let Euro 2 diesel fumes in the cabin.
The car has visited various parts of the country, saying hello at Silverstone to a fellow Brit.
The heady heights of the Travelodge near Carlisle on the M6, but doing a good job of feeling a nicer place to be than aforementioned budget hotel.
I had read that some cabin vibration can be brought about by over-tightening of the cat to turbo connection. Sure enough, when I checked, it was as tight as could be. The new engine mounts made a vast difference to NVH, this could be the next step.
Whilst away, I was passenger in a colleague's 2013 L320. Although a nice place to be, the infotainment was seriously dated and the recent purchase price of £26k was enough for me to run back to my 1/10 price P38 and be happy with its relative lack of refinement.
I've covered 5k miles so far and I'm enjoying it.
Last job was a wash, great at showing up that flat offside wing. Still, I do like a green car.
Happy new year in a few days!
steve-5snwi said:
I don't know if the heated screen is similar to the Ford set up, but there are two fuses, one for each side. If not its a case of checking the wires up to the screen and cleaning connections as you go.
Looks to be the Ford screen. It works mostly on both sides so it must be individual connections, like you say. Not a lot has changed recently. My three year old, pictured below, absolutely loves the car. Can’t get enough of it, which is really nice to see. Unfortunately his mum and I have separated, with a divorce on its way. I don’t see the car going anywhere, though. Hopefully a better 2019 ahead.
Sorry to hear about the bittersweet start to the year. I remember being a passenger in my dad's 70's 2 door classic as a child, and instantly falling in love. Then he got a 4 door 90s classic, and I fell in love all over again! Still hanker after 4 wheel drive v8 fun 20 years later...
MJ85 said:
MJ85 said:
Forgot to add, this gives the car a genuine 500+ mile range. Useful.
Useful.A question about P38's as there seems to be some experience contributing to this thread.
A P38 on air bags and sensible wheel/tyre combo, how is the ride? Good as an old XJ6? Like and old Sierra? Super comfy flying carpet? Like a pillow made of Hungarian Goose feathers?
Of a bit bumpy?
Based on a small sample, I though the coil-sprung version I drove was every bit as good as the air-sprung version. That said, the coil one was in really good condition, and the airbagged version was very much well-worn, so possibly not apples and pears, but nevertheless not really much in in either way.
Unless you really want to throw money at it, I'd not bother swapping back.
Unless you really want to throw money at it, I'd not bother swapping back.
I expected a magic carpet ride from mine so I was slightly disappointed. New rear bags improved matters and I'm anticipating that new front ones, a job scheduled for the summer probably with front shocks as well, should see a further improvement.
So far it is comparable with my XJ6 SIII but less well damped and a lot more 'choppy.' It is heavy and tall though, perhaps I'm asking too much.
So far it is comparable with my XJ6 SIII but less well damped and a lot more 'choppy.' It is heavy and tall though, perhaps I'm asking too much.
52classic said:
I expected a magic carpet ride from mine so I was slightly disappointed. New rear bags improved matters and I'm anticipating that new front ones, a job scheduled for the summer probably with front shocks as well, should see a further improvement.
So far it is comparable with my XJ6 SIII but less well damped and a lot more 'choppy.' It is heavy and tall though, perhaps I'm asking too much.
That's very encouraging. Its never going to not be choppy, short/tall/heavy. But if its comparable to an XJ6 then I'm going to get one!So far it is comparable with my XJ6 SIII but less well damped and a lot more 'choppy.' It is heavy and tall though, perhaps I'm asking too much.
Oh dear.
https://youtu.be/GWYVyvuJOy8
Car struggled to start after a four hour journey to Sussex. Not the best place to break down. Luckily it kicked into life. Spotted the diesel leak in the video today. I’ll take a look properly tomorrow, but it doesn’t appear to be the leak off pipes.
https://youtu.be/GWYVyvuJOy8
Car struggled to start after a four hour journey to Sussex. Not the best place to break down. Luckily it kicked into life. Spotted the diesel leak in the video today. I’ll take a look properly tomorrow, but it doesn’t appear to be the leak off pipes.
Issue fixed.
Looks like someone had fitted incorrect diesel leak off pipes. Taking off the intake pipe and inlet manifold allowed for easy access to these pipes. Cut to size and fit. No more leak and now starts straight away.
Only question I have is, does it matter what order you connect them?
Also noticed the fourth injector had a slight compression leak, but this appears to be very common.
I've also ordered a replacement oil cap, as this is not sealing well. I think the manifold removal has also cured a few rattles, as I put things back a little better than they may have been. I've ordered a new EGR straight pipe as the original had clearly been crossed threaded/over tightened when fitted previously, meaning I cannot get a good seal on it when putting it back. This one removes the EGR pipe from the engine completely. Updates soon, no doubt.
Looks like someone had fitted incorrect diesel leak off pipes. Taking off the intake pipe and inlet manifold allowed for easy access to these pipes. Cut to size and fit. No more leak and now starts straight away.
Only question I have is, does it matter what order you connect them?
Also noticed the fourth injector had a slight compression leak, but this appears to be very common.
I've also ordered a replacement oil cap, as this is not sealing well. I think the manifold removal has also cured a few rattles, as I put things back a little better than they may have been. I've ordered a new EGR straight pipe as the original had clearly been crossed threaded/over tightened when fitted previously, meaning I cannot get a good seal on it when putting it back. This one removes the EGR pipe from the engine completely. Updates soon, no doubt.
After the success with the leak off pipes, there was a small issue with the EGR straight pipe. Someone in the past had over-tightened one of the steel bolts into the alloy housing, meaning it wasn't sealing the pipe properly, fumes, cabin, you get the idea.
Earlier versions of this car/engine combo came without an EGR, so there wasn't much point trying to source a replacement EGR and have the inlet manifold fill with oil and gunk.
A different version does away with the exhaust to EGR pipe completely, with a blanking plate installed on the exhaust manifold.
This also allowed for the removal of the vacuum pipe. This was rattling around a lot, so all helping with improving NVH levels.
Whilst dealing with this, it had turned out the MAP sensor had been disconnected from the inlet manifold via its hose ever since i'd had the car! Stealing some hose from the defunct EGR system has allowed me to reinstate it (some decent stuff on its way), giving extra power! Something that was needed. Might improve MPG a tad, also. Good stuff.
Earlier versions of this car/engine combo came without an EGR, so there wasn't much point trying to source a replacement EGR and have the inlet manifold fill with oil and gunk.
A different version does away with the exhaust to EGR pipe completely, with a blanking plate installed on the exhaust manifold.
This also allowed for the removal of the vacuum pipe. This was rattling around a lot, so all helping with improving NVH levels.
Whilst dealing with this, it had turned out the MAP sensor had been disconnected from the inlet manifold via its hose ever since i'd had the car! Stealing some hose from the defunct EGR system has allowed me to reinstate it (some decent stuff on its way), giving extra power! Something that was needed. Might improve MPG a tad, also. Good stuff.
Hopefully someone is still with me at this point.
The car was going great after the new leak off pipes, EGR pipe and another service (6k miles will be my interval).
But, I was in traffic and when pulling away I had the odd sensation of driving over a washboard surface (on a flat road). This looked like it was universal joint/s on the prop. A quick wiggle confirmed this. As other work had been accumulating, I had booked the car in for a list of work. Today, I checked it out mid-way, looking good.
- Air con regas and check for leaks
- Fit OSF replacement window regulator
- Fit replacement diff and new hub seals
- Replace rear discs and pads
- Change 2 x universal joints on the front prop shaft
- Coolant flush and change
- Remove a few brackets that are rattling around on the underside
- Check for a puncture and balance rear wheels
- Loosen turbo to cat connection as this is too tight
Some out of focus images there, but never mind.
You can see the coolant wasn't looking very clever. When I get the car back, i'm hoping for a big improvement on NVH and all round awesomeness.
The car was going great after the new leak off pipes, EGR pipe and another service (6k miles will be my interval).
But, I was in traffic and when pulling away I had the odd sensation of driving over a washboard surface (on a flat road). This looked like it was universal joint/s on the prop. A quick wiggle confirmed this. As other work had been accumulating, I had booked the car in for a list of work. Today, I checked it out mid-way, looking good.
- Air con regas and check for leaks
- Fit OSF replacement window regulator
- Fit replacement diff and new hub seals
- Replace rear discs and pads
- Change 2 x universal joints on the front prop shaft
- Coolant flush and change
- Remove a few brackets that are rattling around on the underside
- Check for a puncture and balance rear wheels
- Loosen turbo to cat connection as this is too tight
Some out of focus images there, but never mind.
You can see the coolant wasn't looking very clever. When I get the car back, i'm hoping for a big improvement on NVH and all round awesomeness.
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