Facebook marketplace Lexus RX400h SE-L, what could go wrong?

Facebook marketplace Lexus RX400h SE-L, what could go wrong?

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bolidemichael

13,927 posts

202 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Are you aware of the news that Mitsubishi seem to be pulling out of future European operations?

Hoofy

76,450 posts

283 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Interesting conversation! (Still undecided on which hybrid to get!)

LincolnLovin

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219 months

Thursday 30th July 2020
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bolidemichael said:
Are you aware of the news that Mitsubishi seem to be pulling out of future European operations?
Yes, it's great timing frown Luckily this is a dealer with multiple franchises so I am not concerned about them disappearing. It was a complete surprise to the dealer, they found out via the same press release the public did.

Service and warranty work is appearing to continue for 10 years but not sure what this is going to do for resale values etc.

bolidemichael

13,927 posts

202 months

Thursday 30th July 2020
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Well, you just have to look at the value of Saabs as an indicator, in my view.

Technically, if you arrive at an agreement, you can get a refund and consider your options once again.

Hoofy

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283 months

Thursday 30th July 2020
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Have you seen Brett's(?) Mercedes hybrid 4x4 thread? Maybe out of your budget, though?

LincolnLovin

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Thursday 30th July 2020
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No, not seen that - do you have a link handy?

Hoofy

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283 months

Thursday 30th July 2020
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LincolnLovin said:
No, not seen that - do you have a link handy?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=&t=1845907

LincolnLovin

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Thursday 30th July 2020
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Hoofy said:
I like it but I can't get on with the amount you'd have to spend on options to get it at the right spec. The misses is the dealbreaker here, she has to like the look of the car and be able to drive it. She doesn't like the look of the new era Lexus design which is a shame.

Edited by LincolnLovin on Thursday 30th July 12:49

Hoofy

76,450 posts

283 months

Thursday 30th July 2020
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LincolnLovin said:
Hoofy said:
I like it but I can't get on with the amount you'd have to spend on options to get it at the right spec. The misses is the dealbreaker here, she has to like the look of the car and be able to drive it. She doesn't like the look of the new era Lexus design which is a shame.

Edited by LincolnLovin on Thursday 30th July 12:49
frown

So Mitsi Outlander PHEV is the only option?

LincolnLovin

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Thursday 30th July 2020
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So far, though she also like the Cayenne PHEV....I have shared the PHEV merc and BMW.

I just can't believe that Lexus are this far behind the trend, it wouldnt take much to whack in a larger battery in a RX-L and make an awesome PHEV.

Edited by LincolnLovin on Thursday 30th July 17:03

bolidemichael

13,927 posts

202 months

Thursday 30th July 2020
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Mrs Bolide doesn't like the look of ANY Lexus, period.

BrettMRC

4,147 posts

161 months

Thursday 30th July 2020
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RE: Outlander PHEV...

I had the facelifted top trim version for 2 years from new. We did less than 12000miles in that time, and they were not hard miles - but the trim was squeaking and bits were starting to fall off within a year.

On a run it was a struggle to get 30mpg, and the fuel tank was very small. Realistic electric range was about 10miles give or take.

My wife loved it, but I couldn't see past the build quality issues and veto'd getting another one. (We had the C350e instead of another Outlander)

Hopefully the newer ones have a better combined range, but in the dealership even brand new ones still had the same squeeks and rattles. (That was looking in 2019)

Might be worth looking at the Toyota Rav4 as I think there is a PHEV version of that coming.

The X5 45e is an epic do everything car, but as you say - very option sensitive.

Edited by BrettMRC on Friday 31st July 08:17

LincolnLovin

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Friday 31st July 2020
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That's good to know, did you have a readers cars thread on it Brett?

Leaf is about 20 mins away, I hope it's not damaged.

LincolnLovin

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Friday 31st July 2020
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Leaf has arrived safe and sound, so that's something.

BrettMRC

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161 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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Glad you got the Leaf back smile

I didn't do a thread on it, not even sure I have any decent photos of it!

Basically the facelifted PHEV was night and day better than the origional PHEV, however I think they just couldn't keep up with the demand it created and quality suffered as a result.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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BrettMRC said:
RE: Outlander PHEV...

I had the facelifted top trim version for 2 years from new. We did less than 12000miles in that time, and they were not hard miles - but the trim was squeaking and bits were starting to fall off within a year.

On a run it was a struggle to get 30mpg, and the fuel tank was very small. Realistic electric range was about 10miles give or take.

My wife loved it, but I couldn't see past the build quality issues and veto'd getting another one. (We had the C350e instead of another Outlander)

Hopefully the newer ones have a better combined range, but in the dealership even brand new ones still had the same squeeks and rattles. (That was looking in 2019)

Might be worth looking at the Toyota Rav4 as I think there is a PHEV version of that coming.

The X5 45e is an epic do everything car, but as you say - very option sensitive.

Edited by BrettMRC on Friday 31st July 08:17
Brett, can I ask what sort of electric-only range you get from the C350e please?


LincolnLovin

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219 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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I do worry about the longevity of the Outlander PHEV, but the misses has her heart set on it still. Regardless its probably foolish to look at alternate cars until this issue is resolved.

I may just put new car purchases on hold for 2020 and get the Leaf & RX serviced instead. The more I drive the RX the better it feels and more I am reminded why we bought it in the first place. The battery has seemingly improved with use (unsurprising), and apart from the dogbone engine mount being worn it feels incredibly solid. I am thinking about removing the drivers seat and reinstalling the DVD player this weekend as it was such a PITA to install in place that I gave up.

BrettMRC

4,147 posts

161 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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SpeckledJim said:
Brett, can I ask what sort of electric-only range you get from the C350e please?
C350e has gone now, but I did have a thread smile

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

From time to time it would get double figures, realistic was nearer 8 or 9miles.
The regen etc was great though, same as on the 45e.

LincolnLovin

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219 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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The good thing is that this “pause” in car purchasing helps us reevaluate the market.

The Kuga PHEV looks decent, shame the misses can’t abide the badge.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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BrettMRC said:
SpeckledJim said:
Brett, can I ask what sort of electric-only range you get from the C350e please?
C350e has gone now, but I did have a thread smile

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

From time to time it would get double figures, realistic was nearer 8 or 9miles.
The regen etc was great though, same as on the 45e.
Thank you!