ListerBell Stratos

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Slippydiff

14,851 posts

224 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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200Plus Club said:
Just shared that link with a friend who is currently cutting up and fixing a lancia beta coupe to make an 037 replica from!
You may want to share this one with him too :

http://www.carteroni.co.nz/

Would love to build an 037 rep along with an LB Stratos. Perfect garage.
These would do it :



https://petrolicious.com/articles/this-ex-jolly-cl...




shirt

22,621 posts

202 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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Following with interest!

Loved the LB since the autocar review as it’s exactly what a good replica should be imho - the essence of the original but improved for daily use and modern tyres/suspension.

I have the price list from 2013 when I toyed with the idea but didn’t have a garage. Now I have a garage but have an elise and a radical project instead!

Would you mind giving a ballpark estimate of on-the-road cost at some point? I keep looking at dirt cheap alfa v6’s in the hope of removing the engine ‘for later’ and will deffo have one at some point a couple of projects down the line!

There’s a very (!) well built car on the seloc forum here; may give you some ideas

https://forums.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=411682

AlanV6

99 posts

118 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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f**k yeah smile
Great choice of car and even better choice of engine. Can you please give more detail about what was done to the engine, CR, cams, etc... Was rotating assembly weighted and balanced and so on?
I'm a little jealous :P

renmure

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4,252 posts

225 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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Another brief update.

Some detail pics of my car and of the ITB set-up and the GP4 exhaust.

















Fair to say it got a lot of attention biggrin





MKnight702

3,111 posts

215 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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Took a picture of that engine yesterday to post up on here. Love the throttle bodies.

Slippydiff

14,851 posts

224 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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Great to see a motivated purchaser/owner and vendor. Whilst I love a good build thread, too many end up dragging on for years then never getting finished. Nice to see this one making good progress smile

Edited by Slippydiff on Wednesday 8th May 13:37

Bright Halo

2,977 posts

236 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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I saw your car at Stoneleigh yesterday along with all the LB Stratos’s.
Looked fantastic!
The tennis balls in the intakes caused some interesting comments.


200Plus Club

10,773 posts

279 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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Bright Halo said:
I saw your car at Stoneleigh yesterday along with all the LB Stratos’s.
Looked fantastic!
The tennis balls in the intakes caused some interesting comments.
An old trick to prevent crap dropping in. Sometimes linked up too!

Bright Halo

2,977 posts

236 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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200Plus Club said:
Bright Halo said:
I saw your car at Stoneleigh yesterday along with all the LB Stratos’s.
Looked fantastic!
The tennis balls in the intakes caused some interesting comments.
An old trick to prevent crap dropping in. Sometimes linked up too!
It was hilarious
“Look that cars air filters look like tennis balls”
“Won’t those shoot out when it starts up”
And the best
“I reckon that’s Andy Murray’s car”

Edited by Bright Halo on Tuesday 7th May 10:37

renmure

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4,252 posts

225 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Bright Halo said:
And the best
“I reckon that’s Andy Murray’s car”
biggrin

456mgt

2,504 posts

267 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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Directly as a result of this thread. Went up to Stoneleigh with the aim of ordering a build. Was told it was 18 months wait for supply of a kit and 3 years if I wanted them to build one for me.. So I turned around and bought Nick's blue one. What an awesome, awesome little car. Properly hardcore. Love it!


Evolved

3,568 posts

188 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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456mgt said:
Directly as a result of this thread. Went up to Stoneleigh with the aim of ordering a build. Was told it was 18 months wait for supply of a kit and 3 years if I wanted them to build one for me.. So I turned around and bought Nick's blue one. What an awesome, awesome little car. Properly hardcore. Love it!

No messing about, that’s how you do things! Nicely done. More pics please.

renmure

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4,252 posts

225 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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456mgt said:
Directly as a result of this thread. Went up to Stoneleigh with the aim of ordering a build. Was told it was 18 months wait for supply of a kit and 3 years if I wanted them to build one for me.. So I turned around and bought Nick's blue one. What an awesome, awesome little car. Properly hardcore. Love it!

Fantastic. That's the way to do it!!

I was actually standing speaking to Craig when you came over to tell him you had bought Nick's car.

20 mins earlier I was saying to Nick that I thought his asking price was too low (not to flatter his build but in recognition that there was a lot of interest and you couldn't now build his car for much less than he was asking and then you would still have a 3 year wait)

This has been a bit of a masochistic journey for me. I've no patience and, like you, just want the car and want it now. I remember the deflation I felt on learning that back then it was a 2 year wait for a turnkey car. When I was first on the LB stand a few years ago there was an Alitalia car on display. If it had been for sale I would have done exactly as you have and just bought it. Bizarrely .. in retrospect I'm glad I didn't because I've enjoyed being part of the build journey more than I would ever have expected and my OCD is satisfied knowing that my car will be pretty close to the mental picture I had for it.. but I'm jealous as hell that you can jump in yours and have a blast on the back roads this weekend. Enjoy!!



200Plus Club

10,773 posts

279 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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456mgt said:
Directly as a result of this thread. Went up to Stoneleigh with the aim of ordering a build. Was told it was 18 months wait for supply of a kit and 3 years if I wanted them to build one for me.. So I turned around and bought Nick's blue one. What an awesome, awesome little car. Properly hardcore. Love it!

Blimey you don't fk about. Well done that man!
Any planned track day jaunts in it? Very envious.

Doofus

25,850 posts

174 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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What sort of money are these?

200Plus Club

10,773 posts

279 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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Doofus said:
What sort of money are these?
£40-50k ish built as a decent spec I think but seriously good value in terms of holding their money generally. So few come up for sale and seem to fly off shelves.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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That does seem good value doesn't it?

200Plus Club

10,773 posts

279 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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Can't go wrong really if you are a fan of the Stratos.

renmure

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4,252 posts

225 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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200Plus Club said:
£40-50k ish built as a decent spec I think but seriously good value in terms of holding their money generally. So few come up for sale and seem to fly off shelves.
You need to be a wee bit careful with over generalising the prices. I'm certainly no expert but I know that over the years there have been various kit so a Stratos replica that's for sale today could be a LB, a Hawk or one of another 2 or 3 manufacturers and the value in them is pretty much determined by the individual spec of each car. LB prices will be leading the way.

Eg, you can simply use a £500 engine from a 2.5 litre Alfa donor car or go down the route I've gone and spend £2500 on the engine then a multiple of that again taking it to be rebuilt and fit the ITBs etc... or you can fit a crate 3.5 litre V6 from the Lotus Evora and, if you're minded, supercharge it. Combine that with the various options for exhaust, brakes, suspension, trim, paint etc for each individual car and you can see how it's difficult to be too general.

My head is in the sand and my fingers are in my ears in relation to the cost of mine by the time I get it in the garage but it will certainly (err, hopefully?) start with a 6. I'm not expecting to lose money if/when I come to sell it.



Edited by renmure on Friday 10th May 23:02

200Plus Club

10,773 posts

279 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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renmure said:
You need to be a wee bit careful with over generalising the prices. I'm certainly no expert but I know that over the years there have been various kit so a Stratos replica that's for sale today could be a LB, a Hawk or one of another 2 or 3 manufacturers and the value in them is pretty much determined by the individual spec of each car.

My head is in the sand and my fingers are in my ears in relation to the cost of mine by the time I get it in the garage but it will certainly (err, hopefully?) start with a 6. I'm not expecting to lose money if/when I come to sell it.
Yes I'm talking purely in relation to the LB kits which to be fair fly off the shelves new and second hand. I can't speak for other marques that's true. Long term values unknown on these too, I suspect if the car is kept well you'll not lose your shirt tho and will have enjoyed the car tremendously