Fiesta ST MK7.5 Track car
Discussion
Enjoying this, fitted some Mountune springs on my sons ST last weekend, as well as a Mountune exhaust, not driven it yet myself but he says the ehxaust is ok, but the springs make a huge difference, better ride and feels more planted.
Like the I30N, I drove one and thought it felt like a bigger, faster Fiesta ST.
My dad is looking to change his car which is somethign that doesnt happen often, I think four times in my 48 years I can remember him changing, so he is looking at the I30N as well, wonder how it compares tot he Focus ST ?
Like the I30N, I drove one and thought it felt like a bigger, faster Fiesta ST.
My dad is looking to change his car which is somethign that doesnt happen often, I think four times in my 48 years I can remember him changing, so he is looking at the I30N as well, wonder how it compares tot he Focus ST ?
The Mountune set up is good but i will need some adjustment and a bit more track focused so have got some BC racing coilovers .
Iv got all the bits i need now so its just a matter of getting them all on and then getting this on its first track day .
Funny as its been with me as a back up car to all of our track days but never been on track its self .
Nurburgring
Nurburgring again
WP_20170807_15_51_00_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
Nurburgring three times a lady
Bedford GT
Castle combe
Brands Hatch
Brands Hatch again
On to the I30N i have only done 250 miles in the I30N but do love the thing and you are correct in that it does feel like a more focused fiesta but still has that ( it just feels right ) thing as soon as you start to drive it .
Regards
Iv got all the bits i need now so its just a matter of getting them all on and then getting this on its first track day .
Funny as its been with me as a back up car to all of our track days but never been on track its self .
Nurburgring
Nurburgring again
WP_20170807_15_51_00_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrNurburgring three times a lady
Bedford GT
Castle combe
Brands Hatch
Brands Hatch again
On to the I30N i have only done 250 miles in the I30N but do love the thing and you are correct in that it does feel like a more focused fiesta but still has that ( it just feels right ) thing as soon as you start to drive it .
Regards
J4CKO said:
Enjoying this, fitted some Mountune springs on my sons ST last weekend, as well as a Mountune exhaust, not driven it yet myself but he says the ehxaust is ok, but the springs make a huge difference, better ride and feels more planted.
Like the I30N, I drove one and thought it felt like a bigger, faster Fiesta ST.
My dad is looking to change his car which is something that doesnt happen often, I think four times in my 48 years I can remember him changing, so he is looking at the I30N as well, wonder how it compares tot he Focus ST ?
Like the I30N, I drove one and thought it felt like a bigger, faster Fiesta ST.
My dad is looking to change his car which is something that doesnt happen often, I think four times in my 48 years I can remember him changing, so he is looking at the I30N as well, wonder how it compares tot he Focus ST ?
I will be a proper build and cost a few quid and i will not cutting any corners and as you say doing the work my self cuts down on any labour costs .
sleepera6 said:
Blimey this is a devoted build. Looks pricey! I bet it will be an absolute weapon around the track when it’s done. Doing it all yourself too! I am like Mr Bean with a spanner.
Top job!
Top job!
Got the chance to inspect and replace the fuel cam bucket yesterday .
They wear over time and can cause issues with fuel pressure esp on a hybrid car and for £ 20.00 its silly not to inspect change .
New Ford cam bucket
HPFP that the cam bucket sits behind .
Old 3 year 21K mile cam bucket
Old vs new
There was not much were on the old bucket but its a cheep and easy swap and another thing that is now done .
They wear over time and can cause issues with fuel pressure esp on a hybrid car and for £ 20.00 its silly not to inspect change .
New Ford cam bucket
HPFP that the cam bucket sits behind .
Old 3 year 21K mile cam bucket
Old vs new
There was not much were on the old bucket but its a cheep and easy swap and another thing that is now done .
Just picked up my second ST, plan is to use it as a daily driver and the occasional trackday at places where the Evora is too loud. I am not going to do anything like the level of modification as you (and others) have posted on this thread but I have a specific question re brakes:
My thoughts are to use DS2500s and (potentially) upgrade the discs and definitely the fluid. On my old Clio 182 (must be close to a decade ago now!), I used to fit Brembo HC discs, but I can't seem to find them for the ST now. So, what would people recommend now, disc wise, and where to purchase them and the pads from? Am I right in thinking that they are an easy job to DIY on the drive with just a jack and a few tools?
I'll be sticking the MP215 on it shortly, and possibly the MR230 in a year. Don't think it needs a great deal more than that.
My thoughts are to use DS2500s and (potentially) upgrade the discs and definitely the fluid. On my old Clio 182 (must be close to a decade ago now!), I used to fit Brembo HC discs, but I can't seem to find them for the ST now. So, what would people recommend now, disc wise, and where to purchase them and the pads from? Am I right in thinking that they are an easy job to DIY on the drive with just a jack and a few tools?
I'll be sticking the MP215 on it shortly, and possibly the MR230 in a year. Don't think it needs a great deal more than that.
gashead1105 said:
Just picked up my second ST, plan is to use it as a daily driver and the occasional trackday at places where the Evora is too loud. I am not going to do anything like the level of modification as you (and others) have posted on this thread but I have a specific question re brakes:
My thoughts are to use DS2500s and (potentially) upgrade the discs and definitely the fluid. On my old Clio 182 (must be close to a decade ago now!), I used to fit Brembo HC discs, but I can't seem to find them for the ST now. So, what would people recommend now, disc wise, and where to purchase them and the pads from? Am I right in thinking that they are an easy job to DIY on the drive with just a jack and a few tools?
I'll be sticking the MP215 on it shortly, and possibly the MR230 in a year. Don't think it needs a great deal more than that.
I don't think you'll need to upgrade discs, the stock ones work fine as is. I only changed mine for looks!!!My thoughts are to use DS2500s and (potentially) upgrade the discs and definitely the fluid. On my old Clio 182 (must be close to a decade ago now!), I used to fit Brembo HC discs, but I can't seem to find them for the ST now. So, what would people recommend now, disc wise, and where to purchase them and the pads from? Am I right in thinking that they are an easy job to DIY on the drive with just a jack and a few tools?
I'll be sticking the MP215 on it shortly, and possibly the MR230 in a year. Don't think it needs a great deal more than that.
As for pads, I use DS2500 and they are good, but the ST wears through them really quick because of torque vectoring. I get about 1.5 track days out of a set. Next time I will try PBS ProComp pads which are a bit cheaper, but I reckon for a light car like the ST will work just as well.
My overall brake set up is:
Ferodo DS2500
EBC grooved discs
EBC Braided lines
Motul RBF660
Changing the brakes is easy, MarkCup does some easy to follow videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ5Q6-Ee0UQ
In regards to performance, I probably wouldn't go MR230. Mountune have been a bit flaky when it comes to recall issues such as recent coolant system recall. As far as i'm aware, they still haven't updated their map software for those who want recall work done.
A lot of forum people run Collins Performance CP2 map. It's not the fastest, but it's better than Mountune. It's kind of a "safe" map and with basic bolt ons should probably push 230-340hp (but will also run on a stock car).
The most important track mods (bar brakes) I found are an aftermarket intercooler and a limited slip differential. The rest you can do as and when.
alex98uk said:
I don't think you'll need to upgrade discs, the stock ones work fine as is. I only changed mine for looks!!!
As for pads, I use DS2500 and they are good, but the ST wears through them really quick because of torque vectoring. I get about 1.5 track days out of a set. Next time I will try PBS ProComp pads which are a bit cheaper, but I reckon for a light car like the ST will work just as well.
My overall brake set up is:
Ferodo DS2500
EBC grooved discs
EBC Braided lines
Motul RBF660
Changing the brakes is easy, MarkCup does some easy to follow videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ5Q6-Ee0UQ
In regards to performance, I probably wouldn't go MR230. Mountune have been a bit flaky when it comes to recall issues such as recent coolant system recall. As far as i'm aware, they still haven't updated their map software for those who want recall work done.
A lot of forum people run Collins Performance CP2 map. It's not the fastest, but it's better than Mountune. It's kind of a "safe" map and with basic bolt ons should probably push 230-340hp (but will also run on a stock car).
The most important track mods (bar brakes) I found are an aftermarket intercooler and a limited slip differential. The rest you can do as and when.
Thanks Alex. I think Mark used to have a Clio around the time I did! As for pads, I use DS2500 and they are good, but the ST wears through them really quick because of torque vectoring. I get about 1.5 track days out of a set. Next time I will try PBS ProComp pads which are a bit cheaper, but I reckon for a light car like the ST will work just as well.
My overall brake set up is:
Ferodo DS2500
EBC grooved discs
EBC Braided lines
Motul RBF660
Changing the brakes is easy, MarkCup does some easy to follow videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ5Q6-Ee0UQ
In regards to performance, I probably wouldn't go MR230. Mountune have been a bit flaky when it comes to recall issues such as recent coolant system recall. As far as i'm aware, they still haven't updated their map software for those who want recall work done.
A lot of forum people run Collins Performance CP2 map. It's not the fastest, but it's better than Mountune. It's kind of a "safe" map and with basic bolt ons should probably push 230-340hp (but will also run on a stock car).
The most important track mods (bar brakes) I found are an aftermarket intercooler and a limited slip differential. The rest you can do as and when.
Mine's a 66 plate and there are no recalls outstanding. I've read elsewhere about Collins and I'm not interested in going that way, or Peron for that matter.
Where do you get your brake upgrades from? I'll stick with standard discs if no reason to change performance wise (back in the Clio days it made a big difference!). I'm very happy with DS2500s, they're standard on the Evora and I used to get a whole season out of them on the Clio, doing up to 10Tds per year. Surprised the Fiesta gets through them so quickly!
If you are keeping the car to the same power levels as OEM then pads and fluid may be ok .
After talking with a few people who track there Fiesta ST the stock brake set up is fine for road and has good stopping power but it is the heat that is the problem on track .
DS2500 i would not run on track as i see them as a more fast road pad and are out of the depth on track so Endless or Pagid RS29 pads are what people run on the stock brake set up but they are not cheep at £ 300 + .
The other option is a big brake kit and this is what i will be running as with my set up the stock brakes will not cope .
Regards
After talking with a few people who track there Fiesta ST the stock brake set up is fine for road and has good stopping power but it is the heat that is the problem on track .
DS2500 i would not run on track as i see them as a more fast road pad and are out of the depth on track so Endless or Pagid RS29 pads are what people run on the stock brake set up but they are not cheep at £ 300 + .
The other option is a big brake kit and this is what i will be running as with my set up the stock brakes will not cope .
Regards
gashead1105 said:
Thanks Alex. I think Mark used to have a Clio around the time I did!
Mine's a 66 plate and there are no recalls outstanding. I've read elsewhere about Collins and I'm not interested in going that way, or Peron for that matter.
Where do you get your brake upgrades from? I'll stick with standard discs if no reason to change performance wise (back in the Clio days it made a big difference!). I'm very happy with DS2500s, they're standard on the Evora and I used to get a whole season out of them on the Clio, doing up to 10Tds per year. Surprised the Fiesta gets through them so quickly!
Mine's a 66 plate and there are no recalls outstanding. I've read elsewhere about Collins and I'm not interested in going that way, or Peron for that matter.
Where do you get your brake upgrades from? I'll stick with standard discs if no reason to change performance wise (back in the Clio days it made a big difference!). I'm very happy with DS2500s, they're standard on the Evora and I used to get a whole season out of them on the Clio, doing up to 10Tds per year. Surprised the Fiesta gets through them so quickly!
gashead1105 said:
Thanks Alex. I think Mark used to have a Clio around the time I did!
Mine's a 66 plate and there are no recalls outstanding. I've read elsewhere about Collins and I'm not interested in going that way, or Peron for that matter.
Where do you get your brake upgrades from? I'll stick with standard discs if no reason to change performance wise (back in the Clio days it made a big difference!). I'm very happy with DS2500s, they're standard on the Evora and I used to get a whole season out of them on the Clio, doing up to 10Tds per year. Surprised the Fiesta gets through them so quickly!
Fair enough, I have found the DS2500 to be a good pad. Never had fade or quality issues with them, just interested to shop around a little! The brake pad options used to be quite slim, but it seems a lot more companies are now making them. Mine's a 66 plate and there are no recalls outstanding. I've read elsewhere about Collins and I'm not interested in going that way, or Peron for that matter.
Where do you get your brake upgrades from? I'll stick with standard discs if no reason to change performance wise (back in the Clio days it made a big difference!). I'm very happy with DS2500s, they're standard on the Evora and I used to get a whole season out of them on the Clio, doing up to 10Tds per year. Surprised the Fiesta gets through them so quickly!
My friend in his MX5 will get 4-5 track days out of a single set of pads, makes me jealous. The real killer is torque vectoring, which more expensive or RWD cars don't really have. It's designed to act as an electronic diff, by applying brake to the inside wheel during cornering. So, the wear rate shoots up because the brakes are being utilised even when you're not in the brakes! Only way around this is an aftermarket ABS module from Ford Racing... and that takes some proper set up.
I think i've bought everything from either EBC directly or Demon Tweeks. It's all the same stuff in the end! I have looked at more expensive pads as kaveney recommended, but I think if I were paying £300 for a set of endruance/race pads, i'd just go the whole hog and get a BBK. Also, I have hesitations over using race pads on a car I still use on the road.
In regards to Collins map, they are a well known name. Been around for many a year specialising in fast Fords. I have had their map on my car for a few years now without issue. But, understandable if you want to keep with Mountune... just note I don't think MR230 qualifies for a warranty (assuming you have a tiny bit left on a late '16 plate car).
kaveney said:
Many thanks i still have a lot to do but hope to have this done and be on track in early August at Castle Combe .
I'd really love to try combe. It's the closest circuit to me here in Bristol... but funnily enough, it's the only track in the UK that my insurer (A-Plan) won't cover! I guess it's the speed and lack of run off that does it.I agree that the Collins CP2 map is very good and i ran this for around 6 months with no issues .
alex98uk said:
Fair enough, I have found the DS2500 to be a good pad. Never had fade or quality issues with them, just interested to shop around a little! The brake pad options used to be quite slim, but it seems a lot more companies are now making them.
My friend in his MX5 will get 4-5 track days out of a single set of pads, makes me jealous. The real killer is torque vectoring, which more expensive or RWD cars don't really have. It's designed to act as an electronic diff, by applying brake to the inside wheel during cornering. So, the wear rate shoots up because the brakes are being utilised even when you're not in the brakes! Only way around this is an aftermarket ABS module from Ford Racing... and that takes some proper set up.
I think i've bought everything from either EBC directly or Demon Tweeks. It's all the same stuff in the end! I have looked at more expensive pads as kaveney recommended, but I think if I were paying £300 for a set of endruance/race pads, i'd just go the whole hog and get a BBK. Also, I have hesitations over using race pads on a car I still use on the road.
In regards to Collins map, they are a well known name. Been around for many a year specialising in fast Fords. I have had their map on my car for a few years now without issue. But, understandable if you want to keep with Mountune... just note I don't think MR230 qualifies for a warranty (assuming you have a tiny bit left on a late '16 plate car).
My friend in his MX5 will get 4-5 track days out of a single set of pads, makes me jealous. The real killer is torque vectoring, which more expensive or RWD cars don't really have. It's designed to act as an electronic diff, by applying brake to the inside wheel during cornering. So, the wear rate shoots up because the brakes are being utilised even when you're not in the brakes! Only way around this is an aftermarket ABS module from Ford Racing... and that takes some proper set up.
I think i've bought everything from either EBC directly or Demon Tweeks. It's all the same stuff in the end! I have looked at more expensive pads as kaveney recommended, but I think if I were paying £300 for a set of endruance/race pads, i'd just go the whole hog and get a BBK. Also, I have hesitations over using race pads on a car I still use on the road.
In regards to Collins map, they are a well known name. Been around for many a year specialising in fast Fords. I have had their map on my car for a few years now without issue. But, understandable if you want to keep with Mountune... just note I don't think MR230 qualifies for a warranty (assuming you have a tiny bit left on a late '16 plate car).
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