The return of my E60 M5 - Wallet drained - now Supercharged!

The return of my E60 M5 - Wallet drained - now Supercharged!

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RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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I had an M6 when it first came out. Amazing engine- one of the best I have ever owned.
Here is an old vid I made of taking it up to maximum speed........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I

TheAngryDog

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12,407 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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RDMcG said:
I had an M6 when it first came out. Amazing engine- one of the best I have ever owned.
Here is an old vid I made of taking it up to maximum speed........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
Nice, they do quite well at the top end these.

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I've just ordered a pair of front tyres as I think they're slightly out of shape due to a wobble I get through the steering wheel. It is a shame as these tyres had a fair bit of life left in them, but it is what it is. I have gone for trusty Vredestein Ultrac Vorti's. I like Vredestein tyres and had used them many times since 2013.

Biker's Nemesis

38,653 posts

208 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Pleased to hear Mr Lewis sorted your car. He's very studious I everything he does including racing his motorbike. I've spent an enjoyable trip abroad or the uk with him.

TheAngryDog

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12,407 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Pleased to hear Mr Lewis sorted your car. He's very studious I everything he does including racing his motorbike. I've spent an enjoyable trip abroad or the uk with him.
Yeah he's a good guy. He had the unenviable job of sorting out the mess. Nearly 1200 miles in and it's running fine.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
Yeah he's a good guy. He had the unenviable job of sorting out the mess. Nearly 1200 miles in and it's running fine.
I asked you some posts back if the car had been deliberately damaged. You said it had. Sorry if I missed it, but was there any come back on that?

TheAngryDog

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12,407 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
TheAngryDog said:
Yeah he's a good guy. He had the unenviable job of sorting out the mess. Nearly 1200 miles in and it's running fine.
I asked you some posts back if the car had been deliberately damaged. You said it had. Sorry if I missed it, but was there any come back on that?
Not currently. The issue is proving it.

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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I was pleased to see this come back to life and especially pleased to see Mr Vanos is the hero of the tale!

My brothers engine let go (at considerable speed) and the quotes for rebuilds were from the worrying ebayers £6-8k, to the £16k plus VAT at the well known specialists.
He bought a replacement low mileage V10 which has been shipped to Mr Vanos for the bearings to be done, the car is following up in a little while so that the new engine can be installed

As it stands this looks like it's going to be £6k - 7k hit which sounds better than the iffy rebuild or the full price quotes from elsewhere.

Pommy

14,253 posts

216 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Question - once all the big issues have been fixed on an e60 M5, at say a £10-15k cost, does that mean the car is good to go for another 80-100k miles?

TheAngryDog

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12,407 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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IanJ9375 said:
I was pleased to see this come back to life and especially pleased to see Mr Vanos is the hero of the tale!

My brothers engine let go (at considerable speed) and the quotes for rebuilds were from the worrying ebayers £6-8k, to the £16k plus VAT at the well known specialists.
He bought a replacement low mileage V10 which has been shipped to Mr Vanos for the bearings to be done, the car is following up in a little while so that the new engine can be installed

As it stands this looks like it's going to be £6k - 7k hit which sounds better than the iffy rebuild or the full price quotes from elsewhere.
Cheers. Someone had to be the hero. He was glad to see the back of my car though, he didn't like the reason why he was doing the work (good money after bad etc, which is admirable).

I did consider the 2nd hand engine option, but the costs for labour etc to have it fitted worked out not much less than it was going to cost for a rebuild / new crank. Is your brother on the FB M5 Group? Good that he is getting it sorted.

Pommy said:
Question - once all the big issues have been fixed on an e60 M5, at say a £10-15k cost, does that mean the car is good to go for another 80-100k miles?
I'd say 60k for the bearings, only because they are a known issue. Clutch as well maybe, depending on how it is driven. The car should still be good for at least 30k miles when I eventually sell it.

Andy665

3,622 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Are the rod bearings on the V10 such a common issue or is it one of those things that can affect some but most are fine?

Only asking as I'm researching whether to go for a M6 V10 or a CL63 and know that apart from the very early Mercedes 6.2 litre engines they are pretty bulletproof

Edited by Andy665 on Tuesday 9th July 15:07

TheAngryDog

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12,407 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Andy665 said:
Are the rod bearings on the V10 such a common issue or is it one of those things that can affect some but most are fine?

Only asking as I'm researching whether to go for a M6 V10 or a CL63
They're an issue on all cars at some point, but they're a relatively inexpensive job if done before failure. Some high miles cars are fine - I know of a few that are over 100k and not been changed.

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
IanJ9375 said:
I was pleased to see this come back to life and especially pleased to see Mr Vanos is the hero of the tale!

My brothers engine let go (at considerable speed) and the quotes for rebuilds were from the worrying ebayers £6-8k, to the £16k plus VAT at the well known specialists.
He bought a replacement low mileage V10 which has been shipped to Mr Vanos for the bearings to be done, the car is following up in a little while so that the new engine can be installed

As it stands this looks like it's going to be £6k - 7k hit which sounds better than the iffy rebuild or the full price quotes from elsewhere.
Cheers. Someone had to be the hero. He was glad to see the back of my car though, he didn't like the reason why he was doing the work (good money after bad etc, which is admirable).

I did consider the 2nd hand engine option, but the costs for labour etc to have it fitted worked out not much less than it was going to cost for a rebuild / new crank. Is your brother on the FB M5 Group? Good that he is getting it sorted.
No he's not on FB or any forum, I normally get asked to go digging if any info is needed but I might just join that myself for any future info.
He'll be glad to get it back as he loves the car and has owned it for what must 7 if not 8 years now, once the engine is sorted he's on to get the bumpers done to tidy it up


TheAngryDog

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12,407 posts

209 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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IanJ9375 said:
No he's not on FB or any forum, I normally get asked to go digging if any info is needed but I might just join that myself for any future info.
He'll be glad to get it back as he loves the car and has owned it for what must 7 if not 8 years now, once the engine is sorted he's on to get the bumpers done to tidy it up
Ha, the forums and FB can be quite "interesting", so perhaps he is best off out of it hehe

Just ordered new fuel pumps, filter etc. Another £440 down the drain...

TheAngryDog

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12,407 posts

209 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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Oil and filter changed today, engine all run in. One the fuel pumps are done I will be able to open it up fully.

For anyone interested, the oil is 10w50 Fuchs Titan Race Pro.

Next oil change in 5k miles.

TheAngryDog

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12,407 posts

209 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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New tyres arrived today. Vredestein Ultrac Vortis for the fronts.

Also found out today that BMW has issued a recall for the E60, sounds like battery cable related.

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
New tyres arrived today. Vredestein Ultrac Vortis for the fronts.

Also found out today that BMW has issued a recall for the E60, sounds like battery cable related.
Is it across all years? If you have the recall details I'll pass it on, ta

TheAngryDog

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12,407 posts

209 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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IanJ9375 said:
TheAngryDog said:
New tyres arrived today. Vredestein Ultrac Vortis for the fronts.

Also found out today that BMW has issued a recall for the E60, sounds like battery cable related.
Is it across all years? If you have the recall details I'll pass it on, ta
The dealer's don't know much about it yet, it was announced today I believe. Best thing he can do is to call his local dealer.

TheAngryDog

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12,407 posts

209 months

Friday 12th July 2019
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Amazing. The fking thing won't start this morning.

It turned over, caught, ran lumpy and then died, as if it was out of fuel. I suspect either fuse, relay, lower on fuel than the gauge shows (1/4 tank) or pumps.
The car ran fine on Wednesday and gave zero indication that it was going to do this.

FFS.

RazerSauber

2,280 posts

60 months

Friday 12th July 2019
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Oh no! Have you got a breakdown service to come and check it out?

TheAngryDog

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12,407 posts

209 months

Friday 12th July 2019
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RazerSauber said:
Oh no! Have you got a breakdown service to come and check it out?
I have, but I don't think they will be of any use tbh. It will be one of the issues I listed above so just need to work through them. If the pump doesn't prime then I need to check the fuses and then see if I can hear the relay module doing anything (if it is supposed to make a noise). Then if all that is fine then it'll be the pumps.