A Reckless V10 Purchase

[Macron]

Nightmare.

I'm sure you could sell it for what you paid. It still has a list of faults. Just a different one to that you started with

[Escy]

Touareg ownership is an ever changing list of faults

[TonyRPH]

This makes an older Porsche Cayenne look like really good value for money...

[V8RX7]

Escy said:

Touareg ownership is an ever changing list of faults

^^^ This is the conclusion I've come to with various older, complicated cars.

I bought my wife an X5 and it broke a never ending list of things faster than I could fix them

[ndtman]

Evanivitch said:

That usually means you loose an injector, which is far more noticeable than limp mode!!

Nope, BMR engine, boost control. No symptoms since the bodge. Regardless I was pointing out wiring issues that could be causing some of the OP's issues.

[Art0ir]

V8RX7 said:

^^^ This is the conclusion I've come to with various older, complicated cars.

I bought my wife an X5 and it broke a never ending list of things faster than I could fix them

The trick, I'm coming to learn, is to live with a handful of minor faults that don't really affect day to day driving instead of tempting the barge gods by trying to fix everything.

[V8RX7]

Art0ir said:

The trick, I'm coming to learn, is to live with a handful of minor faults that don't really affect day to day driving instead of tempting the barge gods by trying to fix everything.

Perhaps but:

The driver's seat not moving when my wife is nearly 1' shorter...

The expansion tank blew...

The electrics - as in ALL electrics stopped working

Engine light....

Airbag light...

It was worse than a RR !

[Tin Hat]

Escy said:

Yeah, i'll test the wiring with a multi meter, if I do decide to fix it.

I've had a nightmare this evening, collected some cardboard from Halfords, the boot wouldn't open (from the key, handle or button inside), so I put the back seat down and was crawling through to see if I could open it from inside, I couldn't but when I got out of the car, closed the door and then the doors locked. That's strange because they don't usually self lock. Predictably the keys had fallen out of my pocket when I was crawling around in the boot and now I was locked out. I don't have a spare key so knew straight away I was going to have to break in. As I was at Halfords I could borrow a hammer and screwdriver, I made the wrong choice to try and hammer the door lock. I mashed it up, dented the door in and didn't get anywhere so plan B was to put the window through (this would have been plan A but it was raining). Smashing a window with a hammer isn't as easy as i'd expected. I had a few strikes and it bounced off. A shady looking bloke about 60 on a mobility scooter came past and wanted to have a go, I let him and he did it first time, I think he's done that before! It's made a right mess, the glass goes everywhere.



I also noticed it's developed an air leak from the drivers side front shock. I'm starting to think it's time to strip it for parts and get my money back out of it.

Hammer the door lock........

That aside, respect to you sir, your experiences are most entertaining and the world is a far better place with the adventurous spicing it up a bit.

[ChocolateFrog]

Ah that's gutting.

It does sound like these things kill your enthusiasm by a 1000 cuts rather than a catastrophic failure. Unless it's the gearbox but most of those failures seem to be as a result of remapping.

[Escy]

Tin Hat said:

Hammer the door lock........

That aside, respect to you sir, your experiences are most entertaining and the world is a far better place with the adventurous spicing it up a bit.

I'm glad it's fun for you!

Changing the glass on a Friday evening in a storm wasn't much fun. Because it was dark and wet and I was pissed off I did a right hack job of it, the crow bar was my friend. For some reason they rivet in the top section of the door frame when they could just use bolts.

Talking of the gearbox, mine is nice when cold but as it warms up it holds onto gears too long and occasionally bangs on a 3rd to 2nd downshift. Pretty sure fresh oil would solve it but it won't be getting any.

I don't mind fixing issues but it's got the turbo actuator issue, leaking air suspension and jerky gearbox so pretty sure i'm going to carve it up for parts in a few months time. I kind of expected it to go this way but I bought it at the right money so it's no big deal.

[anonymous-user]

This thread just remineded me of an article about them. I guess you don't buy this car to save money.

https://jalopnik.com/the-volkswagen-touareg-v10-td...

[V8RX7]

Thesprucegoose said:

This thread just remineded me of an article about them. I guess you don't buy this car to save money.

https://jalopnik.com/the-volkswagen-touareg-v10-td...

Not sure if I mentioned it but my mate was one of the professional drivers who VW paid to show new owners how to drive them and what they could do.

IIRC he said they changed them every 6 months as the hard use took it's toll and that whilst they were fun "you don't want to buy one with your own money"

[ChocolateFrog]

V8RX7 said:

Thesprucegoose said:

This thread just remineded me of an article about them. I guess you don't buy this car to save money.

https://jalopnik.com/the-volkswagen-touareg-v10-td...

Not sure if I mentioned it but my mate was one of the professional drivers who VW paid to show new owners how to drive them and what they could do.

IIRC he said they changed them every 6 months as the hard use took it's toll and that whilst they were fun "you don't want to buy one with your own money"

It's the fact they're under £3k now that makes them enticing. They're about £10k cheaper than a similarly specced Q7 4.2TDI that's maybe 2 or 3 years newer, that's what keeps them in the maybe pile when car shopping.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Saturday 12th October 14:59

[Hereward]

Sorry to hear of your woes. I have a 2003 Touareg - a simple Audi petrol V8. I've had the car for over 12 years, I think, and cannot bear to part with it.

You may have seen this before, a V10 re-build. Looks utterly terrifying yet amazing in equal measure:
https://www.clubtouareg.com/threads/diy-v10-teardo...

Edited by Hereward on Saturday 12th October 22:24

[Escy]

The adventure ends here. I sold it last night. I advertised it on Facebook during the morning for £2000, stated the issues (turbo actuators, gearbox rough when warm, leaking air suspension). Had someone come in the evening for it, agreed a price of £1800. I paid £1700, spend about £100 on parts for it so got out of it for what it owed me.

When I bought it the turbo actuator issue happened once in a 100 mile journey, by the time I got rid I was lucky to get a mile without it being in limp mode. The gearbox was fine when warm and the air suspension wasn't leaking either. I also butchered the door lock during my efforts to get into it when I locked the key inside It really deteriorated in my brief ownership. I didn't have time to sort it out so I was glad to see the back of it. You can imagine the money you'd need to sink into a car like this if you actually tried to maintain it, especially if you had to take it to a garage.

I didn't regret the purchase, it was brilliant to drive when the turbos worked, a total beast. Glad I got the chance to own it, I think a 5L V10 diesel engine will be the stuff of legend in 20 years time when we are all driving around in electric cars.

As soon as I sold it, I went off to buy a replacement, a 2007 Audi A6 Allroad 3.0 TDI, it'll probably end up being just as much trouble as the Toe-Rag was. I'll get a commercial vehicle for business needs when the time comes.

[S100HP]

Shame it's gone. Someone opposite my MIL owns a blue 03 plate. Never seems to move much!

[TonyRPH]

S100HP said:

Shame it's gone. Someone opposite my MIL owns a blue 03 plate. Never seems to move much!

Probably frightened to drive it, for fear of something (else?) breaking lol.

[Michaelbailey]

Escy said:

As soon as I sold it, I went off to buy a replacement, a 2007 Audi A6 Allroad 3.0 TDI, it'll probably end up being just as much trouble as the Toe-Rag was. I'll get a commercial vehicle for business needs when the time comes.

Sad it didn't get used as intended but like you say an experience essentially for free aint too bad. I believe the audi will give you less jip and should in the real world do everything that toe rag would.

[OldGermanHeaps]

decent remap on the audi and it should feal as grunty as the toerag much of the time

[Escy]

The Audi goes pretty well, I need to log it and see what boost it's running. I've never driven one before but the guy I bought it from says it goes better than the one he owned before so maybe it's been remapped.