“It's just a daily” - Renaultsport Clio 182
Discussion
frayz said:
Thanks Ben, they feel good but not sure i like the RP1 pads that much. They feel a bit in consistent to me, so i'll probably swap them out for RSL29 again as i had in the old calipers. 29s just feel right all the time to me.
I'm running PBS Pro Track pads front and back on my Megane now – they're a great improvement from OEM and bite instantly from cold too on the road. No squealing either, very impressed!
I've caved and literally just ordered some Pagids. This time trying the RSL2 as opposed to the 29.
Basically a 29 but a bit more. Cost more than most Clios but theres a reason ive been running Pagids all these years, as soon as i tried to save some cash, i wasnt happy.
Never run the PBS myself, but i hear plenty of folk like them, glad they're working for you.
Basically a 29 but a bit more. Cost more than most Clios but theres a reason ive been running Pagids all these years, as soon as i tried to save some cash, i wasnt happy.
Never run the PBS myself, but i hear plenty of folk like them, glad they're working for you.
The newer siloxanes are a step above the old pads in *everything* - don't think you'll regret it, the siloxane based Ferodo's are the same, I don't know why they even bother still selling the old 2500/3000, etc.
I had similar with Bluestuff, I liked them, until the one time I got them a bit too warm - after that no matter what I did with them it was a lottery if they were there or not, no matter what temperature they were at.
I had similar with Bluestuff, I liked them, until the one time I got them a bit too warm - after that no matter what I did with them it was a lottery if they were there or not, no matter what temperature they were at.
frayz said:
I've caved and literally just ordered some Pagids. This time trying the RSL2 as opposed to the 29.
Basically a 29 but a bit more. Cost more than most Clios but theres a reason ive been running Pagids all these years, as soon as i tried to save some cash, i wasnt happy.
Never run the PBS myself, but i hear plenty of folk like them, glad they're working for you.
Thanks frayz, look forward to hearing how you get on with them.Basically a 29 but a bit more. Cost more than most Clios but theres a reason ive been running Pagids all these years, as soon as i tried to save some cash, i wasnt happy.
Never run the PBS myself, but i hear plenty of folk like them, glad they're working for you.
PhillipM said:
The newer siloxanes are a step above the old pads in *everything* - don't think you'll regret it, the siloxane based Ferodo's are the same, I don't know why they even bother still selling the old 2500/3000, etc.
I had similar with Bluestuff, I liked them, until the one time I got them a bit too warm - after that no matter what I did with them it was a lottery if they were there or not, no matter what temperature they were at.
That’s exactly how these feel Phillip. I don’t feel confident in them being there at all. I had similar with Bluestuff, I liked them, until the one time I got them a bit too warm - after that no matter what I did with them it was a lottery if they were there or not, no matter what temperature they were at.
Yeah, those NDX's felt okay, they were like a 2500 or 1144 just with more bite but I didn't even fade them on a track session, never got to one - it was just a hard stop for someone on the wrong side of the road and they went to s
t after. Even sanding them back to fresh material never got them back.
t after. Even sanding them back to fresh material never got them back.Edited by PhillipM on Tuesday 19th April 18:43
Great car and a great thread.
These RS Clios do get under your skin. I bought a new Clio 172 back in 2003 and I just thought it was the best thing. I didn't quite appreciate how good a car it was I just liked it being quick, well spec'd and a bit different.
I've had a number of cars since, faster, I suppose more capable etc. I actually ended up buying an identical 172, 10 years later for £500, spent a load of money on it but loved it. If I had the money and the space to spare, I'd have another one in a heartbeat.
Also, great colour Inferno. I have a Megane 225 in the same colour.
These RS Clios do get under your skin. I bought a new Clio 172 back in 2003 and I just thought it was the best thing. I didn't quite appreciate how good a car it was I just liked it being quick, well spec'd and a bit different.
I've had a number of cars since, faster, I suppose more capable etc. I actually ended up buying an identical 172, 10 years later for £500, spent a load of money on it but loved it. If I had the money and the space to spare, I'd have another one in a heartbeat.
Also, great colour Inferno. I have a Megane 225 in the same colour.
Alex_225 said:
Great car and a great thread.
These RS Clios do get under your skin. I bought a new Clio 172 back in 2003 and I just thought it was the best thing. I didn't quite appreciate how good a car it was I just liked it being quick, well spec'd and a bit different.
I've had a number of cars since, faster, I suppose more capable etc. I actually ended up buying an identical 172, 10 years later for £500, spent a load of money on it but loved it. If I had the money and the space to spare, I'd have another one in a heartbeat.
Also, great colour Inferno. I have a Megane 225 in the same colour.
Thanks Alex, they certainly do get under your skin. It often crosses my mind i should maybe drive something newer, quieter, more refined etc but there just isnt anything modern within a budget id want to spend that interests me. Sure id love a Megane and go down a similar path, (Poles, CAE, light engine tune, dampers/brake package etc). But in reality i'll be going faster, spending more money and using more fuel for what i know would be no extra enjoyment over what i have. These RS Clios do get under your skin. I bought a new Clio 172 back in 2003 and I just thought it was the best thing. I didn't quite appreciate how good a car it was I just liked it being quick, well spec'd and a bit different.
I've had a number of cars since, faster, I suppose more capable etc. I actually ended up buying an identical 172, 10 years later for £500, spent a load of money on it but loved it. If I had the money and the space to spare, I'd have another one in a heartbeat.
Also, great colour Inferno. I have a Megane 225 in the same colour.
Even my Cayman R, yes its in a different performance league to the little Clio, but i never drive the Clio and feel like ive been short changed.
In fact, every time i drive the Clio, i feel like its still so exciting and fun. Now its getting on a bit, people notice it too and i often get people compliment it or stop me at a shop/fuel station.
Nobody ever does that in the Cayman R. Lol.
Great thread. Went to test drive a black 182 yesterday that was described as ‘one of the best’. Didn’t have any rust on it but every panel had a ding and a wheel arch was scuffed. Engine idled rough and the EML kept coming on sporadically. It also drove pretty poorly.
Getting hard to find a nice one it seems.
Getting hard to find a nice one it seems.
Gilhooligan said:
Great thread. Went to test drive a black 182 yesterday that was described as ‘one of the best’. Didn’t have any rust on it but every panel had a ding and a wheel arch was scuffed. Engine idled rough and the EML kept coming on sporadically. It also drove pretty poorly.
Getting hard to find a nice one it seems.
Yeah I'm afraid to say you're right there. So many have been trashed and mistreated that good ones really are like hens teeth now. All id say is don't pay attention to mileage on them, purely buy on condition and history with all the right service parts done. Getting hard to find a nice one it seems.
Dings can mostly be sorted by a good PDR guy. EMLs are usually due to the cars being de-catted without being remapped to suit and the rough idle is pretty standard I'm afraid. My cars idle is grumpier since the light weight flywheel too lol.
I keep planning on getting mine remapped but never seem to get around to it. They do drive a heap better ie cleaner and smoother with a map, even if they make little to no more power.
When I bought mine I went the other way. I bought a knowingly rough one cheaply and then worked though the issues. As long as they're not rusty and the engine is OK there's no that much that's too expensive to go wrong. Gearboxes and Belts/dephasers are about the most pricey thing that you'll have to do.
Cambs_Stuart said:
When I bought mine I went the other way. I bought a knowingly rough one cheaply and then worked though the issues. As long as they're not rusty and the engine is OK there's no that much that's too expensive to go wrong. Gearboxes and Belts/dephasers are about the most pricey thing that you'll have to do.
Very true Stu. I think body condition and corrosion will now be the big hitters on anyone looking to buy these days. The rest is easy to fix. frayz said:
Cambs_Stuart said:
When I bought mine I went the other way. I bought a knowingly rough one cheaply and then worked though the issues. As long as they're not rusty and the engine is OK there's no that much that's too expensive to go wrong. Gearboxes and Belts/dephasers are about the most pricey thing that you'll have to do.
Very true Stu. I think body condition and corrosion will now be the big hitters on anyone looking to buy these days. The rest is easy to fix. Rust is indeed a concern but saying that, I've seen cars with less than 10 years with serious corrosion underneath with all the salt we get on the roads every winter.
frayz said:
Thanks Alex, they certainly do get under your skin. It often crosses my mind i should maybe drive something newer, quieter, more refined etc but there just isnt anything modern within a budget id want to spend that interests me. Sure id love a Megane and go down a similar path, (Poles, CAE, light engine tune, dampers/brake package etc). But in reality i'll be going faster, spending more money and using more fuel for what i know would be no extra enjoyment over what i have.
Even my Cayman R, yes its in a different performance league to the little Clio, but i never drive the Clio and feel like ive been short changed.
In fact, every time i drive the Clio, i feel like its still so exciting and fun. Now its getting on a bit, people notice it too and i often get people compliment it or stop me at a shop/fuel station.
Nobody ever does that in the Cayman R. Lol.
They really do, that power to weight ratio they have is ideal for getting real driving enjoyment without being silly. I replaced my last 172 with a mapped Megane 225 Trophy and that was equally capable but more refined and quicker but not by default more fun. Even my Cayman R, yes its in a different performance league to the little Clio, but i never drive the Clio and feel like ive been short changed.
In fact, every time i drive the Clio, i feel like its still so exciting and fun. Now its getting on a bit, people notice it too and i often get people compliment it or stop me at a shop/fuel station.
Nobody ever does that in the Cayman R. Lol.
Funnily enough I have a Merc CLS63 which is silly fast and a Twingo 133 which isn't but like the Clio just makes you smile.
Funnily I've found driving smaller, nice looking cars I've receive more complements than in I suppose more flashy stuff.
Small update tonight.
After 2 weeks driving on the RP1s I’d decided they just weren’t feeling the way I wanted the car to feel. I used Pagid RSL 29s in the OEM calipers and I’ve used 29s in all my cars. I just like the way the Pagids feel so I’ve opted to just pull the trigger on a new set. The RSL range has been developed into improved compounds now with the addition of the RSL 2 and 2E so opted for a set of RSL 2s.
Cost the same as a Clio but the pad and rotor life is amazing so I’m happy with that.
RP1s out after just over 2 weeks lol, RSL 2s in and all was right with the world again. 😅
After 2 weeks driving on the RP1s I’d decided they just weren’t feeling the way I wanted the car to feel. I used Pagid RSL 29s in the OEM calipers and I’ve used 29s in all my cars. I just like the way the Pagids feel so I’ve opted to just pull the trigger on a new set. The RSL range has been developed into improved compounds now with the addition of the RSL 2 and 2E so opted for a set of RSL 2s.
Cost the same as a Clio but the pad and rotor life is amazing so I’m happy with that.
RP1s out after just over 2 weeks lol, RSL 2s in and all was right with the world again. 😅
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