Just won a car - but not entirely happy

Just won a car - but not entirely happy

Author
Discussion

kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
A knackered Escalade

rich12

3,465 posts

155 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
Half 9 already and no car?
It's already in NI FFS.

CrunkleFloop

773 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
rich12 said:
Half 9 already and no car?
It's already in NI FFS.
Bin collections are a little later in NI

pidsy

8,007 posts

158 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
WE WANT CAR! WE WANT CAR! WE WANT CAR! WE WANT CAR!


rich12

3,465 posts

155 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
Sounds... 'raspy'
https://youtu.be/5rQXC66Gvdc?t=43

Apparently the car was only up there for less than a day so probably explains why the windows were open and lights on.


Edited by rich12 on Wednesday 21st August 09:42

housen

2,366 posts

193 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
kowalski655 said:
A knackered Escalade
thx mate


this is a very very sad story indeed

Barry Homo

2,552 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
Get yourself on eBay and order a couple of Hong Kong hurricanes. You could get this thing running 1000hp for a bit I reckon.

Lazermilk

3,523 posts

82 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
S100HP said:
JB! said:
In for the pictures of a trashy niece...
EFA


Edited by S100HP on Wednesday 21st August 09:26
whistle

The pinterest or instagram pages are good, better photos there hehe

bristolbaron

4,838 posts

213 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
CharlesdeGaulle said:
She appears to have a furry bin.
Having searched further for other images I can confirm she doesn’t.. biglaugh

Bumblebee7

1,527 posts

76 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
sparks_190e said:
Reminds me of a story I read about a woman who got 5 numbers on the lottery and assumed it meant big bucks. She went round telling her kids she'd buy them each a house and she'll be able to pay her mortgage off, amazing holidays etc . Called Camelot and they informed her she won £900.

Or something like that, was a long time ago. Think I read it on here.
That's quite funny actually, nothing like counting your chickens before they've hatched...

supercommuter

2,169 posts

103 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
OK, where is the car?

Sunny in Dubai

74 posts

75 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
While we are waiting any other offerings to brighten up the morning, but not pulling a fluffy bin?

soupdragon1

Original Poster:

4,069 posts

98 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
ok. We've another plot twist on our hands.

No car today!

Yesterday afternoon, I asked them to hold off on delivery as I was unable to find anyone to ensure me. A few hours later, I went back and said to deliver it anyway and I'll just keep it in my driveway until insurance gets sorted.

But on top of that, and based on some advice from previous posters (thanks) I've went onto the ASA website for a nosey, as well as trading standards. The ASA had a few articles on online competitions, promotions, general standards etc.

Reading through this, in my view, PP haven't ran the competition in line with how they maybe should have. Rather than type all that out, I'll just copy and paste the email I've sent to PP this morning.



Hi xxxxxxx

It’s not looking good for me getting insurance and being in N Ireland rules me out of using out many specialist insurers. I’m going to keep trying but it’s looking like I may have to take delivery without insurance in place. I’m available Thu/Fri this week, Mon, Thu and Fri of next week too and most of the following week bar Monday.

On another note, I think it’s only right that I should share that I’ve contacted ASA with a complaint about how the competition led me to believe I had won a prize of more significance. While you quite rightly point out that the T’s and C’s say the car is a 2003 Cadillac Escalade, Paddy Power have implied that it’s a car of more significant value. In the 1st instance, at the initial competition entry phase, there is clearly a computer generated image of a Mark III (2006-2013) Cadillac Escalate along with the caption win Tiger Woods crashed car* (not the actual one, this one has fewer dents and complimentary clubs in the boot) T&C’s apply

ASA state that significant T&C’s should be on the initial page of the promotion rather than in the T&C’s and while Paddy Power have done that for stating that it’s not Tigers actual car, there is no mention that it’s a completely different model year (mark II) than the Mark III in the promotional picture. It’s reasonable to assume that the prize, on initial entry, is a more modern Mark III escalade. Tiger Woods was driving a Mark III Cadillac when he had his famous crash, and the picture shows a Mark III car, and the ad is to win Tigers Crashed Car (just that it’s not the one Tiger actually drove)

Further to this, on the same twitter thread, there is also a video that shows the making of the ad, and while the actual car is shown in this video, it only shows little bits of it, like the wheels, the LED lights at the back, the modern grill and upgraded lights at the front. Again, this would lead you to believe that the car is more modern because these types of features wouldn’t normally be seen on a car of that age. Again, reasonable assumption that indeed, the prize is a more modern car. I’ve discovered that these are aftermarket upgrades - they make the car look fresher.

Then lastly, when the live draw was done, it was clearly stated that I was the winner, and I had won a Cadillac Escalade worth about £30 grand. Do what you want with it, stick it on eBay, insure it etc etc – congratulations Brian.

Clearly, I celebrate winning a £30k car. Both me, and the watching general public, have been given the perception of a different prize than the one I’ve ultimately received. Tiger crashed a Mark III Escalade, the promo picture shows a Mark III escalade and during the prize draw, I was told I had won a £30k Escalade. Very misleading for me and the general public. The prize is a Mark II Escalade, uninsurable (at this point anyway) and nowhere near worth £30k. I do not believe that Paddy Power would have paid £30k to buy this car for the promotion and I’m sure you can easily find out what you did pay. I would be grateful if you could disclose this to me? At least that would give me an indication of its true value.

ASA have responded with an auto email to say they would come back to me within 15 days but I’m hopeful we can arrange suitable compensation before then, rather than for us to go down that route.

Best regards
Brian


So thats what I've sent. I know some of you will think yeah, that sounds about right and others will think don't be silly, its in the T's & C's but based on the ASA literature I've read, I'm thinking that I certainly have a case to be answered.

Thoughts?



Barry Homo

2,552 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
soupdragon1 said:
ok. We've another plot twist on our hands.

No car today!

Yesterday afternoon, I asked them to hold off on delivery as I was unable to find anyone to ensure me. A few hours later, I went back and said to deliver it anyway and I'll just keep it in my driveway until insurance gets sorted.

But on top of that, and based on some advice from previous posters (thanks) I've went onto the ASA website for a nosey, as well as trading standards. The ASA had a few articles on online competitions, promotions, general standards etc.

Reading through this, in my view, PP haven't ran the competition in line with how they maybe should have. Rather than type all that out, I'll just copy and paste the email I've sent to PP this morning.



Hi xxxxxxx

It’s not looking good for me getting insurance and being in N Ireland rules me out of using out many specialist insurers. I’m going to keep trying but it’s looking like I may have to take delivery without insurance in place. I’m available Thu/Fri this week, Mon, Thu and Fri of next week too and most of the following week bar Monday.

On another note, I think it’s only right that I should share that I’ve contacted ASA with a complaint about how the competition led me to believe I had won a prize of more significance. While you quite rightly point out that the T’s and C’s say the car is a 2003 Cadillac Escalade, Paddy Power have implied that it’s a car of more significant value. In the 1st instance, at the initial competition entry phase, there is clearly a computer generated image of a Mark III (2006-2013) Cadillac Escalate along with the caption win Tiger Woods crashed car* (not the actual one, this one has fewer dents and complimentary clubs in the boot) T&C’s apply

ASA state that significant T&C’s should be on the initial page of the promotion rather than in the T&C’s and while Paddy Power have done that for stating that it’s not Tigers actual car, there is no mention that it’s a completely different model year (mark II) than the Mark III in the promotional picture. It’s reasonable to assume that the prize, on initial entry, is a more modern Mark III escalade. Tiger Woods was driving a Mark III Cadillac when he had his famous crash, and the picture shows a Mark III car, and the ad is to win Tigers Crashed Car (just that it’s not the one Tiger actually drove)

Further to this, on the same twitter thread, there is also a video that shows the making of the ad, and while the actual car is shown in this video, it only shows little bits of it, like the wheels, the LED lights at the back, the modern grill and upgraded lights at the front. Again, this would lead you to believe that the car is more modern because these types of features wouldn’t normally be seen on a car of that age. Again, reasonable assumption that indeed, the prize is a more modern car. I’ve discovered that these are aftermarket upgrades - they make the car look fresher.

Then lastly, when the live draw was done, it was clearly stated that I was the winner, and I had won a Cadillac Escalade worth about £30 grand. Do what you want with it, stick it on eBay, insure it etc etc – congratulations Brian.

Clearly, I celebrate winning a £30k car. Both me, and the watching general public, have been given the perception of a different prize than the one I’ve ultimately received. Tiger crashed a Mark III Escalade, the promo picture shows a Mark III escalade and during the prize draw, I was told I had won a £30k Escalade. Very misleading for me and the general public. The prize is a Mark II Escalade, uninsurable (at this point anyway) and nowhere near worth £30k. I do not believe that Paddy Power would have paid £30k to buy this car for the promotion and I’m sure you can easily find out what you did pay. I would be grateful if you could disclose this to me? At least that would give me an indication of its true value.

ASA have responded with an auto email to say they would come back to me within 15 days but I’m hopeful we can arrange suitable compensation before then, rather than for us to go down that route.

Best regards
Brian


So thats what I've sent. I know some of you will think yeah, that sounds about right and others will think don't be silly, its in the T's & C's but based on the ASA literature I've read, I'm thinking that I certainly have a case to be answered.

Thoughts?
Christ man

essayer

9,084 posts

195 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
Paddy Power will publicly roast you alive, stop now

AllyBassman

779 posts

113 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
Can you recall the email?

S100HP

12,689 posts

168 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
FFS Brian. It would be a shame if someone sent this thread to Paddy.

BrabusMog

20,183 posts

187 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
Is this a wind up laugh

Cantaloupe

1,056 posts

61 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
This soupdragon, is he dealing from a full pack ?

Melman Giraffe

6,759 posts

219 months

Wednesday 21st August 2019
quotequote all
My thoughts are - PP have very deep pockets and will pay lawyers to look into this. I don't think you have a leg to stand on.

But i hope they see sense and send you 30k