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Jaffman

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152 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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No I didn’t. You have made your mind up that I’m a rule breaker from the very start and have since tried to hammer home a really pointless argument that nobody but yourself cares about.

It really is entertaining to watch you argue with yourself and spend time cherry picking comments from this thread in an attempt to ensure you’re right. I’m happy to let that carry on.

I have no desire to update this thread with car progress because of you and your obsession with rules that you have somehow convinced yourself I won’t follow. So yes well done you have derailed this thread - pointlessly I might add as you seem to have an eye on the build elsewhere but only felt the requirement to pipe up on here (I suspect there’s a post count thing or a feeling of establishment going on here personally).

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Jaffman said:
No I didn’t. You have made your mind up that I’m a rule breaker from the very start and have since tried to hammer home a really pointless argument that nobody but yourself cares about.

It really is entertaining to watch you argue with yourself and spend time cherry picking comments from this thread in an attempt to ensure you’re right. I’m happy to let that carry on.
I haven't made my mind up about anything, and i'd suggest that it's not really true to suggest "nobody cares" about the legal status of your car. VOSA / DVLA will certainly care, your insurance company will care, in fact, everything you do with your car, is required to be based upon a solid legal footing.

I'm sorry if you don't think that is important or pointless.

When you cut into and modified the tunnel/bulkhead/rear floor/chassis rails, as you have detailed in public (see your you-tube videos and many other forum posts / photo's for reference) you ended the road legal status of AJ52 OJE as a standard car certified by FoMoCo.


There is only one way forwards from here, and that is to get the (most excellent) car finished and running, get it IVA'd an enjoy it!




Jaffman

Original Poster:

152 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Haven’t made your mind up but happy to assume - yeah I see the logic there.


I got it wrong earlier - I apologise for the names I called you, I should have just called you Rover.

Dog

With

A

Bone

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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I've been trying to hold out an olive branch, i haven't called you names or suggested your project is "pointless" unlike some other posters in your thread, merely pointed out that you had under estimated your obligations.

If you think that makes me a dog with a bone, then fair enough, Rover it is (and i did engineer the 75 & MGF for them (Rover that is), so it sorta fits! ;-).



Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 10th November 18:30

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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BTW, on a pro-active point, i couldn't tell from your front subframe vid if you have welded a crush tube into the chassis rail where the "through bolt" goes. This will most certainly be required to prevent the bolt load from crushing the box section rail and continuously coming loose, which you don't want to happen !

Jaffman

Original Poster:

152 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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You’ve made me out as a liar and a potential law breaker because you can’t read and have assumed, then derailed a thread that normally brings out some decent conversation elsewhere - fk your olive branch, your a typical spoilsport and there’s no reasoning with spoilsports


anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Jaffman said:
You’ve made me out as a liar and a potential law breaker because you can’t read
Did you, or did you not write this:


"The boot floor was also cut out due to rot which I have no problem replacing with a flat floor panel. If that was the only thing I had changed I’d not tell anyone either. Risk/reward and all that"



If you are saying i can't read then please explain what precisely you meant by that statement. It seems, to me, hard to miss-understand such a statement no matter how poor one is at reading?







Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 10th November 18:41

Jaffman

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152 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Take a trip back to page 4 and see where I said “I am aware what is required to make this car Road legal”

I don’t know what more you want

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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You suggested i couldn't read, so i put up exactly what you posted.


What more do i want? I want you to finish the dam car and enjoy it, for what it will be, which is amazing!

But i also want you to be honest, and make sure you do fully understand what you have to do to get the car back on the road.

Yes, i'm the dog with the bone, but it's really is an important bone. Too many home builders build illegal cars, run them on their original plates, and risk the very real penalties that that entails. Now, i'm sure you do have a greater understanding on what is required, i'm sorry it's taken this argument to get to this point, and i think if you look at what you wrote in this thread, then you can see where some of my lack of confidence had sprung from.

I am more than happy to help you, wherever i can to get your project pushed forwards, and i'm happy to let it all be water under the bridge, so to speak. And yes, i'm a right PITA sometimes, but unfortunately, i'm also right fairly often too (it's an annoying habit of mine....... ;-) (<< this is joke btw, my heads big, but not that big...)

You are quite entitled to tell me to do one (politely) of course, but i am offering the branch if you want it :-)


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 10th November 18:55

Jaffman

Original Poster:

152 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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I’m also suggesting you have the same issue I have when listening to my misses...

Only listening to certain things and then looking like a muppet when being called out on it

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Jaffman said:
I’m also suggesting you have the same issue I have when listening to my misses...

Only listening to certain things and then looking like a muppet when being called out on it
I'm sure you are right (but don't tell you misses this, as you'll wish you were back arguing with me........)



Jaffman

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152 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Max_Torque said:
You suggested i couldn't read, so i put up exactly what you posted.


What more do i want? I want you to finish the dam car and enjoy it, for what it will be, which is amazing!

But i also want you to be honest, and make sure you do fully understand what you have to do to get the car back on the road.

Yes, i'm the dog with the bone, but it's really is an important bone. Too many home builders build illegal cars, run them on their original plates, and risk the very real penalties that that entails. Now, i'm sure you do have a greater understanding on what is required, i'm sorry it's taken this argument to get to this point, and i think if you look at what you wrote in this thread, then you can see where some of my lack of confidence had sprung from.

I am more than happy to help you, wherever i can to get your project pushed forwards, and i'm happy to let it all be water under the bridge, so to speak. And yes, i'm a right PITA sometimes, but unfortunately, i'm also right fairly often too (it's an annoying habit of mine....... ;-) (<< this is joke btw, my heads big, but not that big...)

You are quite entitled to tell me to do one (politely) of course, but i am offering the branch if you want it :-)


Edited by Max_Torque on Sunday 10th November 18:55
That’s the thing - it didn’t take this argument, you could have accepted something I said all the way back 4 pages ago where I said that I knew what was required, and then after that when I said if it needs an IVA it will have an IVA. All you have done since is disrupt the conversation based on snipets of quotes that I have said. All of which are irrelevant due to the amount of work I have done so far and/or from when I stated the above 2 things.

Wouldn’t surprise me if nobody comes in here and has a look anyway by now as all they’re expecting is an ongoing argument about something that nobody cares about - because reality is nobody does care about wether this car gets an IVA or not, all they care about is if it works or not. The whole legal business is my issue and my thing to care about.


anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Jaffman said:
all they care about is if it works or not.
It will work, in fact, it will work well, that bit i am sure of !!

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Oh, and two advantages of a "argument thread"

1) You thread stays at the top of the page

and

2) Everyone loves an argument!




Jaffman

Original Poster:

152 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Splendid - here’s a picture of the casualties of the rear end just in case there is anyone still out there clinging onto life after death of this thread




anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Jaffman said:
Splendid - here’s a picture of the casualties of the rear end just in case there is anyone still out there clinging onto life after death of this thread



Hopefully you still have 4 fingers and a thumb on each hand after that little lot was done!

Earlier in the thread there was a mention that the C170 had a large(ish) trans tunnel, that could have been for a future 4wd version. In fact, it was large to accommodate the necessary after treatment for the 2.3 litre American market vehicle that had a massive underfloor catalysts and centre silencer. There were never any plans for a 4wd model at the point the BIW was designed, those came later, which is why the Mk1 RS focus (which i developed for Ford) was fwd only (we probably would have gone 4wd if we could have)

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 10th November 19:25

Jaffman

Original Poster:

152 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Shame - I wouldn’t need an IVA then

DanielSan

18,818 posts

168 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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I hate to talk about the car, but is that the Reiger front bumper? One of the best looking available for the Mk1 Focus, even better than the RS imo.

irocfan

40,578 posts

191 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Jaffman said:
Shame - I wouldn’t need an IVA then
rofl

Jaffman

Original Poster:

152 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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DanielSan said:
I hate to talk about the car, but is that the Reiger front bumper? One of the best looking available for the Mk1 Focus, even better than the RS imo.
Yeah get out of the IVA thread with that talk!

Yes it is a Reiger bumper - pretty much sold me the car tbh, I love the look of it. Shame I was blinded a little and bought a rotten car but it is what it is.

Ironically the bumpers are £150 new so could have just bought one of them lol