Discussion
Jaffman said:
DanielSan said:
I hate to talk about the car, but is that the Reiger front bumper? One of the best looking available for the Mk1 Focus, even better than the RS imo.
Yeah get out of the IVA thread with that talk!Yes it is a Reiger bumper - pretty much sold me the car tbh, I love the look of it. Shame I was blinded a little and bought a rotten car but it is what it is.
Ironically the bumpers are £150 new so could have just bought one of them lol
Ford definitely cut a few corners, well saved a few £££ on a car that was a LOT more expensive to make than the Escort it replaced, on the corrosion protection for the Mk1, and of course the youngest one is now a old car, and most have been sat outside all there lives, so some rot is to be expected. The problem with modern cars that rot is the complexity of the bodyshell makes repairs pretty difficult as the structures are boxes in boxes type arrangements
300bhp/ton said:
The Focus was sold in the USA too.
But I can see their point. They would be viewing it much like a microwave oven or a dishwasher. Just an economy class car with a nasty interior and generally low spec. So they probably can't comprehend why anyone would invest time and money on such a radical modification vs what you could achieve.
And to be fair, that is exactly what a Focus is, even in the UK. It is a boring car. But not boring enough to make a sleeper of it, because of the Ford youth and modifying scene. Lots of noisy exhausts, chav bodykits and a huge amount of untasteful car mods.
Now your approach may well be far superior and very well engineered to produce what will be a good car at the end. But to most people, even car people it'll just be another Focus. Which unless you are part of the Ford scene, really isn't all that interesting of a car. It isn't pretty to look at but nor is it aggressive. And being an ST170, i.e. the sporty version. It is unlikely to surprise people if it is quick, as they'll just assume they are like that or you have turbo charged it.
Of course there will be the 1 in 1000 people who will appreciate it for what it is. But as you can see, those people are maybe thin on the ground.
Personally I think you are doing something very very interesting, to something very very dull. Which while I can marvel at your fabbing skills, doesn't really excite me. As I said previously, I think for the effort/money, you could likely have done something far more interesting.
See this as either negative or positive.
I also note you are avoiding anything regarding IVA and the legality of what you are building. If you said you where going for a full IVA and detailing it here, I suspect people would be more interested. But so far it comes across as though you are going to fiddle the legality of it.
You remind me of an IT tester I’ve come unfortunately had to “work” with on some projects. Negative and spend your time on the internet rather than working But I can see their point. They would be viewing it much like a microwave oven or a dishwasher. Just an economy class car with a nasty interior and generally low spec. So they probably can't comprehend why anyone would invest time and money on such a radical modification vs what you could achieve.
And to be fair, that is exactly what a Focus is, even in the UK. It is a boring car. But not boring enough to make a sleeper of it, because of the Ford youth and modifying scene. Lots of noisy exhausts, chav bodykits and a huge amount of untasteful car mods.
Now your approach may well be far superior and very well engineered to produce what will be a good car at the end. But to most people, even car people it'll just be another Focus. Which unless you are part of the Ford scene, really isn't all that interesting of a car. It isn't pretty to look at but nor is it aggressive. And being an ST170, i.e. the sporty version. It is unlikely to surprise people if it is quick, as they'll just assume they are like that or you have turbo charged it.
Of course there will be the 1 in 1000 people who will appreciate it for what it is. But as you can see, those people are maybe thin on the ground.
Personally I think you are doing something very very interesting, to something very very dull. Which while I can marvel at your fabbing skills, doesn't really excite me. As I said previously, I think for the effort/money, you could likely have done something far more interesting.
See this as either negative or positive.
I also note you are avoiding anything regarding IVA and the legality of what you are building. If you said you where going for a full IVA and detailing it here, I suspect people would be more interested. But so far it comes across as though you are going to fiddle the legality of it.
Danj8608 said:
Any actual progress updates?
erm, car has an engine that turns over but doesnt fire, a clutch that works but doesnt actuate, a propshaft that is spot welded together, a rear subframe that is indeed bolted in and functional (the diff turns and the suspension bounces and everything).its missing brakes (although this is a bolt on jobby), driveshafts, and some oil stuff for the turbos, and the exhaust needs to be fiddled and welded and its ready for a shakedown
Jaffman said:
Danj8608 said:
Will definitely need an IVA with all that nonsense going on 
im planning on taking it to the middle of town and doing some donuts to see what breaks first.no tax no mot no insurance no IVA
I might even tear up my driving licence because I'm just that wreckless!
You sir are my hero, as I've already said, carry on doing just what you're doing, ignore the idiots!!!!!Max_Torque said:
Jaffman said:
Standard management - all ready to go
I thought you were "adding boost" Can you remap the std management to cope or you're gonna run N/A to start off with? (which might not be a bad idea to get the thing shook down etc)Fastdruid said:
Max_Torque said:
Jaffman said:
Standard management - all ready to go
I thought you were "adding boost" Can you remap the std management to cope or you're gonna run N/A to start off with? (which might not be a bad idea to get the thing shook down etc)Tony427 said:
Fastdruid said:
Max_Torque said:
Jaffman said:
Standard management - all ready to go
I thought you were "adding boost" Can you remap the std management to cope or you're gonna run N/A to start off with? (which might not be a bad idea to get the thing shook down etc)
What's two PSI between friends anyway? I’ve read standard ecu can cope with up to about 7 so we’re in the ballpark.
This will be running about 7psi with some Volvo turbos. See how it goes iron out any issues with it. Limit on the thin rods is about 8 anyway so I’m not gonna risk it too much to begin with
Then whilst I’m doing that I’m gonna build a thick rod engine with standalone ready to just drop into the car along with some sort of T3 flanged turbo as that’s what the Volvo turbo uses
This will be running about 7psi with some Volvo turbos. See how it goes iron out any issues with it. Limit on the thin rods is about 8 anyway so I’m not gonna risk it too much to begin with
Then whilst I’m doing that I’m gonna build a thick rod engine with standalone ready to just drop into the car along with some sort of T3 flanged turbo as that’s what the Volvo turbo uses
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