Toyota Crown JZS171 - JDM Barge
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d_a_n1979 said:
This is such a lovely motor 
Proper Old Skool Kool
There's an estate version on eBay currently that's peaking my interest. When I get bored of my BMW touring I may look into one of these; practical car and with tuning capabilities to boot
ThanksProper Old Skool Kool
There's an estate version on eBay currently that's peaking my interest. When I get bored of my BMW touring I may look into one of these; practical car and with tuning capabilities to boot
The white one by any chance for under 5k? Lovely car that! Estates are awesome too! I just had no need for one.
swampy442 said:
In the oil feed union to the VVTI unit, there's a tiny little filter, chances are that's blocked or blocking, restricting the oil flow.
Re tapping noises, chances are you have a sticky lifter, try an oil change with Toyota spec oil, believe its 10w 30? Also noisy aux belt tensioners make a knocking noise
I was thinking aux belt tensioner! is there a way to test it? by hand it feels solid but that's expected.Re tapping noises, chances are you have a sticky lifter, try an oil change with Toyota spec oil, believe its 10w 30? Also noisy aux belt tensioners make a knocking noise
d_a_n1979 said:
No it's a silver one, c£5.9k IIRC; there's a Blit II as well by the same seller Both 1JZ engines...
Look cracking cars
oh right! I know the one you're talking about. Both 1JZ engines...Look cracking cars
Don't think I've ever seen a blitz in uk
probably a handful here if that. 
Thanks
Anyway, she's had a wash and is looking great now! Won't last but good to see it clean. Main goal is to get all the muck off so it doesn't stick.
martin12345 said:
The mods you really need are
a) the white lace seat covers
b) white cotton gloves
c) White shirt and dark tie
Full Japanese taxi attire for the perfect Qcar/sleeper look
Love the car BTW
Haha! Some of it was an option apparently..a) the white lace seat covers
b) white cotton gloves
c) White shirt and dark tie
Full Japanese taxi attire for the perfect Qcar/sleeper look
Love the car BTW
Anyway, she's had a wash and is looking great now! Won't last but good to see it clean. Main goal is to get all the muck off so it doesn't stick.
Thanks guys!
that's exactly my point, for under £5k you can have something interesting, don't get me wrong it isn't cheap to run but low/no depreciation outweighs the cost of running in my opinion. Not that I bought it for that reason, I simply like weird/unusual cars.
I would turn up in either my s2000 or the crown!
Maldini35 said:
I love it.
This is the sort of thing I find most interesting now.
Affordable, interesting, older cars.
You can have some fun playing with them without worrying about residuals or warranties.
That’s what it’s all about after all, a bit of fun.
thanks!This is the sort of thing I find most interesting now.
Affordable, interesting, older cars.
You can have some fun playing with them without worrying about residuals or warranties.
That’s what it’s all about after all, a bit of fun.
that's exactly my point, for under £5k you can have something interesting, don't get me wrong it isn't cheap to run but low/no depreciation outweighs the cost of running in my opinion. Not that I bought it for that reason, I simply like weird/unusual cars.
TommoAE86 said:
Scrubs up well Grudas, what are you using? I have a K4 in the garage which just about stops the Crown from going brown in this weather.
nothing special during winter really, just snowfoam, two bucket wash and some sonax BSD to protect it between washes.BMW A6 said:
A lot of 1990s Mercedes S class and modern day Bentley in the side profile
I can see that! d_a_n1979 said:
Looks really, really well
I agree, needs wider tyres and maybe lifting a touch and then space the alloys out to get them a bit more flush, rather than tucked in, but that's my personal preference
I can't stop looking at that Blit on eBay
Will have to have a serious think come the New Year
do it! they're extremely rare here in uk.. While I prefer the crown estate that blitz looks epic I agree, needs wider tyres and maybe lifting a touch and then space the alloys out to get them a bit more flush, rather than tucked in, but that's my personal preference
I can't stop looking at that Blit on eBay
Will have to have a serious think come the New YearpSyCoSiS said:
That's a very cool car indeed.
Personally, I would like engine mods but keep it looking OEM to remain 'under the radar' and give the proper Q car status.
it is very much standard other than wheels and some lowering, even exhaust is oem - might change but nothing crazy.Personally, I would like engine mods but keep it looking OEM to remain 'under the radar' and give the proper Q car status.
_Marvin said:
Congrats on RCOTW mate - we need another South Eastern meet so I can see this in person! Maybe once we're the other side of winter though?
cheers bud! yes we do! I would turn up in either my s2000 or the crown! BlameItOnGT2 said:
Coming out of my PH hiatus for this post.
I'm a HUGE fan of Toyota Crowns. Luxurious, powerful and they just look so good, very underrated car even by the modified JDM scene.
Saving for a house at the moment so can't afford to buy one right now so probably going to wait 18 months and import an Athlete V Estate. Just makes perfect sense as a powerful and comfortable family barge.
Is it as sensitive to the type of fuel you use as the 2 litre JDM turbo cars are? Is the economy absolutely abysmal?
They're great cars! I'm a HUGE fan of Toyota Crowns. Luxurious, powerful and they just look so good, very underrated car even by the modified JDM scene.
Saving for a house at the moment so can't afford to buy one right now so probably going to wait 18 months and import an Athlete V Estate. Just makes perfect sense as a powerful and comfortable family barge.
Is it as sensitive to the type of fuel you use as the 2 litre JDM turbo cars are? Is the economy absolutely abysmal?
I'm genuinely enjoying mine. Estates are uber practical too, even my saloon has a huge boot, shame that seats don't fold but that's a very toyota/lexus saloon thing to do. And 1jz is a beautiful engine.to be honest with you I only run it on V-Power or Momentum so can't tell how it behaves on 95 etc, momentum seems to be a bit better economy vise and returns 1-2mpg/average extra over vpower, power/response wise it is all very similar/not something I notice.
I'm averaging around 19mpg now so not great but hey, can't have it all!
I do have a heavy foot and mostly commute through country lanes and some a roads. swampy442 said:
As someone who daily'd a Crown V for a year, on the motorway cruising at about the legal limit you can regularly average 28mpg ish
yeah it did really well on my drive down to north london and back.. probably 130ish miles at random speeds, drank around quarter of a tank, BlameItOnGT2 said:
Given how much of a porker it is, that is actually not too bad at all!
The only reason I'm looking into one of these (or any Lexus of similar vintage) is because my commute to work is a mere 8 miles return. Man maths is clear in confirming it makes it a very economical car.
Will definitely be following this thread with great interest!
it is big length wise, doesn't feel/look that wide for some reason. I think they're around 1700kg so not too crazy for the size.The only reason I'm looking into one of these (or any Lexus of similar vintage) is because my commute to work is a mere 8 miles return. Man maths is clear in confirming it makes it a very economical car.
Will definitely be following this thread with great interest!
it is a very economical car, returns steady mpg etc..
if you need any more convincing.love it @alex!
as far as the car goes, well it's been interesting few weeks..
work wise I've replaced the front upper control arms as the bushes were dead and gave it a wash.
and then we went into arch rolling to make space for wider wheels.. this didn't go to plan to say the least!
the crown some with this extra lip screwed into the arch lip which after removing leaves a few square holes in the lip and when rolling those holes ended up twisting the metal a bit which resulted in some minuscule dents on the arch.. so that's another thing to sort out, might get in touch with a paintless dent repair guy and see what he says.
as far as winter wheels go, well my 225/40/19 tyres still do not clear on the rear! now it touches the rear bumper so need to figure out how to go about that, I want more rubber but these crowns came with 225 rear tyres which in my opinion is very undersized for the car/power and it constantly struggles.
car did get a wash at the end and is looking better.
TommoAE86 said:
Grudas is your turning circle tiny? Mine's smaller than the Skyline was 
Although not a S170 mine is super frugal on the fuel - made it Cornwall-Southampton-Back on a single tank and I wasn't on an eco run. When we went round Europe we'd budgeted £800 on fuel and it used £270. Such a great car!
I think it's around 17ft or something! not much more than ls400 which is impressive over-all. That is impressive! mine barely does 20mpg Although not a S170 mine is super frugal on the fuel - made it Cornwall-Southampton-Back on a single tank and I wasn't on an eco run. When we went round Europe we'd budgeted £800 on fuel and it used £270. Such a great car! BlameItOnGT2 said:
Oh I don't need any more convincing!
Good to know that it doesn't feel as big as it looks. Always have been concerned that the bigger Jap estates like the Crown Estate and the Stagea would feel too big. Although I hear the Stagea does actually feel as big as it is.
it does feel big when you go from other cars but you get used to it very quickly.. took me a week or so going from my is250 and to be fair the crown is easier to place on the road due to boxy shape.Good to know that it doesn't feel as big as it looks. Always have been concerned that the bigger Jap estates like the Crown Estate and the Stagea would feel too big. Although I hear the Stagea does actually feel as big as it is.
as far as the car goes, well it's been interesting few weeks..
work wise I've replaced the front upper control arms as the bushes were dead and gave it a wash.
and then we went into arch rolling to make space for wider wheels.. this didn't go to plan to say the least!
the crown some with this extra lip screwed into the arch lip which after removing leaves a few square holes in the lip and when rolling those holes ended up twisting the metal a bit which resulted in some minuscule dents on the arch.. so that's another thing to sort out, might get in touch with a paintless dent repair guy and see what he says.
as far as winter wheels go, well my 225/40/19 tyres still do not clear on the rear! now it touches the rear bumper so need to figure out how to go about that, I want more rubber but these crowns came with 225 rear tyres which in my opinion is very undersized for the car/power and it constantly struggles.
car did get a wash at the end and is looking better.
best I've done was 420km from a tank, was around 22mpg if I remember correctly.. it could do much better but my commute is mostly country lanes.
current are 225/45/18 and those fit..
I can't put power down at all, even 60mpg it spins up the rears on kickdown
TommoAE86 said:
That's interesting, I put Hancook's on the back having had a good experience with them on the Skyline but they've really struggled in the wet/cold conditions - mine are 225/45/18's. When I change them I'm going to go premium and see if that helps.
sorry I mean 255/40/19! current are 225/45/18 and those fit..I can't put power down at all, even 60mpg it spins up the rears on kickdown
TommoAE86 said:
That's impressive to still get that at 60, what bhp is yours up to again? Mine usually struggles just from a standing start. Wondering if I can get away with 19's without any arch work as I think it would be nice to fill abit better than the standard wheels.
The 700km is right at the limit from the book figures after a fill up on the outskirts of Amsterdam all the way down to Luxembourg city - was so surprised
it's around 300! but the open diff and 225 midrange tyres really do not help The 700km is right at the limit from the book figures after a fill up on the outskirts of Amsterdam all the way down to Luxembourg city - was so surprised
it kicks down hard and breaks traction.. with traction off I had it spinning to silly speeds for the power that it is.. that is very impressive, what engine is yours again? the v6 shared with some lexus models right?
a11y_m said:
I'm guessing country lanes aren't this car's forte?! That's a big bus to be taking down smaller roads
I'm okay with it, such a boxy car is easy to place on the road but tighter country lanes obviously cause issues car is still going! bar my messing around with suspension setup it has been fine, it's running HSD coilovers with what was "comfy/standard" set of springs at 12kg front and 10kg rear but the issue I found is that with those springs the shock was 50% + compressed just standing still, any bigger bump etc on the road would bottom out the suspension.
this also caused issues with me trying to lower it a bit more before sorting out the fitment on the wheels.
I ended up having a chat with HSD and they suggested that the testing was done on a wagon version of this car but I'm struggling to see how it managed it without bottoming out unless the suspension is in some way different as the sedan should be lighter.
anyway, the car drove fine with 12/10 kg setup but not amazing.
I ended up ordering new springs and rebuilding the coilovers just after xmas, this time I went for 18k front and 16k rear so quite a bump in stiffness/rate.
the result is that the car can now be lowered more and handles a million times better, I can actually hoon it at decent speeds around twisties and it holds it self together! impressive for a thing of this size.
the ride also improved, guess the fact that shock/spring combo can now handle the car makes a massive difference!
I've also installed my spare set of alloys I had, 19's this time. Not a huge fan of them but they will do for now while I refurbish the 3pc split SSR's and get the dishes polished etc.
a few pictures of work/how it sits now.
swampy442 said:
Get some grease on those coilovers, stat! Don't you run into clearance issues running so low?
Are those eBolas?? *Puke emoji*
Yeah they've been covered in acf50 Are those eBolas?? *Puke emoji*
and threads etc have had copper grease on top just in case.Not too bad, front rubs a little on the arch liner at full lock and on an incline.
Bigger issue is the upper control arm hitting the strut tower over major bumps! Need RCAs to correct the geo and will also raise the car a bit to avoid that.
They are indeed bola b16! Not amazing but they'll do for the winter as spare wheels. These are 19s whereas the SSRs are 18.
But the SSR splits will go back on once they're in a better shape.
Suspension was adjusted by eye, equal each end but too low for my liking. I will raise it this weekend when I have a hour to kill.
Rear needs to go up by 10-15mm and front around the same.
TommoAE86 said:
Great work, may I ask how the ride is? I really want to lower the S180 as the wheels can look alittle lost, however would like to remain as close as I can to the factory ride comfort.
The style of the new wheels are good, I'm hoping I could put on some Rays
To be fair with you it isn't too bad, it's not as comfy as standard obviously but I never had it with a fully functioning suspension The style of the new wheels are good, I'm hoping I could put on some Rays
when I got it the rear shocks were dead, fronts tired etc.. this rides alright, it corners really well compared to before and for my daily commute through country lanes it's fine.Keep in mind my other car is a honda s2000 with a stiff ohlin setup it so I can only compare to my previous cars and that.
With a slight drop, aka 20-40mm you will be fine, if you go extreme or rim to lip height like mine is right now the ride will be compromised, especially with cheaper suspension.
swampy442 said:
That's when you get all American and start cutting holes in your suspension turrets....... re RCA's make sure you use quality bolts, I've seen someone crash their car because the RCA bolts sheared.
yeah not doing that! I'd rather raise it a bit and space out the wheels to fill the arches I am probably going to get this set -;
https://www.driftworks.com/hardrace-6838-is200-is3...
from driftworks or go something from ebay, garage-d for e.g.
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