Swamp's Supra - 'Barn find' Mk4 aero top content
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mattdavies said:
I take it your the same guy on Mkivsupra.net ?
Its interesting to see what people have tried to do with these cars before, i suppose it is one of the things that happen when they bottomed out 5/6 years ago
Yes that's me Its interesting to see what people have tried to do with these cars before, i suppose it is one of the things that happen when they bottomed out 5/6 years ago
I've never been one to go for body kits, especially some of the ones you see about. The Mk4 has such a pure shape anything stuck on just detracts from that. And also can hide some real nasties!Not a lot in the way of updates due to work and other projects. But it always was a slow burner. Stripped and rebuilt the clutch master cylinder, bled the clutch and that works, sorted the fuel line routing underneath and tucked the tank away. Still think I need an after market pump hanger with AN fittings. To be continued....
Spend 50 quid on a USB cable. 50 quid. 50 f*****g quid!! Makes me so mad for what is essentially a fivers worth of cable, but I was scuppered without it. At least I can now tweak the map and hopefully get it running.
Also bagged these 17" rear wheels, for *drum roll* 50 quid! Given the current market for stock Supra parts and how rare big rears are, people would probably pay 10 times that. Plan is to get them banded to 10.5" to help put the power down and keep the OEM look
Spend 50 quid on a USB cable. 50 quid. 50 f*****g quid!! Makes me so mad for what is essentially a fivers worth of cable, but I was scuppered without it. At least I can now tweak the map and hopefully get it running.
Also bagged these 17" rear wheels, for *drum roll* 50 quid! Given the current market for stock Supra parts and how rare big rears are, people would probably pay 10 times that. Plan is to get them banded to 10.5" to help put the power down and keep the OEM look
Edited by swampy442 on Wednesday 18th March 17:09
gareth_r said:
Really, Craig? I have a few spare sets of 17s lying about, and I can't use all of them on the Soarer. Looks like it's time to tidy the garage and get over to the Supra forum classifieds.
Oh yeah! A matched set of 17s front and wider rears will be easy 600 quid now, depending on condition. Very much in demandGroundZero said:
Sounds like you are making good progress OP.
The Supra is an amazing platform for tuning.
I took my old UK-spec TT6 only to BPU+ with about 420bhp and felt that was enough for the road. With you going for 600bhp it should feel quick even against the modern era of performance cars.
Thanks The Supra is an amazing platform for tuning.
I took my old UK-spec TT6 only to BPU+ with about 420bhp and felt that was enough for the road. With you going for 600bhp it should feel quick even against the modern era of performance cars.
This is the thing, its really easy to go for huge power, but ultimately I want a reliable, usable road car. that wont be breaking things every 5 minutes I used to have a 600hp R35 and that was as fast a road car as you could ever want. things happen really quickly at those power levels
Another week off work so more progress, more like 4 steps 2 steps back but it's still a net forward move lol. Might not look like a lot but its always the details that take the most time.
The Link ECU came with a Can Lamda set up for monitoring the fuel ratios, but not the required cable. Nobody ever tells you that whilst the Link ECU appears good value on the surface, the sundries and ancillaries are really expensive. What you're looking at is £130 of cables. yes, 2 cables that cost pence to make, one hundred and thirty quid.
But the net result, with a bit of ECU set up, was working AFRs. Win. People say the interface is difficult to use but I find it intuitive personally.
Also bought a nice, high quality exhaust for not a lot of money, a nice Fujitsubo. Quiet with a couple of resonators but 3" so should flow enough for the required 600hp.
The steps back bit, I was ready to ft the fuel tank cover, but had to take the back bumper off to do that, oh well. Then discovered this skanky crash bar. Its only surface so a shot blast and a paint an it will be fine
The Link ECU came with a Can Lamda set up for monitoring the fuel ratios, but not the required cable. Nobody ever tells you that whilst the Link ECU appears good value on the surface, the sundries and ancillaries are really expensive. What you're looking at is £130 of cables. yes, 2 cables that cost pence to make, one hundred and thirty quid.
But the net result, with a bit of ECU set up, was working AFRs. Win. People say the interface is difficult to use but I find it intuitive personally.
Also bought a nice, high quality exhaust for not a lot of money, a nice Fujitsubo. Quiet with a couple of resonators but 3" so should flow enough for the required 600hp.
The steps back bit, I was ready to ft the fuel tank cover, but had to take the back bumper off to do that, oh well. Then discovered this skanky crash bar. Its only surface so a shot blast and a paint an it will be fine
J.C... said:
Another Supra fan who’s missed the boat here. Had one on my list for years and never for one second thought they would hit the heights they have. Saw one the other night whilst walking the dog that looks like it’s just been pulled out of hibernation from the owners garage and they are still a fantastically pure looking car.
I managed to jump on the bandwagon at just the right time I thing haha. They do look so good in standard form, I'm not a fan of body kits and big wheels on them, and thankfully the scene/market as a whole is not going back down the stock body routegareth_r said:
swampy442 said:
I managed to jump on the bandwagon at just the right time I thing haha. They do look so good in standard form, I'm not a fan of body kits and big wheels on them, and thankfully the scene/market as a whole is not going back down the stock body route.
Did you mean "now"? 
Bloody hell, over a year since the last update! In truth not a lot has happened. But I've girded my loins and now the car is more or less complete, soon to be ready for mapping.
Was setting up the hand brake, spinning the wheels etc, ooh that feels rough. Checked the wheel bearings for play, and guess what, both rear bearings shot. Balls. So after having an almost complete car I now have to rip the back end apart
These things always come with risks, collateral damage - ABS speed sensor. May well have been in the hub since 1992.
Luckily theyre still available from Toyota. Oh, no theyre not. But thats cool because used Supra parts are cheap enough and dont suffer from 1000% Supra tax. Ah, again theyre not.
Some new bearing goodness and old bearing nastiness
Was setting up the hand brake, spinning the wheels etc, ooh that feels rough. Checked the wheel bearings for play, and guess what, both rear bearings shot. Balls. So after having an almost complete car I now have to rip the back end apart
These things always come with risks, collateral damage - ABS speed sensor. May well have been in the hub since 1992.
Luckily theyre still available from Toyota. Oh, no theyre not. But thats cool because used Supra parts are cheap enough and dont suffer from 1000% Supra tax. Ah, again theyre not.
Some new bearing goodness and old bearing nastiness
puttything said:
Great project - can't believe the parts prices, makes finding old BMW bits with the ///M tax applied seem reasonable!
As much as I love Supra's the parts prices and owners groups drive me mad. You wouldnt believe what people charge for stock wheels, used brake callipers. Hell if you want a used 6 speed gearbox now you're talking 6 grand plus. And it doesnt matter what price is named, someone always says 'too cheap'sbk1972 said:
Great Thread.
I had a Mk4 TT JDM 1996. Was a facelift version. loved it. Gave it to my brother who kept it for 5 years and sold it on with 200K miles on it. Was on original JDM turbos. Loved the car. I preferred the plastic headlight looks but the glasses ones didnt need to be sanded / painted all the time.
Out of interest, I have a low mileage JDM automatic gearbox / torque converter. I brought it back in early 2000s when everyone was going manual / single turbos. I brought it as a spare. Are these worth anything now ? Where's the best place to sell it ? The mkiv supra forum seems to be rather quiet nowadays.. :-)
Simon
Hi, the owners club would be a good start, Facebook groups, value well someone will always want one as a spare, they tend to go for 250/300 quid now, mileage dependantI had a Mk4 TT JDM 1996. Was a facelift version. loved it. Gave it to my brother who kept it for 5 years and sold it on with 200K miles on it. Was on original JDM turbos. Loved the car. I preferred the plastic headlight looks but the glasses ones didnt need to be sanded / painted all the time.
Out of interest, I have a low mileage JDM automatic gearbox / torque converter. I brought it back in early 2000s when everyone was going manual / single turbos. I brought it as a spare. Are these worth anything now ? Where's the best place to sell it ? The mkiv supra forum seems to be rather quiet nowadays.. :-)
Simon
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