Swamp's Supra - 'Barn find' Mk4 aero top content

Swamp's Supra - 'Barn find' Mk4 aero top content

Author
Discussion

swampy442

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

211 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
quotequote all
GroundZero said:
Sounds like you are making good progress OP.
The Supra is an amazing platform for tuning.
I took my old UK-spec TT6 only to BPU+ with about 420bhp and felt that was enough for the road. With you going for 600bhp it should feel quick even against the modern era of performance cars.
Thanks smile
This is the thing, its really easy to go for huge power, but ultimately I want a reliable, usable road car. that wont be breaking things every 5 minutes I used to have a 600hp R35 and that was as fast a road car as you could ever want. things happen really quickly at those power levels

swampy442

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

211 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
quotequote all
irocfan said:
didn't think that banding of alloys was allowed?
Why not? People band steel wheels all the time, its been done in Europe a few times. Just welding metal, trying to find someone you trust is the hard bit

swampy442

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

211 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
quotequote all
st33ly said:
Love the car and rebuild thread mate. What ramp are you using in your garage?

Cheers
Cheers smile Re the ramp, I dont actually know the brand, bought it about 3 years ago from the garage next door to my unit. Its really come in handy over the years

GroundZero

2,085 posts

54 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
quotequote all
swampy442 said:
Thanks smile
This is the thing, its really easy to go for huge power, but ultimately I want a reliable, usable road car. that wont be breaking things every 5 minutes I used to have a 600hp R35 and that was as fast a road car as you could ever want. things happen really quickly at those power levels
Also driven a number of high bhp cars and you are very much correct, things do happen quickly.
The good thing with the Supra of course is that it is RWD and most of the fun happens simply because it has enough power to break traction and because it has a proper mechanical LSD. smile

irocfan

40,469 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
quotequote all
swampy442 said:
irocfan said:
didn't think that banding of alloys was allowed?
Why not? People band steel wheels all the time, its been done in Europe a few times. Just welding metal, trying to find someone you trust is the hard bit
it was something I was (semi) looking into and even in the US it's not easy. Apparently there's an issue with heating the alloy to then put in the extra, the molecular composition/integrity is compromised (got very sciencey!)

swampy442

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

211 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
quotequote all
Momentous occasion! I learnt a lot, it took me the best part of a day to get it going, plugs in and out about 15 times lol, but I got there.
Click for the vid


[url=https://flic.kr/p/2iQiPkh]

swampy442

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

211 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
quotequote all
Also spent about 20 man hours underneath running fuel lines and brake lines in. On a bit of a pause now as I await a bung from eBay, then we're onto the testing phase, mapping is close...

swampy442

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
quotequote all
Another week off work so more progress, more like 4 steps 2 steps back but it's still a net forward move lol. Might not look like a lot but its always the details that take the most time.

The Link ECU came with a Can Lamda set up for monitoring the fuel ratios, but not the required cable. Nobody ever tells you that whilst the Link ECU appears good value on the surface, the sundries and ancillaries are really expensive. What you're looking at is £130 of cables. yes, 2 cables that cost pence to make, one hundred and thirty quid.




But the net result, with a bit of ECU set up, was working AFRs. Win. People say the interface is difficult to use but I find it intuitive personally.




Also bought a nice, high quality exhaust for not a lot of money, a nice Fujitsubo. Quiet with a couple of resonators but 3" so should flow enough for the required 600hp.





The steps back bit, I was ready to ft the fuel tank cover, but had to take the back bumper off to do that, oh well. Then discovered this skanky crash bar. Its only surface so a shot blast and a paint an it will be fine



Davie_GLA

6,524 posts

199 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
quotequote all
.

J.C...

156 posts

105 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
quotequote all
Another Supra fan who’s missed the boat here. Had one on my list for years and never for one second thought they would hit the heights they have. Saw one the other night whilst walking the dog that looks like it’s just been pulled out of hibernation from the owners garage and they are still a fantastically pure looking car.

swampy442

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

211 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
quotequote all
J.C... said:
Another Supra fan who’s missed the boat here. Had one on my list for years and never for one second thought they would hit the heights they have. Saw one the other night whilst walking the dog that looks like it’s just been pulled out of hibernation from the owners garage and they are still a fantastically pure looking car.
I managed to jump on the bandwagon at just the right time I thing haha. They do look so good in standard form, I'm not a fan of body kits and big wheels on them, and thankfully the scene/market as a whole is not going back down the stock body route

gareth_r

5,730 posts

237 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
quotequote all
swampy442 said:
I managed to jump on the bandwagon at just the right time I thing haha. They do look so good in standard form, I'm not a fan of body kits and big wheels on them, and thankfully the scene/market as a whole is not going back down the stock body route.
Did you mean "now"? smile

mattdavies

253 posts

157 months

Monday 6th July 2020
quotequote all
Enjoying reading this thread.

Intetereting to see that LINK ECU although looks like a good alternative to a Syvecs etc, but the cables add up.

swampy442

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

211 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
quotequote all
gareth_r said:
swampy442 said:
I managed to jump on the bandwagon at just the right time I thing haha. They do look so good in standard form, I'm not a fan of body kits and big wheels on them, and thankfully the scene/market as a whole is not going back down the stock body route.
Did you mean "now"? smile
Well spotted biggrin

swampy442

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

211 months

Sunday 11th July 2021
quotequote all
Bloody hell, over a year since the last update! In truth not a lot has happened. But I've girded my loins and now the car is more or less complete, soon to be ready for mapping.

Was setting up the hand brake, spinning the wheels etc, ooh that feels rough. Checked the wheel bearings for play, and guess what, both rear bearings shot. Balls. So after having an almost complete car I now have to rip the back end apart mad

These things always come with risks, collateral damage - ABS speed sensor. May well have been in the hub since 1992.
Luckily theyre still available from Toyota. Oh, no theyre not. But thats cool because used Supra parts are cheap enough and dont suffer from 1000% Supra tax. Ah, again theyre not.







Some new bearing goodness and old bearing nastiness




puttything

141 posts

168 months

Friday 16th July 2021
quotequote all
Great project - can't believe the parts prices, makes finding old BMW bits with the ///M tax applied seem reasonable!

Zetec-S

5,874 posts

93 months

Friday 16th July 2021
quotequote all
Just discovered this thread, really enjoying it as the Mk4 Supra is one of my favourite cars... might be a little jealous... biggrin

swampy442

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

211 months

Monday 19th July 2021
quotequote all
puttything said:
Great project - can't believe the parts prices, makes finding old BMW bits with the ///M tax applied seem reasonable!
As much as I love Supra's the parts prices and owners groups drive me mad. You wouldnt believe what people charge for stock wheels, used brake callipers. Hell if you want a used 6 speed gearbox now you're talking 6 grand plus. And it doesnt matter what price is named, someone always says 'too cheap'

sbk1972

854 posts

76 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
quotequote all
Great Thread.

I had a Mk4 TT JDM 1996. Was a facelift version. loved it. Gave it to my brother who kept it for 5 years and sold it on with 200K miles on it. Was on original JDM turbos. Loved the car. I preferred the plastic headlight looks but the glasses ones didnt need to be sanded / painted all the time.

Out of interest, I have a low mileage JDM automatic gearbox / torque converter. I brought it back in early 2000s when everyone was going manual / single turbos. I brought it as a spare. Are these worth anything now ? Where's the best place to sell it ? The mkiv supra forum seems to be rather quiet nowadays.. :-)

Simon

swampy442

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

211 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
quotequote all
sbk1972 said:
Great Thread.

I had a Mk4 TT JDM 1996. Was a facelift version. loved it. Gave it to my brother who kept it for 5 years and sold it on with 200K miles on it. Was on original JDM turbos. Loved the car. I preferred the plastic headlight looks but the glasses ones didnt need to be sanded / painted all the time.

Out of interest, I have a low mileage JDM automatic gearbox / torque converter. I brought it back in early 2000s when everyone was going manual / single turbos. I brought it as a spare. Are these worth anything now ? Where's the best place to sell it ? The mkiv supra forum seems to be rather quiet nowadays.. :-)

Simon
Hi, the owners club would be a good start, Facebook groups, value well someone will always want one as a spare, they tend to go for 250/300 quid now, mileage dependant