Panic buying a pandemic Ferrari

Panic buying a pandemic Ferrari

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Medic-one

3,105 posts

203 months

Friday 29th May 2020
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Great thread, very brave but lovely car!


jackpe said:
left hooker originally from Holland.
If there's any Dutch documents with it you'd like translating feel free to post them here or send them over.

RenPug

630 posts

168 months

Friday 29th May 2020
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Sorry for putting more 205 comments on your Ferrari thread but I cant comment on YouTube for some reason.

Just watched your latest video, for the starting issue check the brown multiplug on top of the gearbox, corroded connectors can cause a voltage drop causing the car not to start. The standard rear speakers in a 205 are very shallow as there is not much room so a lot of aftermarket ones wont fit, ensure you get measurements before purchasing. Finally the 1.9's have an additional spacer plate between block and sump so probably worth taking that off and resealing at the same time. If you've not already check out the forums on 205gtidrivers.com.

g3org3y

20,631 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Just saw the recent vid. Fingers crossed the new problem isn't anything too serious (i.e. requiring engine out work).

Really great content, keep up the good work. thumbup

jackpe

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502 posts

164 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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g3org3y said:
Just saw the recent vid. Fingers crossed the new problem isn't anything too serious (i.e. requiring engine out work).

Really great content, keep up the good work. thumbup
Thanks chap.. for all those that don’t know, it looks like I did dose damage in the end when I boiled the InfluEnzo... video can be found here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=10-R7ttboyk


rdodger

1,088 posts

203 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Does it have some sort of water to oil cooler?

Bright Halo

2,969 posts

235 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Long shot
Is it possible oil got in there when you took the water pump off?

Slippydiff

14,834 posts

223 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Talk about adding insult to injury. £45 (I repeat FORTY FIVE quid !!!) for that water pump union... ?? Robbing bar stewards eek
Even Dick Turpin wore a mask biggrin

Really sorry the old girl's not playing ball Jack. Hope a flush and refill with fresh A/F mix sorts it, but I'm a teeny bit dubious that it will ...

MJK 24

5,648 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Does it have a heat exchanger fitted? These were notorious for failing on 80’s Golf & Scirocco with the same symptoms you have.

jackpe

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502 posts

164 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Bright Halo said:
Long shot
Is it possible oil got in there when you took the water pump off?
Unlikely! And the oil cooler does not have water in it..

Wombat3

12,164 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th June 2020
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I'd think that if its anything its either a gasket or a crack somewhere but you'd be bloody unlucky to have either. As these things go that V8 is pretty bomb proof.

It is possible with a gasket failure (on any car) that it fails in such a way that while it will let oil/gases out, it won't let water back the other way - not unknown.

Have a look down beside the plugs to see if you can see any coolant. Then I'd get hold of a cooling system pressure tester, pump it up to 1 bar & leave it overnight. Then get a block tester & solution & stick it on the expansion tank to see if there are exhaust gases in the cooling system, if there are then its probably going to have to come out. It might be possible (just) to remove the rear head in situ, but never the front one.

This method also quite useful to see/identify which cylinder might be at fault

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCo0SLeMEfk (ignore the "sermon" at the start!, the useful bit starts at about 3:45)

You might also see a discolouration on one of the plugs so worth pulling them anyway.

Plenty of threads on FChat about pulling engines & also how to get stuck heads off with a pulling plate if its needed.

As you say, won't be anything to do with the oil cooler.

Good luck & keep us posted.

Edited by Wombat3 on Thursday 4th June 11:11

shalmaneser

5,935 posts

195 months

Thursday 4th June 2020
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Just watched the vid, very unlucky. Hope this doesn't prove to be too painful but I suspect you're going to have to pull the engine.

eltax91

9,883 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th June 2020
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I think it's waaaay too far away for you, but up here in Leicestershire I have a two post lift in my garage you can use for a long weekend if you want to get your engine out. biggrin

I'd love to see you get this sorted without spending an absolute fortune!


Watchman

6,391 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th June 2020
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Get the heads off and a little porting done over the winter. I've always wondered whether there could be any more horses found in those 3-litre V8s. driving

Wombat3

12,164 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th June 2020
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Watchman said:
Get the heads off and a little porting done over the winter. I've always wondered whether there could be any more horses found in those 3-litre V8s. driving
Loads, the heads are really not very good. Gets especially interesting if you stick a 360 crank in it & take it out to 3.4 /3.5 biggrin, port the heads, change the cams, EI and/or EFI then you can get to north of 400hp drivingsmile

.....but its very expensive to do

jackpe

Original Poster:

502 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th June 2020
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Medic-one said:
If there's any Dutch documents with it you'd like translating feel free to post them here or send them over.
Very kind thanks. Unfortunately I don’t have any of the Dutch documentation!

Watchman

6,391 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th June 2020
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Wombat3 said:
Watchman said:
Get the heads off and a little porting done over the winter. I've always wondered whether there could be any more horses found in those 3-litre V8s. driving
Loads, the heads are really not very good. Gets especially interesting if you stick a 360 crank in it & take it out to 3.4 /3.5 biggrin, port the heads, change the cams, EI and/or EFI then you can get to north of 400hp drivingsmile

.....but its very expensive to do
Ah, it's only money. You can always earn more but a 400bhp 308 is priceless. wink

456mgt

2,504 posts

266 months

Thursday 4th June 2020
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Slippydiff said:
Not many really amusing threads on FChat, but I found this gem at 3 am this morning ...

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/chronicl...

Enjoy it, the guy's got a very dry, ascerbic, British SoH biggrin I'm sure you will, because you'll be able to relate to it better than most ...!!!

Truly shocking the butchery inflicted on these cars by less than proficient techs/grease monkeys over the years frown
I'm reading through it- he's hilarious!

Piersman2

6,598 posts

199 months

Thursday 4th June 2020
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I bought a 2001 Boxter S a few years baack, which appeared to run pretty well, but did have an alarming ability to drop a 007'esque smoke screen behind it if I gave it too much gas.

I spent 6 months on and off trying to work out what is was, AOS, oil/air heat exchanger etc... , nothing made much difference. But I wasn't using the car much so didn't try too hard to work it out.

Then summer came around and I used it for work for 1 whole week and it 'drank' about a litre of oil in 300 miles. Checked everything over and found the cooling system was almost solid mayonnaise! Oh st, not good.

Turned out to a cracked cylinder head allowing oil into the coolant and excessively pressuring the engine vents, etc... when giving it some, hence the huge occasional smoke screen.

It's the only time I've seen a car with oil gaining access to the coolant and not the other way round.

Slippydiff

14,834 posts

223 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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456mgt said:
I'm reading through it- he's hilarious!
Have you reached the steakhouse steering/ignition lock debacle yet ... ? hehe

jackpe

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502 posts

164 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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Grappling with the silencer this week.. something which should have been so simple! At least I got to start it up just with the headers on. It was LOUD. Video here https://youtu.be/sfggGGbVzjE