2001 Jaguar XJ8 Project
Discussion
Richieboy3008 said:
Hi,
I've got a 2001 3.2 which I'm running as a shed, I'll be getting shot (probably scrapping) September time. Let me know if you need any bits for yours and I'm sure we can do a deal. In fact I've already started putting bits on ebay.
Nice one cheers. If I need anything I'll be in contact.I've got a 2001 3.2 which I'm running as a shed, I'll be getting shot (probably scrapping) September time. Let me know if you need any bits for yours and I'm sure we can do a deal. In fact I've already started putting bits on ebay.
Edited by Richieboy3008 on Tuesday 30th June 13:59
stickleback123 said:
Just had a look, dampers are about £90-£100 per corner for "OEM" from JustJags from a quick browse, same sort of price for Bilstein OEM from Britsh Parts I don't recall them being much more than £200 for a set for my X300 so that's a surprise. I suppose they are very hard working dampers on the big Jag.
I think a decent and well sorted 4.0 X308 should be able to command a decent price; it's really getting hard to find one that isn't a nail.
CATs dampers are rather more I think unfortunately!I think a decent and well sorted 4.0 X308 should be able to command a decent price; it's really getting hard to find one that isn't a nail.
I honestly have no idea how much it'll be worth when I've finished; I suppose I'll find out...
Another very small update as stripping the suspension down progresses... This morning was the hubs in readiness to send them to the friendly Jag specialist to get the ABS rings off. So I removed the brake shields (which are terribly designed - torx head bolts under the hub so you can't get a ratchet etc on them. My Mx5 has similar but kindly have a hole in the hub in line with the bolts so you can get to everything) and ABS sensors.
One sensor didn't come out quite as smoothly as the other:
20200630_104638 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
Still, all done now and the hubs have been dropped off to have the bearings etc taken out.
20200630_104649 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
One sensor didn't come out quite as smoothly as the other:
20200630_104638 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrStill, all done now and the hubs have been dropped off to have the bearings etc taken out.
20200630_104649 by Jon Fellows, on Flickrstickleback123 said:
Lewis's Friend said:
CATs dampers are rather more I think unfortunately!
I honestly have no idea how much it'll be worth when I've finished; I suppose I'll find out...
Bugger, didn't realise it'd have CATS. Last time I looked at those they were £250 a corner... I honestly have no idea how much it'll be worth when I've finished; I suppose I'll find out...
I’m carrying on with the strip down of the front of the Jag. I currently have all the bushes out of the suspension and subframe, and am just waiting for my hubs to be stripped by the Jag specialist (special tools needed for ABS rings I believe). Some of these bushes have been a bit of a pain to say the least but the only ones that defeated me were the large subframe bushes (and this mainly as I needed them out in one piece to preserve my orientation markings) and the wishbone balljoints. These were given to my local garage as they have a 20t press and a lack of care for their own personal safety!
While waiting for my hubs back though, I cracked on with refreshing my shocks. They were getting rather scabby in places…
20200710_153552 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
I initially intended to just wire brush the loose rubbish off, but this turned into sanding back to bare metal!
20200710_165826 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
I then degreased and gave them a couple of coats of Bilt Hamber Hydrate 80. The first time I’ve used it, but I was impressed; as long as it lasts/keeps the rust at bay I shall be very impressed.
Mid second application.
20200710_180344 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
And all dried off.
20200710_175834 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
Lastly, a couple of coats of POR15 and they look pretty smart. They just need new bushes and they’re done. Small wins…!
20200714_100843 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
While waiting for my hubs back though, I cracked on with refreshing my shocks. They were getting rather scabby in places…
20200710_153552 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrI initially intended to just wire brush the loose rubbish off, but this turned into sanding back to bare metal!
20200710_165826 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrI then degreased and gave them a couple of coats of Bilt Hamber Hydrate 80. The first time I’ve used it, but I was impressed; as long as it lasts/keeps the rust at bay I shall be very impressed.
Mid second application.
20200710_180344 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrAnd all dried off.
20200710_175834 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrLastly, a couple of coats of POR15 and they look pretty smart. They just need new bushes and they’re done. Small wins…!
20200714_100843 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrAnother very small update, but showing progress is still ongoing... Today I did an initial degrease and jetwash of the underside of the car in readiness for wirebrushing etc to commence.
I got soaked and filthy, but at least I can see what I'm up against now!
20200716_103427 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
To be honest, it's not awful, but good to treat it and stop the demon rust as much as possible as soon as possible.
This is fairly representative of the whole underside.
20200716_112855 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
I actually found that the suspension components were in a much worse state and made the whole underside look bad. With them removed, it all seems less severe; but good to protect as already said. So small progress again!
I got soaked and filthy, but at least I can see what I'm up against now!
20200716_103427 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrTo be honest, it's not awful, but good to treat it and stop the demon rust as much as possible as soon as possible.
This is fairly representative of the whole underside.
20200716_112855 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrI actually found that the suspension components were in a much worse state and made the whole underside look bad. With them removed, it all seems less severe; but good to protect as already said. So small progress again!
Yesterday I finally managed to drop all the bits off to the powder coaters for blasting and finishing. My pile of bits went from this:
20200629_115956 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
to this (after much pressing, cutting and chiselling):
20200720_144527 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
All laid out partly for a nice 'before' shot of all the bits and partly as an inventory shot before sending everything away.
I dropped the parts off to the place that also did the same job on my Mx5, so I know they do a good job. Hopefully I'll have the bits back in a couple of weeks. Though no urgent rush as all the rust protecting still needs to be done!
20200721_140946 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
20200629_115956 by Jon Fellows, on Flickrto this (after much pressing, cutting and chiselling):
20200720_144527 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrAll laid out partly for a nice 'before' shot of all the bits and partly as an inventory shot before sending everything away.
I dropped the parts off to the place that also did the same job on my Mx5, so I know they do a good job. Hopefully I'll have the bits back in a couple of weeks. Though no urgent rush as all the rust protecting still needs to be done!
20200721_140946 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrLewis's Friend said:
Jaguar steve said:
The reinforcing plate where the V mounts for the front sub frame bolt on is a known corrosion area.
I'm aware these are weak spots, but is the weakness on the subframe or car body where the V mounts?Thanks for the feedback by the way.
Plates corrode on the body between the plate itself and the inner wing. Clue its going on is bulges underneath the underseal.
Jaguar steve said:
Welcome
Plates corrode on the body between the plate itself and the inner wing. Clue its going on is bulges underneath the underseal.
Cheers for that. Mine are OK happily having looked, but will definitely benefit from being protected as I can see where it would start to get hold from. Plates corrode on the body between the plate itself and the inner wing. Clue its going on is bulges underneath the underseal.
Lovely car and nice to see it getting some tlc.
We bought one of these in Xjr form, unseen, from ebay last year. Gave it an oil change, new belts and a fuel line then drove it down to Croatia and back - 3000 miles and didn't miss a beat. Was supposed to sell on, but they're so pretty and such a nice way to get around, that I can't bring myself to do it.
We bought one of these in Xjr form, unseen, from ebay last year. Gave it an oil change, new belts and a fuel line then drove it down to Croatia and back - 3000 miles and didn't miss a beat. Was supposed to sell on, but they're so pretty and such a nice way to get around, that I can't bring myself to do it.
Work has been going on on the Jag, so this is a bit of a mid-underseal report.
My original plan was to treat the whole underside from the front all the way back as far as I could reasonably reach with only the front jacked up and to do so all in one go. However, I somehow forgot how long it takes to properly wire-brush, rust cure etc. To do it this way would have left bare metal exposed for days on end! So the plan has been modified to do the work in sections. First the passenger side wheel arch area, then the drivers. The floorpan going back will be attacked after the arches are all nicely treated.
Do, pictures to prove the words…!
After degreasing the underside of the car, it was wire-brushed with a variety of knotted brushes on a drill and angle grinder (slightly lethal!). The worst area was actually the inside of the wing where the splash guard doesn’t protect – pretty poor design from Jaguar really, but caught in time and properly protected it should now be good.
Wing state before:
20200725_132807 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
And after wire brushing:
20200725_132730 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
And more pictures after loose crud removal. This was a very filthy job!
20200728_124937 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
20200728_110338 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
This was the degreased angain, and Bilt Hamber Hydrox 80 applied. The difference in the pictures is minimal, but actually it goes quite a nice silvery-purple in person…
20200804_171127 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
20200729_105425 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
After this had dried, I used the BH 2-pack Epoxy Mastic. This was also a messy job but seems clever stuff. It’s quite thin to put on but covers well – and hopefully protects well. It’s nice when its all one colour under there. Far neater!
20200804_160524 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
20200804_170731 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
Next will be a coat of Dynax UB for extra protection, then move back down the car to do it all over again!
My original plan was to treat the whole underside from the front all the way back as far as I could reasonably reach with only the front jacked up and to do so all in one go. However, I somehow forgot how long it takes to properly wire-brush, rust cure etc. To do it this way would have left bare metal exposed for days on end! So the plan has been modified to do the work in sections. First the passenger side wheel arch area, then the drivers. The floorpan going back will be attacked after the arches are all nicely treated.
Do, pictures to prove the words…!
After degreasing the underside of the car, it was wire-brushed with a variety of knotted brushes on a drill and angle grinder (slightly lethal!). The worst area was actually the inside of the wing where the splash guard doesn’t protect – pretty poor design from Jaguar really, but caught in time and properly protected it should now be good.
Wing state before:
20200725_132807 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrAnd after wire brushing:
20200725_132730 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrAnd more pictures after loose crud removal. This was a very filthy job!
20200728_124937 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr20200728_110338 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrThis was the degreased angain, and Bilt Hamber Hydrox 80 applied. The difference in the pictures is minimal, but actually it goes quite a nice silvery-purple in person…
20200804_171127 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr20200729_105425 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrAfter this had dried, I used the BH 2-pack Epoxy Mastic. This was also a messy job but seems clever stuff. It’s quite thin to put on but covers well – and hopefully protects well. It’s nice when its all one colour under there. Far neater!
20200804_160524 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr20200804_170731 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrNext will be a coat of Dynax UB for extra protection, then move back down the car to do it all over again!
Jaguar steve said:
AceOfHearts said:
Let me know when you sell this one please, i'm still gutted i never bought your X350 
You're behind me in the queue I'm afraid.LF's XJ has had more love in the last few weeks than mine has in the last 11 years.
It should be nice when it's done, but of course then the problem is looking for the next project and a finite amount of space (and money) to keep the cars!
Time for a quick intermediate update... The work is progressing slowly, and I've just got all the bits back from the powder coaters. I must say they have come up very well, though it took a week of phone calls to actually get the bits done. Still, finished now!
I've therefore started to fit the new bushes/balljoints to the wishbones. It's much nicer working with new and clean parts!
20200827_095623 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
Less clean is the continued work to protect the underside of the car - the same process as the wheel arch area is followed; namely wire brush, de-grease, rust-cure twice, epoxy mastic and then underseal. This is soul and neck destroying lying on your back on the driveway, so I've been doing it in sections. Both wheel arch areas are done up to the epoxy stage, and now the P/S floor back to the rear jacking point (behind this will be done when I pull the rear end apart).
So a poor picture of the rust-cure going off:
20200824_095750 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
And epoxy applied:
20200827_095935 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
That's it for now though...!
I've therefore started to fit the new bushes/balljoints to the wishbones. It's much nicer working with new and clean parts!
20200827_095623 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrLess clean is the continued work to protect the underside of the car - the same process as the wheel arch area is followed; namely wire brush, de-grease, rust-cure twice, epoxy mastic and then underseal. This is soul and neck destroying lying on your back on the driveway, so I've been doing it in sections. Both wheel arch areas are done up to the epoxy stage, and now the P/S floor back to the rear jacking point (behind this will be done when I pull the rear end apart).
So a poor picture of the rust-cure going off:
20200824_095750 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrAnd epoxy applied:
20200827_095935 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrThat's it for now though...!
For anyone still kind enough to display an interest in this long-drawn-out refresh, a small update on progress...
Not a lot may have appeared to have changed in pictures, but in fact I have coated the wheel arches with Dynax UB. This looks exactly the same as before, but I have taken a few more pictures anyway!
Mid painting of the UB:
20200905_111631 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
and the finished product (looking indistinguishable from when it had just the epoxy mastic on it!):
20200907_104501 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
I have also been indulging my inner OCD and wirebrushing all of the bolts I'm reusing. Some have old threadlock on which needs cleaning off so new can be effectively applied, but I'm also just cleaning up the heads and rust curing those too. Then when they are fitted, I'll paint them in POR15. This is pointless and no one will ever know apart from me (and you if you read this) - I don't really know why I'm doing it, which is probably how madness begins...
2020-09-08_11-22-49 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
I have also been building up the subframe ready for refitting. First was to fit the rear bushes, which are round but must be orientated exactly where to old ones were. This was a pain, but eventually I got there. This is mid fitting with various bits of metal to help:
20200829_143255 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
I then fitted the new V-mounts and offered up the subframe to check the alignment of all the bushes - it was good which was something of a relief!
20200902_162940 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
And then lower wishbones:
20200904_171943 by Jon Fellows, on Flickr
I'm now waiting for the hubs to be rebuilt then I'll fit them and the top wishbones and the whole lot can be fitted to the car (with help - it's heavy!)
Not a lot may have appeared to have changed in pictures, but in fact I have coated the wheel arches with Dynax UB. This looks exactly the same as before, but I have taken a few more pictures anyway!
Mid painting of the UB:
20200905_111631 by Jon Fellows, on Flickrand the finished product (looking indistinguishable from when it had just the epoxy mastic on it!):
20200907_104501 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrI have also been indulging my inner OCD and wirebrushing all of the bolts I'm reusing. Some have old threadlock on which needs cleaning off so new can be effectively applied, but I'm also just cleaning up the heads and rust curing those too. Then when they are fitted, I'll paint them in POR15. This is pointless and no one will ever know apart from me (and you if you read this) - I don't really know why I'm doing it, which is probably how madness begins...
2020-09-08_11-22-49 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrI have also been building up the subframe ready for refitting. First was to fit the rear bushes, which are round but must be orientated exactly where to old ones were. This was a pain, but eventually I got there. This is mid fitting with various bits of metal to help:
20200829_143255 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrI then fitted the new V-mounts and offered up the subframe to check the alignment of all the bushes - it was good which was something of a relief!
20200902_162940 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrAnd then lower wishbones:
20200904_171943 by Jon Fellows, on FlickrI'm now waiting for the hubs to be rebuilt then I'll fit them and the top wishbones and the whole lot can be fitted to the car (with help - it's heavy!)
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