Nissan Skyline R32 GTR - Group.. A?

Nissan Skyline R32 GTR - Group.. A?

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Das speck

555 posts

167 months

Friday 11th September 2020
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Nice vid.

As much as I like tig welding I also hate it. I kinda don’t bother with it for steel unless I’m really feeling it, the mig does it so a much quicker and I’m better at it!

I know I say summit awkward every time I post and here it is - did you check that metal sleeve that you reused was suitable to be welded?

Scalino

121 posts

90 months

Friday 11th September 2020
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Really enjoying the videos! Both a very interesting build and nice presentation!

alexcrosse

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152 posts

145 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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Das speck said:
Nice vid.

As much as I like tig welding I also hate it. I kinda don’t bother with it for steel unless I’m really feeling it, the mig does it so a much quicker and I’m better at it!

I know I say summit awkward every time I post and here it is - did you check that metal sleeve that you reused was suitable to be welded?
Cheers mate!

Yeah, it was a mix of getting some TIG practice, wanting flat unlinished welds, and Shane was using my MIG on his cosworth smile

Lol, i like awkward questions. All I did was sparked it a little bit and ran a file on it. Just behaved like mild steel, wasn't hardened or high carbon. Another advantage of TIG, you can see how the weld pool is behaving and how clean it is. Where as if it was different on MIG the weld would kind of look normal, but wouldn't be stuck to one side.


Scalino said:
Really enjoying the videos! Both a very interesting build and nice presentation!
Cheers! glad you're enjoying it smile

Das speck

555 posts

167 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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alexcrosse said:
Cheers! glad you're enjoying it smile
Yeh I keep seeing the cossie in the background. Mind me asking what the spec will be? I had a few back in the day,

https://youtu.be/QxPhIU0u2cc

When I did my beam bushes I ended up making some up on the lathe rather than buying them and I went though the pros and cons and then lost interest and had a play on the lathe.

alexcrosse

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152 posts

145 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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Got a blast cabinet and made it less awful. Good to be able to clean stuff properly without leaving the unit!

Yes I know vapour is better, but this can do multiple media, still gets a good finish on ally, and I can use soda for wash clean items.


Das speck

555 posts

167 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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I like polished alloy too.

The cars gonna be really nice with the effort you’re putting in when it’s done.

frayz

2,629 posts

160 months

Sunday 13th September 2020
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Loving the gaffer tape Darlek haha. Looks like somethng you'd take into show and tell, but cool that it works and the cheapo cabinet seems to have been a right result. Even sped up it takes ages doesnt it, but satisfying seeing bits come back to new.

ACF50 i gather you're talking about. Great stuff, just dont get it near any kind of braking/friction surface lol. It works really well at keeping things protected but it is a fine oil mist and i find it works better at protecting stuff thats already got some kind of protection on it anyway. On bare alloy, you'll need to keep applying it regularly.
You may want to look at the likes of Dynax UC from Bilt Hamber. Dynax UB is also excellent, however this is a dark brown colour. UC is clear.
This is basically a clear wax type coating which will be longer lasting then ACF. However if this is purely a track car and is unlikely to see any kind of nasty weather, ACF may be enough.

ACF is magic for things like threads on coilovers, airjacks and things with threads you'll want to adjust in future. I run a set of AST coilovers on my daily driver which i use all year round. When i fitted them i coated them in ACF 50 and get some coilover covers from Motamec, when the covers come off and they get a wipe down, they look brand new.smile

alexcrosse

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152 posts

145 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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Das speck said:
I like polished alloy too.

The cars gonna be really nice with the effort you’re putting in when it’s done.
Thanks mate, i really hope so

frayz said:
Loving the gaffer tape Darlek haha. Looks like somethng you'd take into show and tell, but cool that it works and the cheapo cabinet seems to have been a right result. Even sped up it takes ages doesnt it, but satisfying seeing bits come back to new.

ACF50 i gather you're talking about. Great stuff, just dont get it near any kind of braking/friction surface lol. It works really well at keeping things protected but it is a fine oil mist and i find it works better at protecting stuff thats already got some kind of protection on it anyway. On bare alloy, you'll need to keep applying it regularly.
You may want to look at the likes of Dynax UC from Bilt Hamber. Dynax UB is also excellent, however this is a dark brown colour. UC is clear.
This is basically a clear wax type coating which will be longer lasting then ACF. However if this is purely a track car and is unlikely to see any kind of nasty weather, ACF may be enough.

ACF is magic for things like threads on coilovers, airjacks and things with threads you'll want to adjust in future. I run a set of AST coilovers on my daily driver which i use all year round. When i fitted them i coated them in ACF 50 and get some coilover covers from Motamec, when the covers come off and they get a wipe down, they look brand new.smile
Ah cheers for all the good info! The car wont be used on the road much, but the comedy value of driving it to work will be too great to resist sometimes.

does the Dynax UC go hard? Or does it end up picking up dirt and grime?

Ahh now you've got me tempted to coat the air jacks with it... I'll have to wait until its on the floor I guess.

MDifficult

2,055 posts

186 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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For my sins, I've watched all your videos so far and have to admit to being very attached to the project now - can't wait to see how it turns out.

Unlike many, MANY build videos on YouTube, your entertaining and informative (and self-deprecating) presenting style is really easy to watch, and your range of skill and knowledge is fascinating.

I also really admire your ability to 'just give it a go', plus your rate of progress. It also really helps that each episode is really well edited and contains at least one bloody good laugh laugh

Keep it up - I'm on tenterhooks. thumbup

alexcrosse

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152 posts

145 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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MDifficult said:
For my sins, I've watched all your videos so far and have to admit to being very attached to the project now - can't wait to see how it turns out.

Unlike many, MANY build videos on YouTube, your entertaining and informative (and self-deprecating) presenting style is really easy to watch, and your range of skill and knowledge is fascinating.

I also really admire your ability to 'just give it a go', plus your rate of progress. It also really helps that each episode is really well edited and contains at least one bloody good laugh laugh

Keep it up - I'm on tenterhooks. thumbup
cheers man that was a really nice thing to read.

I'm going for the 'jack of all trades master of none' build. I said to a mate the other day that I find it a lot better to be disappointed in my own work rather than someone else's.

The videos really help the rate of progress I think. I do apply some engineering practices to project planning (which obviously I don't include in the videos because they're deathly boring for most, design structure matrices etc) but the videos act as a bit of a metronome for me, so i'll be keeping it up for now!

Thanks again smile

alexcrosse

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152 posts

145 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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Bit of a weird one..

I'm not sure how long these arms will stay on. I'd like to make tubular arms... but then do I wait until I change pick up points?

For getting the car rolling, I've done these. It's made an incredible difference to stiffness, quite shocking how bad the arms are to begin with.



Pedal box up next... been excited about it for a very long time.

frayz

2,629 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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alexcrosse said:
Ah cheers for all the good info! The car wont be used on the road much, but the comedy value of driving it to work will be too great to resist sometimes.

does the Dynax UC go hard? Or does it end up picking up dirt and grime?

Ahh now you've got me tempted to coat the air jacks with it... I'll have to wait until its on the floor I guess.
Stays like a semi hard wax. I've used alot of the UB on my Clio and it seems to get a layer of dust on it and thats it. This is my daily driver though. smile

frayz

2,629 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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NIce job on the arms Alex.
What many probabaly dont appreciate is the relentless cost of doing all this. All the little odds and ends like materials, consumables blah blah. So you cant expect to do all of it in one go. You'll also be learning along the way that mean the tubular bits once made will be of a better design/standard than if you were to make them now. Black zinc looks great but it really does show whatevers underneath, so get the parts as pretty as you can beforehand smile

alexcrosse

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152 posts

145 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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frayz said:
NIce job on the arms Alex.
What many probabaly dont appreciate is the relentless cost of doing all this. All the little odds and ends like materials, consumables blah blah. So you cant expect to do all of it in one go. You'll also be learning along the way that mean the tubular bits once made will be of a better design/standard than if you were to make them now. Black zinc looks great but it really does show whatevers underneath, so get the parts as pretty as you can beforehand smile
It's pretty horrendous. Man logic vs bank balance.

The black zinc will certainly be a recce, but it'll be nice just to drop everything off in one place. The initial cleanlyness is a big concern, but... worst case I'll just paint the subframe and arms. I've constantly got in my mind that they'll not be there for more than a couple years. (arms and subframe).

frayz

2,629 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2020
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alexcrosse said:
frayz said:
NIce job on the arms Alex.
What many probabaly dont appreciate is the relentless cost of doing all this. All the little odds and ends like materials, consumables blah blah. So you cant expect to do all of it in one go. You'll also be learning along the way that mean the tubular bits once made will be of a better design/standard than if you were to make them now. Black zinc looks great but it really does show whatevers underneath, so get the parts as pretty as you can beforehand smile
It's pretty horrendous. Man logic vs bank balance.

The black zinc will certainly be a recce, but it'll be nice just to drop everything off in one place. The initial cleanlyness is a big concern, but... worst case I'll just paint the subframe and arms. I've constantly got in my mind that they'll not be there for more than a couple years. (arms and subframe).
Exactly. And they’re not exactly going to rot away in that time.

alexcrosse

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152 posts

145 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Been a while.. here's an update.

I'm not sure if I'm over thinking the video and sound quality / issues. But I think I've reached the end of my gopro career. Thing is total rubbish.


Mark Benson

7,521 posts

270 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Can't say I've noticed the sound being too bad Alex, it certainly doesn't affect my enjoyment.

Looking forward to catching up with the latest instalment tonight, was on YT last night wondering if you'd updated recently.

frayz

2,629 posts

160 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Sounds fine mate.

Your TIG work is really coming on well. The welds on the bias adjuster tube looked particularly sweet.
Stellar job on knocking up the whole brake box from sheet too. Most folk simply couldnt be arsed with that amount of time into such a small part of the car.

These details are what sets this build apart, such an addictive watch smile

Davie_GLA

6,525 posts

200 months

Friday 16th October 2020
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Spot on. You genuinely get a kick out of something when it fits well. As a result of proper planning and attention to detail.

Finished it yet? I was having a browse both on here and the web for “unfinished projects”. Anyone remember the 147 GTR build that stalled due to unforeseen circumstances? There was also the viper engined kit car on passion ford, of all places.

Andy Forrest is building an LS V8 caterham with turbos at the moment. Quality projects.

alexcrosse

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152 posts

145 months

Friday 16th October 2020
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Cheers guys! The sound issues are in two parts really. I get stressed over the offset occasionally on clips, but this could easily be me overthinking it. The worst part is the lack of it... often ill look at a days worth of film and half the sound will be totally missing.

Cheers for the TIG complement Frayz, improving it is a very satisfying gradual process. Does require quite the argon investment though lol. This pedal box was something I really wanted to get right, but its probably the least documented part on the cars. I have to say that sheet metal plugins in modern CAD software are a god send!

Don't worry Davie, this'll get finished wink I miss it too much. I was at Donington the other day and I cant wait to red mist this thing through the craner curves. I think the wiring loom and engine will be the next slow bits. Other than that there's a lot of clean up & bolt on bits.