The Elan M100 "Doer Upper"

The Elan M100 "Doer Upper"

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CallMeLegend

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8,782 posts

211 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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The LED main beam appears to work quite well, my mounting rings were rottenso I 3d printed some in SLS Nylon PA12.





Bonded in some bushes to make a strong M4 thread.





Once cured I trimmed off the glue squeeze & test assembled it all using new, flange head M5 screws.







And in it goes.



Once the other side is done I'll get some night time photos to see what the difference in brightness is.

DuncanM

6,210 posts

280 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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Absolutely superb OP, I've always loved these cars!

Your ingenuity, and detailed explanations, make great reading smile

shirt

22,618 posts

202 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Great thread, bookmarked!

I joined LEC forum recently and recognized your username there also. I just picked these 2 up and starting to form a plan of attack.








Luke.

11,002 posts

251 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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shirt said:
Great thread, bookmarked!

I joined LEC forum recently and recognized your username there also. I just picked these 2 up and starting to form a plan of attack.







Christ, someone really hated that red one.

CallMeLegend

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8,782 posts

211 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Now I know the LED main beams fit properly it was time to strip down so I could strip & repaint the metal mounting plate as they were both very rusty, I de rusted them with Bilt Hamber Deox-C, 3 coats of etch primer, then 2 coats of satin black. The RH one needs some thread repairs too as the M4 threads are damaged, this will be done with a flush fit rivnut.








Edited by CallMeLegend on Monday 19th October 09:15

B'stard Child

28,450 posts

247 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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CallMeLegend said:
After a pretty fruitless search for door lock escutcheons that were a price I was happy with (£40 each is a bit steep) I took matters into my own hands.

I measured, modelled in CAD & had 3d printed in carbon fibre reinforced SLS a replacement to see if it was a viable proposition.

It is. A minor change to the profile is required to get it sitting down slightly better, but I happy overall. The best bit if I need another I just hit the online print button & it arrives in the post.















I'm convinced given the vast range of materials the 3d printing will help keep many a classic car on the road in the future. I addition to the plastics the metal printing technology is improving beyond belief, steel, aluminium & Ti can all be readily printed with mechanical properties matching a die cast part of the same material.

Edited by CallMeLegend on Friday 17th July 11:45
Who printed them off for you - very close to the one in my Carlton and mine are cracked where they screw into the door

CallMeLegend

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211 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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B'stard Child said:
CallMeLegend said:
After a pretty fruitless search for door lock escutcheons that were a price I was happy with (£40 each is a bit steep) I took matters into my own hands.

I measured, modelled in CAD & had 3d printed in carbon fibre reinforced SLS a replacement to see if it was a viable proposition.

It is. A minor change to the profile is required to get it sitting down slightly better, but I happy overall. The best bit if I need another I just hit the online print button & it arrives in the post.















I'm convinced given the vast range of materials the 3d printing will help keep many a classic car on the road in the future. I addition to the plastics the metal printing technology is improving beyond belief, steel, aluminium & Ti can all be readily printed with mechanical properties matching a die cast part of the same material.

Edited by CallMeLegend on Friday 17th July 11:45
Who printed them off for you - very close to the one in my Carlton and mine are cracked where they screw into the door
They are the same as Carlton units. In an ideal world I would have had them scanned, but I did a model myself & got them printed.



CallMeLegend

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211 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Managed to salvage the old headlight mount that needed repairs. It was quite rusty, so there is quite a lot of pitting visible, also had 2 out of 3 threaded holes damaged, these holes mount the headlight to pod, so had to be repaired, I used some thin sheet, flush fit Rivnuts.




B'stard Child

28,450 posts

247 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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CallMeLegend said:
B'stard Child said:
CallMeLegend said:
After a pretty fruitless search for door lock escutcheons that were a price I was happy with (£40 each is a bit steep) I took matters into my own hands.

I measured, modelled in CAD & had 3d printed in carbon fibre reinforced SLS a replacement to see if it was a viable proposition.

It is. A minor change to the profile is required to get it sitting down slightly better, but I happy overall. The best bit if I need another I just hit the online print button & it arrives in the post.















I'm convinced given the vast range of materials the 3d printing will help keep many a classic car on the road in the future. I addition to the plastics the metal printing technology is improving beyond belief, steel, aluminium & Ti can all be readily printed with mechanical properties matching a die cast part of the same material.

Edited by CallMeLegend on Friday 17th July 11:45
Who printed them off for you - very close to the one in my Carlton and mine are cracked where they screw into the door
They are the same as Carlton units. In an ideal world I would have had them scanned, but I did a model myself & got them printed.
Could you give me an idea of cost please?

CallMeLegend

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Monday 19th October 2020
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B'stard Child said:
Could you give me an idea of cost please?
About £15-20 each depending on material

B'stard Child

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247 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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CallMeLegend said:
B'stard Child said:
Could you give me an idea of cost please?
About £15-20 each depending on material
That's impressive - I can see lots of things being reproduced in this way in the future - trim parts and clips are always the hardest stuff to source


CallMeLegend

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8,782 posts

211 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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B'stard Child said:
CallMeLegend said:
B'stard Child said:
Could you give me an idea of cost please?
About £15-20 each depending on material
That's impressive - I can see lots of things being reproduced in this way in the future - trim parts and clips are always the hardest stuff to source
Yep, I can see it saving lot's of cars, I'm working on building a business up to offer a full reverse engineering solution for unobtanium parts.

Oilchange

8,468 posts

261 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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B'stard Child said:
That's impressive - I can see lots of things being reproduced in this way in the future - trim parts and clips are always the hardest stuff to source
If it were me and the part was intact but cracked, I'd mix a bit of 2 part epoxy and snip some carbon fibre thread offcuts (about 2-5mm long), mix it all in and make a repair using that on the inner side so it's not visible (it'll be black anyway). Tamp it all down with a lollypop stick until smooth.
It will harden super stiff and possibly save a lot of money on printed parts but if that's the way you prefer

I repaired a plastic bumper crossbeam on my daughters Mito that had cracked (don't ask!) the bit that holds all stuff at the front together, it's rock solid. Took 5 minutes.

CallMeLegend

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211 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Oilchange said:
B'stard Child said:
That's impressive - I can see lots of things being reproduced in this way in the future - trim parts and clips are always the hardest stuff to source
If it were me and the part was intact but cracked, I'd mix a bit of 2 part epoxy and snip some carbon fibre thread offcuts (about 2-5mm long), mix it all in and make a repair using that on the inner side so it's not visible (it'll be black anyway). Tamp it all down with a lollypop stick until smooth.
It will harden super stiff and possibly save a lot of money on printed parts but if that's the way you prefer

I repaired a plastic bumper crossbeam on my daughters Mito that had cracked (don't ask!) the bit that holds all stuff at the front together, it's rock solid. Took 5 minutes.
Take a look at the door card repairs I carried out, where things can be repaired I will.

When the parts are either missing, or to badly broken to repair replacement os the only option.


Edited by CallMeLegend on Tuesday 20th October 08:04

Oilchange

8,468 posts

261 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Have to admit, though, the printed stuff is genius thumbup

CallMeLegend

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8,782 posts

211 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Got the LED main beams in, nice bright, white light, I do need to adjust the aim though.






CallMeLegend

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211 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Thanks to Geoff from LEC I have a glovebox, of the right type to fit to Missy.

It strikes me that the design of the "hinge" (if you can call it that) it spectacularly.....er....dog eggs.



Just a single piece of very thin plastic, I'm going to design & possibly print a stiffener for this area, yes it could be done with a simple piece of sheet aluminium, but something that closely matches the original colour & looks like a moulded plastic part will be nicer......

As usual watch this space for updates.

motomk

2,153 posts

245 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
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Great read and the 3D printing stuff is ingenious!
When I was reading it, I thought I recognised the part you have printed. It is also from a 1989-1997 VN-VS Holden Commodore.
Sadly Holden was closed by General Motors earlier this year, but a good few years ago they teamed up with Rare Spares to make spare parts for the older cars. The part you have 3D printed, the door knob surround is available from them.


CallMeLegend

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211 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
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motomk said:
Great read and the 3D printing stuff is ingenious!
When I was reading it, I thought I recognised the part you have printed. It is also from a 1989-1997 VN-VS Holden Commodore.
Sadly Holden was closed by General Motors earlier this year, but a good few years ago they teamed up with Rare Spares to make spare parts for the older cars. The part you have 3D printed, the door knob surround is available from them.

They do, but even without postage they are twice the price of the 3d printed part

CallMeLegend

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211 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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Despite the lack of updates things have been happening slowly.

I'm about to embark on stripping the electric window mechanism down to clean, repair & relube, so I'll be needing the butterfly clips that attach the window to the mechanism, yes, 3d printing to the recuse.

These parts are available of the shelf, but there is also a CAD model in circulation, and this works out cheaper.



Also, The small pieces of trim that finish off the top of the door card are missing, so I found one good one from a friend & that enabled me to get a 3d scan done & print off 2 exact replicas in laser sintered Graphite.

The original


The 3d printed parts