The shediest ML in the WORLD (possibly)

The shediest ML in the WORLD (possibly)

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rich12

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Friday 24th July 2020
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sbk1972 said:
My ML55 has 16 plugs. Swapping them out is a joy. Rear ones are painful. Easier to remove the drivers wheel / liner to reach them.

SImon
Remove the wheel liner? Didn't realise they were so low down.

rich12

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BrettMRC said:
Yep!

Luckily it's that much of a pain to get out, and everything is much easier with it removed.
So the passenger side is a doddle?

rich12

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Monday 27th July 2020
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Going to an lpg place tomorrow to get them to look at why the system is t working correctly.

In other news, I need to attach something to the exhaust as it drones far too much and doing a 300 mile round trip every other weekend isn't going to be fun.

Can't seem to find a box/silencer etc anywhere.

Any cheapo solutions?

rich12

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Monday 27th July 2020
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Slow said:
Universal clamp on backbox and coat hanger wire.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264375341387

Something like this, just see what size your pipes are.
A backbox in the middle of the car? Would that work?

rich12

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Monday 27th July 2020
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Slow said:
Oh are you looking to go to the back? Thought you just wanted to basically cap off the pipe where it is currently.

If there is space then it can happily sit in the middle of the car.
The 2 pipes underneath the car, just want to put something there to stop the droning.

rich12

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Slow said:
Then as long as there is space to fit backboxes in there then its fine. Dont get like a 3" into 5" type of box or the noise wont get better.
Yeh they'll be space as the centre box I took out was probably about 750mm long.
It's 2 pipes so I'll have to measure the distance between the 2 and try and find a way to buy one that has 2 in one out.

Is a silencer a silencer? Found one for a ml350 but no idea how they'd be different.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274339487329
(That's too much to spend by the way)


Edited by rich12 on Monday 27th July 21:43

rich12

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Tuesday 28th July 2020
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This is the one that seems to be used in America.



So seems to be a 2 1/2 inlet/outlet.

My question is, obviously it doesn't have any hangers and it'll be too much weight to hang off the 2 pipes so how can I secure it?

rich12

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Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Should I not have 2 fans infront of the radiator?

rich12

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BrettMRC said:
Do you have AC?

Presume the main fan is still on the engine...
AC doesn't work but assumed it was because it had no gas laugh
Fan behind the rad is there and car doesn't overheat.

rich12

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Jimmy Recard said:
I don’t think mine has fans in front of the rad, but it is a diesel so things like that could be different. Air con works on it too
My dad says his 350 does have fans so weird. Had a look and I can't see any plugs hanging loose.

rich12

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Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Uh oh.

rich12

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Thursday 30th July 2020
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sbk1972 said:
Nope. 270 / 500 / 55 use a fan module and separate fan. The other petrol engines have dual fans.

The fan module is fed `CAN` information meaning it's just not on or off but works at different speeds depending on heat / temp. If you stand at the front, look down, `behind the rad, left hand side, at the top, you will see some wires under a cover. This is where the CAN connects to the module, and + and - from the battery

I had to replace my fan module (£100 on ebay) as the previous owner cut it out and replaced it with a probe / relay. It's feed by a 100amp at the battery terminal, little square fuse.

If the fan module fails then it defaults to `on` at top speed. However it it fails due to no power then you're buggered but a light should some on the dash. orange / rad pic. Switch your AC on and the fan should switch on.

I have a secondary fan on mine. I installed a `push` fan on the front of the rad, and a Davies Craig probe / relay setup. This means that Ive set the probe / relay to go off at 84' (rad temp). This helps cooling and has saved me twice when the fan module stopped working.

i could bore you for hours on the cooling system on these MLs :-) You also have a secondary water pump. Look at the engine, right hand side of battery, there is a boosch electric pump. Mine was siezed when I brought mine. 80 quid on amazon. This continues to pump water when the engine is switched off to prevent hot spots. IT also helps cooling. check yours, bet its siezed. Switch car off and feel it, it should be buzzing away.

Simon

Edited by sbk1972 on Thursday 30th July 08:40
Hi Simon,

Great info.
So just to clarify, my car is not missing 2 smaller fans?

Do you know what temp the main fan should come on at? I left it running after changing the coolant to about 90 and the fan still wasn't on.


rich12

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Thursday 30th July 2020
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sbk1972 said:
Hi

Your car doesnt have front dual fans.

Depends on whether AC is on, or off. Using my secondary probe / relay, which has a LCD screen on it. My OEM fan comes on at 84' at the Rad. This is rad temp which is about 10' cooler than the thermostat housing sensor, so 94/95.

The dashboard temp gauge does move up and down. At first this worried me as coming from my BMW m3 where the temp gauge stayed mid way all the time.

Take a look on this US forum. It pretty much has every question you will ever ask, with manuals, etc.

https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w163-m-class.35/
Thank you.

Seems changing the coolant didn't help my little LPG dilemma so perhaps it is the reducer/vaporiser.

rich12

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Monday 24th August 2020
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BrettMRC said:
Fitted a supercharger yet?
No but the new owner may do laugh

I sold it a few weeks ago. It was sell it or spend loads of money on it which didn't make sense for a cat C leggy 19 year old car.
Ripping the exhaust off wasn't a great idea either.


rich12

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Monday 24th August 2020
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BrettMRC said:
Top work! hehe

I can recommend big engined X5's if you still like looking for trouble? biggrin
I bought a leggy 167k miles XC90 with devil juice. I think that's bad enough.

Did want another X5 but around me, they're all owned by wrong'uns.