I bought an SV - BIG Build thread

I bought an SV - BIG Build thread

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camel_landy

4,901 posts

183 months

Monday 4th December 2023
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Evanivitch said:
alisdairm said:
Is £105k the going rate for a 90% finished adventure truck?

I really liked following this build, and its shame the big fella isn't going to enjoy the truck after all the time and money he put into this. Hope he's OK.
It's on the lower end.

https://expeditionmeister.com/for-sale/expedition-...
Maybe for a completed vehicle but the "Habitation Box" still requires fitting out. I'd be putting this at the top end on the 'project' scale but at least the mechanical side of things appear to be sorted.

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Evanivitch

20,078 posts

122 months

Monday 4th December 2023
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camel_landy said:
Maybe for a completed vehicle but the "Habitation Box" still requires fitting out. I'd be putting this at the top end on the 'project' scale but at least the mechanical side of things appear to be sorted.

M
Similar spec trucks with interiors are going for 250k+....

ChocolateFrog

25,359 posts

173 months

Monday 4th December 2023
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ConnectionError said:
Ah that's a shame, never even used in anger. Price seems punchy considering its still an empty shell.

ChocolateFrog

25,359 posts

173 months

Monday 4th December 2023
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Evanivitch said:
camel_landy said:
Maybe for a completed vehicle but the "Habitation Box" still requires fitting out. I'd be putting this at the top end on the 'project' scale but at least the mechanical side of things appear to be sorted.

M
Similar spec trucks with interiors are going for 250k+....
Is anyone buying though?

Seems an awful lot of money, the trucks themselves a dirt cheap and do you really need to give 230 grand to a company to fit one out?


ChocolateFrog

25,359 posts

173 months

Monday 4th December 2023
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Listed for sale in my home town.

Edit. Next to what used to be Motorhog. You could walk to it from my old work in 5 minutes and I never even knew they were there, small world.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Monday 4th December 21:50

camel_landy

4,901 posts

183 months

Monday 4th December 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
Evanivitch said:
camel_landy said:
Maybe for a completed vehicle but the "Habitation Box" still requires fitting out. I'd be putting this at the top end on the 'project' scale but at least the mechanical side of things appear to be sorted.

M
Similar spec trucks with interiors are going for 250k+....
Is anyone buying though?

Seems an awful lot of money, the trucks themselves a dirt cheap and do you really need to give 230 grand to a company to fit one out?
I've seen quite a few come onto the market recently but like I said, at least the base vehicle should be well sorted on this.

Thing is, the costs associated with building a truck like this can get eye-watering, especially when you consider that you can easily spend £40k+ on a small T5 conversion. The devil is in the detail...

Edit: To give you an idea, the smaller units from Bliss cost circa Eu180,000 - https://www.blissmobil.com

M

Edited by camel_landy on Monday 4th December 22:39

dickymint

24,342 posts

258 months

Monday 4th December 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
Evanivitch said:
camel_landy said:
Maybe for a completed vehicle but the "Habitation Box" still requires fitting out. I'd be putting this at the top end on the 'project' scale but at least the mechanical side of things appear to be sorted.

M
Similar spec trucks with interiors are going for 250k+....
Is anyone buying though?

Seems an awful lot of money, the trucks themselves a dirt cheap and do you really need to give 230 grand to a company to fit one out?
This was delivered to my mates workshop (I've worked with him for the past 10 years) in 2021 ...............









It was registered in 2011 by the MOD and never used. It came with 60 miles on the clock! cost him 25K The last time we looked the same truck from the same supplier is 64K






Edited by dickymint on Monday 4th December 23:00

camel_landy

4,901 posts

183 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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dickymint said:
It was registered in 2011 by the MOD and never used. It came with 60 miles on the clock! cost him 25K The last time we looked the same truck from the same supplier is 64K
I was watching these go through the auctions and that's a fairly chunky markup. I suppose they have to cover their overheads and make a profit somehow.

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dickymint

24,342 posts

258 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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camel_landy said:
dickymint said:
It was registered in 2011 by the MOD and never used. It came with 60 miles on the clock! cost him 25K The last time we looked the same truck from the same supplier is 64K
I was watching these go through the auctions and that's a fairly chunky markup. I suppose they have to cover their overheads and make a profit somehow.

M
The guy my mate bought it off (he had/has many) quoted “since it kicked off in the Ukraine” !!

camel_landy

4,901 posts

183 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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dickymint said:
The guy my mate bought it off (he had/has many) quoted “since it kicked off in the Ukraine” !!
Good point, well presented... smile

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Evanivitch

20,078 posts

122 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
Is anyone buying though?

Seems an awful lot of money, the trucks themselves a dirt cheap and do you really need to give 230 grand to a company to fit one out?
There's several listed as sold in that very link...

RumbleOfThunder

3,557 posts

203 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Very sad to see. I hope the new owner will complete the build on here.

darrenptalbot

4 posts

212 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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What a brilliant thread

Looking at doing the same myself - having lived on a boat for a few years, I’m pretty happy with what is ‘inside the box’

Mechanicals are ok too - but wondering about going one step further and making mine a hybrid drive - keep gearbox, but change engine to electric, with a generator as a back up to charge batteries when needed

Evanivitch

20,078 posts

122 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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darrenptalbot said:
What a brilliant thread

Looking at doing the same myself - having lived on a boat for a few years, I’m pretty happy with what is ‘inside the box’

Mechanicals are ok too - but wondering about going one step further and making mine a hybrid drive - keep gearbox, but change engine to electric, with a generator as a back up to charge batteries when needed
It has been done on a MAN SV but it was very much prototype work. Budget according.

https://www.army.mod.uk/news-and-events/news/2021/...

Easternlight

3,431 posts

144 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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Shame he's not got to use it and hope he's ok.
Not surprised though as there's been very little progress over the last couple of years.
I did see on YouTube that he'd bought another standard one and was going to use it to teach big truck off roading.
Maybe that's taken over?
Let's hope he updates the thread.

darrenptalbot

4 posts

212 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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Evanivitch said:
darrenptalbot said:
What a brilliant thread

Looking at doing the same myself - having lived on a boat for a few years, I’m pretty happy with what is ‘inside the box’

Mechanicals are ok too - but wondering about going one step further and making mine a hybrid drive - keep gearbox, but change engine to electric, with a generator as a back up to charge batteries when needed
It has been done on a MAN SV but it was very much prototype work. Budget according.

https://www.army.mod.uk/news-and-events/news/2021/...
I’ll start having a look at that 👍

MesoForm

8,883 posts

275 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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Easternlight said:
Shame he's not got to use it and hope he's ok.
Not surprised though as there's been very little progress over the last couple of years.
I did see on YouTube that he'd bought another standard one and was going to use it to teach big truck off roading.
Maybe that's taken over?
Let's hope he updates the thread.
On his Instagram he says there’s now a lady and kids in his life he has to think about and by not finishing the truck it gives the buyer more options
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0ZCUOMI-fT/?igsh=YmI5...

Projectblue51

Original Poster:

246 posts

80 months

Saturday 13th January
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Hello everybody - thanks for the comments and kind words. I'm stunned that so many people are both interested and care about what's happening in my life.

In an effort to bring you all up to speed here is a quick resume.
Sept 22 - Changed from a friend with skills doing the interior to a professional company.
Oct 22 - went to two funerals of colleagues who sadly died aged 60 and a bit (I'm 58 in a few weeks) - one from brain tumour. One from Cancer.
Nov 22- paid £8,500 to professional Company as deposit and towards materials for build.
Jan 22 - met up with a colleague who experienced the same to discuss loss, friendship, life blah blah. A few meetings and dog walks later and things looking more like dating than mutual support. Go me biggrin
Jan 23 - Truck returns to Motorcraft to have the lower lockers added to the exterior and some minor imperfection that was added to the rubbing strip by a brick wall. All I'm going to say there is tail swing is real rolleyes
July 23 - Truck leaves MC to go to the Prof Co about 90 mins up the M1.Easier and cheaper to ship on loader than train + me drive + my time.
Aug 23 - new partner and I decided it was sensible to merge households and buy a bigger nicer house together. Begin house hunting.
Nov 23 - Travel 660 mile round trip to view truck at their premises (nothing has been done at all) and discussed plans. Told work would begin in Jan. Told prices had gone up and needed to suck a 20% increase up. Still a good deal and good work so accepted. Told further £10k needed in Jan to which I agreed.
4 days later received a Whats App message stating simply "I won't be doing your truck, I will return it to you with what's left of your deposit minus what I've spent."
So 12 months of agreement, positive discussions, ideas etc. and then bam. Out.
Plus side, got my truck back and portion of funds.
Motorcraft were amazing again, really helpful. Gave me a safe place to store it whilst I made a decision.

Long and short of it, the world and my life has changed since I began this project. Luckily for me, a lot of that is positive. Some people are not so lucky - there are plenty of these trucks for sale where someone has taken seriously ill and forced to come home permanently.
My new partner was very supportive, she said "it looked a lot of fun, but I just want to travel with you. In a truck, in a van on a plane. You do what you feel is right and I will come with you."
So I sold her for some camels... biggrin
Joke.
So I put the truck up for sale. I added up what it would cost for someone to build that truck to that standard and state of play and then knocked some tens off it. That's why it's priced as it was. Could you build it cheaper yourself? Of course. Assuming you had the space, the knowledge, the tools etc. But a professional build? No. And dont forget order books are minimum 12 months waiting. So that £105k buys a queue jump.

I had loads of interest. From America to New Zealand. South Africa, Germany, Greece, all over. Some cheeky offers as well as serious, but I chap put his money where his mouth is, paid a deposit and is flying in from the other side of the world next week to sort it. So next time a prospective buyer says "ah, you are too far away" tell them about this guy flying 15+ hours to view, do a deal and then the following day flying home. THAT is dedication beer

Anyway....
Im healthy, truck is sold, I'm moving house, and there is a hundred grand burning a hole in my pocket - life is awesome thank you. Remember Tempus Fugit - Carpe Diem folks biggrinbiggrin

dickymint

24,342 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th January
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Projectblue51 said:
Hello everybody - thanks for the comments and kind words. I'm stunned that so many people are both interested and care about what's happening in my life.

In an effort to bring you all up to speed here is a quick resume.
Sept 22 - Changed from a friend with skills doing the interior to a professional company.
Oct 22 - went to two funerals of colleagues who sadly died aged 60 and a bit (I'm 58 in a few weeks) - one from brain tumour. One from Cancer.
Nov 22- paid £8,500 to professional Company as deposit and towards materials for build.
Jan 22 - met up with a colleague who experienced the same to discuss loss, friendship, life blah blah. A few meetings and dog walks later and things looking more like dating than mutual support. Go me biggrin
Jan 23 - Truck returns to Motorcraft to have the lower lockers added to the exterior and some minor imperfection that was added to the rubbing strip by a brick wall. All I'm going to say there is tail swing is real rolleyes
July 23 - Truck leaves MC to go to the Prof Co about 90 mins up the M1.Easier and cheaper to ship on loader than train + me drive + my time.
Aug 23 - new partner and I decided it was sensible to merge households and buy a bigger nicer house together. Begin house hunting.
Nov 23 - Travel 660 mile round trip to view truck at their premises (nothing has been done at all) and discussed plans. Told work would begin in Jan. Told prices had gone up and needed to suck a 20% increase up. Still a good deal and good work so accepted. Told further £10k needed in Jan to which I agreed.
4 days later received a Whats App message stating simply "I won't be doing your truck, I will return it to you with what's left of your deposit minus what I've spent."
So 12 months of agreement, positive discussions, ideas etc. and then bam. Out.
Plus side, got my truck back and portion of funds.
Motorcraft were amazing again, really helpful. Gave me a safe place to store it whilst I made a decision.

Long and short of it, the world and my life has changed since I began this project. Luckily for me, a lot of that is positive. Some people are not so lucky - there are plenty of these trucks for sale where someone has taken seriously ill and forced to come home permanently.
My new partner was very supportive, she said "it looked a lot of fun, but I just want to travel with you. In a truck, in a van on a plane. You do what you feel is right and I will come with you."
So I sold her for some camels... biggrin
Joke.
So I put the truck up for sale. I added up what it would cost for someone to build that truck to that standard and state of play and then knocked some tens off it. That's why it's priced as it was. Could you build it cheaper yourself? Of course. Assuming you had the space, the knowledge, the tools etc. But a professional build? No. And dont forget order books are minimum 12 months waiting. So that £105k buys a queue jump.

I had loads of interest. From America to New Zealand. South Africa, Germany, Greece, all over. Some cheeky offers as well as serious, but I chap put his money where his mouth is, paid a deposit and is flying in from the other side of the world next week to sort it. So next time a prospective buyer says "ah, you are too far away" tell them about this guy flying 15+ hours to view, do a deal and then the following day flying home. THAT is dedication beer

Anyway....
Im healthy, truck is sold, I'm moving house, and there is a hundred grand burning a hole in my pocket - life is awesome thank you. Remember Tempus Fugit - Carpe Diem folks biggrinbiggrin
"Gather ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old time is still a-flying;
And this same flower that smiles today
Tomorrow will be dying."


So very true Blue51

Glad all is well - was talking about you and your truck sale last month to my mate and part time boss. He met you and had a lengthy chat with you at Stratford Show back in the summer. He took his 'baby' that you'll probably remember?



Evanivitch

20,078 posts

122 months

Saturday 13th January
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Glad there was a positive outcome smile