A Caravan of Clios - Mk1 16v, Mk2 Sports

A Caravan of Clios - Mk1 16v, Mk2 Sports

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Roboticarm

1,452 posts

62 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Love the MK1.
I had the use of my parents 1.9d prima, then owned two modified 1.4s, one lowered within an inch of its life and one with the wheels and other bits from a 16v
Never managed to get my hands on a Williams or a 16v but did own a 172 several years later.
Would love a MK1 again but suspect good ones are hard to come buy.

Swervin_Mervin

4,469 posts

239 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Coops-Clio-F4R said:
Tbh I've never found just running costs an issue, it's modding....particularly turbocharging that causes the bank account pain!
There was one particularly bad year. Someone on another forum asked me to tot it up and I think when we broke it down it cost more to run than his 360 CS laugh

Still, it was hilarious fun - we used to hassle all sorts at Cadwell with a fairly std car on Yoko Paradas at the front and some cheap Firestones on the back cool

Clio200pat

144 posts

189 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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[quote=Swervin_Mervin]Ahh, takes me back. I think I vaguely remember you from all those years ago on Williamsclio etc. Here were my 2 valvers:

Love a bit of Ph1 Mk2 action as well cool



This was one of my best mates old car I remember the plate, I actually nearly bought it (late 2003) got a 205 GTI instead. I loved that car and always regretted not buying it, the GTI was a dog!

When he had it it had a K&N filter and some horrid Momo wheels! Always had a soft spot for a valver!

zedx19

2,766 posts

141 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Good selection, will the grey one ever see the light of day again though confusedlaugh

Swervin_Mervin

4,469 posts

239 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Clio200pat said:
This was one of my best mates old car I remember the plate, I actually nearly bought it (late 2003) got a 205 GTI instead. I loved that car and always regretted not buying it, the GTI was a dog!

When he had it it had a K&N filter and some horrid Momo wheels! Always had a soft spot for a valver!
No way! Did he live in Winsford? I bought it in 2003 so sounds about right. It had a K&N on when I bought it but that didn't last long before going back to std. Also, most of the dash lights didn't work and the steering column joint was screwed so I was driving home without knowing what speed I was doing, whilst doing that movie driving thing of sawing at the wheel to keep it going straight ahead. Can't remember what wheels it had on it tbh - I think they were Speedlines of some sort. Chopped in for some diamond cut turbines, and some ph2 alloys for track.

Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Tuesday 30th June 10:42

FRA53R

1,077 posts

169 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Lovely cars! I grew up with fast Renaults. My folks had a 1.8rsi, as their first of many, which we adored was rare back then almost never seen now. Would have loved a 16v or Williams. Ended up with a ph1 exclusive which was a good car but heavy on the maintenance.

Think there's an odyssey blue ph1 up for sale at the moment (dark blue anyway) looks very nice.

Love your collection so will be following with interest.

Coops-Clio-F4R

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60 posts

50 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Janosh said:
Good to see these being loved, as above I’m keen to know more about the Mk1..! I still miss my old Williams (0062) and fondly remember the forum track days where everyone was chasing Martin’s ‘banana’
Yeah I remember those days on the forums and still flying the flag to this day.......0062 you say....i may of committed a cardinal sin with that car ....... sorry



Coops-Clio-F4R

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60 posts

50 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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cheers for support everyone else, realise I'm like a broken record with clios, variety appears to not be my motoring strong point so nice to see some interest, lol

And yes Brain, one day GTT will rise from the ashes like a iron oxide clad phoenix, honest....

Janosh

1,736 posts

168 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Coops-Clio-F4R said:
Yeah I remember those days on the forums and still flying the flag to this day.......0062 you say....i may of committed a cardinal sin with that car ....... sorry


Oh yea, it’s all coming back to me now! You sent me that pic many years ago frown

This thread is tempting me to look at old hatches again.. keep the updates coming!

Clio200pat

144 posts

189 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Swervin_Mervin said:
No way! Did he live in Winsford? I bought it in 2003 so sounds about right. It had a K&N on when I bought it but that didn't last long before going back to std. Also, most of the dash lights didn't work and the steering column joint was screwed so I was driving home without knowing what speed I was doing, whilst doing that movie driving thing of sawing at the wheel to keep it going straight ahead. Can't remember what wheels it had on it tbh - I think they were Speedlines of some sort. Chopped in for some diamond cut turbines, and some ph2 alloys for track.

Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Tuesday 30th June 10:42
He was in Oxford, think he got rid of the car at just past 100K. Was pretty clean when he had it so it looks like you might have bought it from the next owner.





Edited by Clio200pat on Tuesday 30th June 22:58

Swervin_Mervin

4,469 posts

239 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Clio200pat said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
No way! Did he live in Winsford? I bought it in 2003 so sounds about right. It had a K&N on when I bought it but that didn't last long before going back to std. Also, most of the dash lights didn't work and the steering column joint was screwed so I was driving home without knowing what speed I was doing, whilst doing that movie driving thing of sawing at the wheel to keep it going straight ahead. Can't remember what wheels it had on it tbh - I think they were Speedlines of some sort. Chopped in for some diamond cut turbines, and some ph2 alloys for track.
He was in Oxford, think he got rid of the car at just past 100K. Was pretty clean when he had it so it looks like you might have bought it from the next owner.
Ahhh. Odd to hear history about a very long departed car you've owned!



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[footnote]Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Wednesday 1st July 09:27

minimalist

1,492 posts

206 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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My first performance car was a '96 16v. I loved it.

I bought a Honda S2000 to replace it and ended up selling the Honda after 5 months. A few years later a friend persuaded me to part ways with the Clio and he crashed it. This thread has me all nostalgic and I'm off to the classifieds.

smile

Coops-Clio-F4R

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60 posts

50 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Janosh said:
Oh yea, it’s all coming back to me now! You sent me that pic many years ago frown

This thread is tempting me to look at old hatches again.. keep the updates coming!
lol! yeah more than likely confessed already, was a good few years ago and at time they were worthless as mad as it sounds. made about 4k in bits off it though. Still have the original dash plaque, its stuck to my computer monitor at work to remind me of how silly it was to kill it....sigh

Janosh

1,736 posts

168 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Last one from me, I won't litter your thread any further...!

0062 in happier days at Anglesea



No prizes for spotting 'the banana'


Simon182

132 posts

128 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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I would genuinely love a Williams

Coops-Clio-F4R

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60 posts

50 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Okay, next on the list, the 1993 Capsicum Red 1.8 16v.

This car was always one of the ones back in the old forum days that I coveted and probably got me into the mk1 scene fully. It was originally 449 sports blue and at one point when my lust for it was highest it sat low as you like on satin black R19 turbine wheels. It looked absolutely fantastic, there was a particular picture of it on the beach with the previous owner that just ticked all the boxes... After that my mk1 addiction kicked in fully and I've been a slave ever since.

Many years later, and a couple more owners later too, it popped up on eBay of all places, caged up with a mk2 clio F4R engine and gearbox conversion and now Red inside and out. I chucked a couple of cheeky bids on it, not too much as the car had loads of parts missing and was a nonrunner. Danny, the owner at the time got part way through a supercharger install and complete rewire and gave up. So 1200 quid later, I won it and as of October 2013 I was finally in possession of JWC, the car that kicked it all of all those years before.

At the time I was moving from ¼ mile fun into trackdays and the grey mk1 (to be covered later in this saga) was causing me no end of grief and I had to accept it just wasn’t cut out for track work, just too highly strung and badly thought out and conceived for the new job I had chucked it into. As such I shifted the track oriented parts from the grey car (GTT as I will refer to it from now on) to the red one (JWC) and set about creating my vision for a mk1 phase 1 (technically it’s a 1.5, but I’ve stuck the earlier visual cue’s onto it) track car. I wanted to fit lots of shiny bits to make it chuckable, thrashable and capable on track but also from a first glance have all the right visual cue’s to look like a stock car….ish.

So in 7 years of use and evolution I think I am nearly there with her now and more than happy with the car, despite some current niggles and issues that need ironing out.

Quick spec of what I can remember on the car, mostly mk2 phase 1 172 components make up the running gear, which makes sourcing upgrades and replacement bits for the engine and drivetrain much much easier. As such its basically a mk2 car stuck into the much better looking dress of a mk1 chassis smile

- Renault Sport Clio 172 (F4R) engine conversion (2.0 16v)
- Mocal Oil Cooler
- Renault Sport Clio 172 Front suspension conversion
- Spherical bearing Front Wishbones
- Powerflex black series Polybushed ARB links
- Renault Clio Williams KW Variant1 coil over suspension all round with 500lb custom front springs
- Renault Clio Williams AST Solid Top mounts
- ACS Motorsport bump steer and roll correction kit
- Stud and nut conversion with front and rear spacers
- Manual Steering Conversion (basically pulled power stuff off original rack and done, lol)
- Wilwood midilite 4 pot brake kit from Jamsport with Ferodo ds 11.1 pads
- Custom Stainless Exhaust system with Renaultsport Clio 182 manifold
- Vibratechnics solid engine mounts
- Toyo R888 tyres for road, Michelin Slicks for track
- Pure motorsport carbon shifter
- Quaife Limited Slip differential in Renaultsport Clio 172 Cup gearbox
- Renaultsport Clio 172 Whiteline Rear Anti Roll bar (modified to fit mk1)
- Perspex window kit comprising 5 piece (fronts, rears and rear a screen) with slider kit
- Fibreglass bonnet with Aerocatch bonnet pins (lockable)
- Fully stripped interior
- Renault Sport Clio 172 Full wiring looms and dash/clocks. Modded to fit Mk1 external light clusters
- Full 6 point weld in roll cage with tie plates and gusseting
- Oreca Bucket seats, fixed side mount to weld in supports
- Sabelt Harness’ - Helmet net, spare wheel strap (and spare wheel)
- Sabelt Renaultsport Steering wheel and boss
- RS2 Carbon inlet manifold
- Renaultsport Clio 197 cams with 8 degree inlet advance
- Renaultsport Clio 197 injectors
- Walbro fuel pump with braided fuel lines
- Remap at Efi Parts - 212bhp/160lbft at Flywheel

Currently the car is in bits on the drive, I have some rear stub axles from a Clio 172 that I am modifying the rear beam to fit, this will then allow me to geo the rear with shims for camber and toe for some more adjustability. It then needs to go up to my mates garage for an exhaust revision as current one is sitting all wrong and causing issues.

Then its MOT, full geo to new specs for the stiffer front springs and head to Cadwell for some fun smile

Pics!





























Swervin_Mervin

4,469 posts

239 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Was that little Danny, Coops? That's the only Danny I remember, and he did have a farily low valver in blue.

Do you know what happened to the banana? Last I saw Gaz bought it and he was on about moving to Aus and taking it with him.

Swervin_Mervin

4,469 posts

239 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Coops-Clio-F4R said:
Okay, next on the list, the 1993 Capsicum Red 1.8 16v.

cloud9

My favourite track Cadwell. It suits the Clio so well as well, especially through the esses after the mountain. Caught so many through that section.

Furyblade_Lee

4,108 posts

225 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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A Phase 1 Clio 172 is a beautiful thing ......

Coops-Clio-F4R

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60 posts

50 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Swervin_Mervin said:
Was that little Danny, Coops? That's the only Danny I remember, and he did have a farily low valver in blue.

Do you know what happened to the banana? Last I saw Gaz bought it and he was on about moving to Aus and taking it with him.
Danny Ace matey from out Grantham way owned it before me so different guy I guess.

Yeah Cadwell just rules basically, fantastic track. Although I will say Druids at Oulton is my favourite corner complex on UK tracks I've driven, but Cadwell is a better overall lap