Lancia Montecarlo...37 years and counting

Lancia Montecarlo...37 years and counting

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CallThatMusic

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2,582 posts

89 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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Jamesbythesea said:
I bought a Monte Carlo Spyder new from HR Owen in London. A856RYT for £9,995
Was a gold colour as was their only one on stock with light cloth seats.
Everyone asked why I didn't get red or black ??
Anyway it was fraught with problems and tried rejecting it.
In the end the accelerator stuck at 70 mph and the car nearly killed me.
Sold it for £7,500 within a year.
I had that problem once coming back from playing 5 aside footie in Bo’ness.
Travelling over the Flints and on the downwards into Linlithgow the accelerator stuck open.
I had to get down and fiddle with it manually to un-stick it while my passenger steered the car..
It never happened again, it was a bit scary and very odd.
Close shave.

CallThatMusic

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2,582 posts

89 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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P5BNij said:
Have to disagree on some of that - privatisation has brought massive investment in some areas, some of which we've been involved in on our 'patch', all of it was desperately needed, most of which had been put off since the early '60 due to successive Parliament types kicking the can down the road. It takes decades to get it all done, but eventually it will all be done (long after I retire to the mess room in the sky). The WCML should have been electrified for the full 400 miles by 1966 but it kept being put back, and similarly the ECML was supposed to have been done by 1974 / 75 but wasn't. Lots of mistakes were made in the pre-Beeching Modernisation Plan with several u-turns, political interference and different plans overlapping where they shouldn't have done. Something many folk probably aren't aware of is that the Midland line south of Leicester was due to be closed in '66 (including the demolition of St.Pancras) with traffic to be diverted across to Rugby and down into Euston, if that had actually taken place the WCML would have reached full capacity by c1970 and would have needed the extra investment it eventually received over the last decade or so. In Labour's 1964 election campaign they promised to keep the Great Central route open but went back on it within two years of reaching office by severing it completely south of Rugby, then closing the final stretch to Leicester and Nottingham in '69. If they'd kept their promise we wouldn't need HS2 now (forget the high speed PR bit that was pushed from the start of the project, it's all about releasing capacity to enable similar speed services to run much more fluidly on the crowded WCML, which I see everyday). From an operational point of view, the railway we have now is far more flexible than it has ever been, it probably doesn't look that way to the paying punters on the 08.23 to Walmington-on-Sea, but it's not as bad as some would like to make out. A lot of the current investment is going into putting right past mistakes, more precisely putting the capacity back in where it was too hastily removed in the 1970 - 1990 period. BR was good in parts, but a lot of it was bad and very wasteful (I started in '82, right in the middle of the flexible rostering strike!).

If the railway is ever renationalised, the only real change will be the company name along the top of my payslip....!

Quick, somebody post an old Lancia pic....!

Edited by P5BNij on Friday 31st July 20:04
Here you go...

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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Phew! Thank goodness for that!

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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Mrs.P5B just now, looking at that photo : ''the one on the left is very pretty, what's that horrible looking thing next to it...?''

Women!!!

CallThatMusic

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89 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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A quick run out to Linlithgow today to dig out some wheels.
You can easily fit 4 x Montecarlo 13” wheels in the boot of a BMW 1 series.
BMW should use this in their advertising. It’s powerful and true.
Look see...


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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Relegating German cars to use as vans in the service of Italian cars is a fine idea.

Wheels good!

L centres v fine!

CallThatMusic

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89 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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It’s been monsoon season here so not out and about.
The Lancia wheels have been cleaned and are in storage awaiting a break in the weather and a trip to the house of refurbishment.
Meanwhile here is a photograph from a sunny day...


gforceg

3,524 posts

180 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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Aurelias are very cool and a tiny bit gangsterish. I'm not so sure about the sticker bombing on the side window.

CallThatMusic

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89 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Wheels now at Pentland Powdercoating for refurbishment.£192 for all 4 seems like a good deal.
They repaired and refurbed my old BMW wheels and did a great job so am expecting a good result.
Hers a car photo meantime


This is a Eric Nisbet’s car and he was looking to sell it. Offers somewhere around £7k I think.

CallThatMusic

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Wednesday 5th August 2020
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gforceg said:
Aurelias are very cool and a tiny bit gangsterish. I'm not so sure about the sticker bombing on the side window.
Yes they are cool cars and ever so slightly menacing.
I’ve seen a lowered car which was awesome.
Stickers improve performance it’s a well known fact.....

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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I really like Aurelias. The stickers must DIE!

If that HPE is for sale, could any one who knows about it please email me the details. Not for me, but for a bloke I know of who wants a 1970s or 1980s Shooting Brake for family plus dogs. An HPE is the ideal car. .


Shy Torque

485 posts

188 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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CallThatMusic said:
Wheels now at Pentland Powdercoating for refurbishment.£192 for all 4 seems like a good deal.
They repaired and refurbed my old BMW wheels and did a great job so am expecting a good result.
Hers a car photo meantime


This is a Eric Nisbet’s car and he was looking to sell it. Offers somewhere around £7k I think.
Snap


Taken at the Stirling car show last year. I would be very interested in this car too if you have any details? (I know BV asked first)

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Just done a double take at the reg' number - my mate's '78 SD1 is 'BEC 484S'...!

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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Shy Torque said:
Snap


Taken at the Stirling car show last year. I would be very interested in this car too if you have any details? (I know BV asked first)
Fill yer boots! The American bloke I mentioned the car to won't be giving you any bidder competition, because he wants one with a two litre engine. That 1600 one looks fabby. It maybe has cool pre facelift rear seats. I would buy it myself, but I really cannot justify having two Betas at once.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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P5BNij said:
Just done a double take at the reg' number - my mate's '78 SD1 is 'BEC 484S'...!
Is it a good SD1? I miss mine....

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
P5BNij said:
Just done a double take at the reg' number - my mate's '78 SD1 is 'BEC 484S'...!
Is it a good SD1? I miss mine....
It's fab to look at and to drive, it's 'only' a 2600 but it feels great out on the road. I've posted pics of it before but here's another anyway (sorry OP)....



He's had it twelve years now, it spent a fair chunk of its life in a collection up north and had just 53k miles on it when he bought it. It's in Redditch this week having some fettling to the front suspension. The paint is all original, as are the number plates and the interior bar the newish headlining. It was on the cover of Practical Classics a few years back.


anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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2600 SD1s are great. Vastly underrated. I had one.

P5BNij

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107 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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When he takes it to shows people ask if it's a V8 and get all deflated when he says no, it's a 2600. Daft really. It has proper long legged style and loves A roads as much as motorways.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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3500s and 2600s go, but they also handle. They are surprisingly good on the bends given the relative simplicity of their rear suspension. Good for use by rozzers chasing blaggers in Jaaaaaaaaags and Granadas.

There are lots of pub myths about the 2600. The one about the (actually sort of Triumph) six being deliberately detuned to provide market spacing between it and the Rover V8 might be true.

The six would only lunch itself on the motorway if the silly one way valve widget that dealt with oil input into the rocker boxes was sludged up. The six suffered from not being developed, either before or after the cars were put on sale. Because no money. If it had been developed, and turned into a twin cam with fuel injection, it could have gone on into the 1990s.

Sorry OP! Not Italian! But at least an SD1 looks a bit like a Ferrari (if you take some drugs).

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 6th August 12:33

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
P5BNij said:
This RHD '77 Montecarlo looks fantastic, it's been for sale on c&c before I think....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C816657
V good, but black numberplates on a R reg car from 1977 are just plain wrong, and I do not care that the historically ignorant DVLA allows it. People who are into historical cars ought, I suggest, to have a sense of history, even though the DVLA does not.
Totally agreed. It looks utterly wrong and weird