Citroen 2cv V8 Racer

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grumpy52

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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Max_Torque said:
Is it turbo'd?
No . But you never know for the future .

grumpy52

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Petrolism said:
Aside from possibly using old parts, why not sell the carbs and put Jenvey throttle bodies on? Surely a decent modern closed loop ECU will make initial and further tuning a lot easier, whilst also allowing flat shifting, etc.?
It's harking back to the 70s era of Special saloon racing , no electronic gizmos and no ecus .
The expected power output is pushing the limits of normal tuning without going to very expensive and extreme levels .
We ran a very similar set up in a MK1 escort 15 years ago that was pushing 360bhp and was incredibly reliable, with the latest head and camshaft development we have been reliably informed that the target power is very achievable.
Using stuff that has been hoarded over the years, some very canny trading over the years , lots of in house fabrication, old school technology and lots of know how the total build cost should be surprisingly low . The biggest single expense will be the carbs .
In the near future it looks like we will have a car at the BHP show at Lydden in Oct probably this Holden .

Konrod

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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I love watching threads like this, thanks for posting it up. One (probably stupid) question, but how will you get the pully on the water pump and run the belt - it looks from the pictures that the chassis is in the way. Are you extending it in front of the chassis?

grumpy52

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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Konrod said:
I love watching threads like this, thanks for posting it up. One (probably stupid) question, but how will you get the pully on the water pump and run the belt - it looks from the pictures that the chassis is in the way. Are you extending it in front of the chassis?
That is just the mule engine , the race engine is yet to be built .
I am told that it will have a high capacity water pump of a much shorter design but things will be tight ! It will only have an electric fan mounted on the rad .
A similar engine is currently being assembled for a mad customer to be fitted into his Land Rover!


grumpy52

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Thursday 3rd September 2020
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Pedal assembly made and fitted .

grumpy52

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Friday 4th September 2020
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First ideas on the rear spoiler , looks just like a 70s spoiler which is the general idea.

grumpy52

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Friday 4th September 2020
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Did I say it's wide !
Nice new 2CV lights and a grill .

grumpy52

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Monday 14th September 2020
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Not a great deal to report of late .
The pedal reservoirs have been fitted on the second attempt, the first ones looked far too modern so older style ones were fitted .
The doors are being stripped lightened, strengthened and repaired as necessary.
My cousin Lee Follett of FG Fabrications visited today to measure up for the front roll cage hoops. Once these have been fabricated and fitted the rest of the body mounts can be fitted and the exhaust system can be fabricated and fitted .
The colour scheme changes almost weekly, last week.it was yellow in tribute to the one in the Bond Film , this week it's Red Charleston colours .
The past choices have been Yellow /Black and Black/ Silver.
The Dry sump system is near to complete and will be trial fitted shortly .

grumpy52

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Friday 25th September 2020
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Diff mocked up and mounted, measurements taken and the prop shaft cut to length .

grumpy52

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Friday 25th September 2020
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Sierra prop cut to length

grumpy52

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Friday 25th September 2020
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Rover front prop shaft yoke ready to be welded to the Sierra prop .

Edited by grumpy52 on Saturday 26th September 10:25

grumpy52

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Wednesday 7th October 2020
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Things have been a bit slow on the build front of late . Peter the owner /builder is absolutely snowed under with work ( 9 E types among many others )
Me being in hospital for 7 days was not part of my plans either .
Thanks to Lee of FG fabrications the front roll cage can now go in .
The intake manifold is coming together , it's being fabricated in house then off to have castings made as Peter has several customers who want similar set ups on some mad V8 Land Rovers .

grumpy52

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Sunday 11th October 2020
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Exhaust manifolds starting to be fabricated. It's all a bit tight !

grumpy52

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Sunday 11th October 2020
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More done to the cage , door bars to be added . Once all the pieces are in place and welded the thing should be nice and stiff .
The list of parts still to source is surprisingly short ,basically, carbs wiring, battery , fuel cell, dry sump tank , splitter and floor and instruments.

Greg_D

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Sunday 11th October 2020
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Max_Torque said:
grumpy52 said:
It will be close but with an expected 400 -420 BHP, t
Is it turbo'd?
I see what you did there 😂😂
It does sound a lot for an rv8...

grumpy52

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Monday 12th October 2020
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Greg_D said:
Max_Torque said:
grumpy52 said:
It will be close but with an expected 400 -420 BHP, t
Is it turbo'd?
I see what you did there ????
It does sound a lot for an rv8...
Many people still think that anything over 280-300bhp for a Rover V8 is really pushing it .
People are still developing these engines and 400 bhp is realistic for race engines , most are running at well over 4 ltr and 4.8 ltr is often used . They do drink fuel though . The Escort we previously raced averaged 5mpg , this was a car that weighed 875kg fully ready to fire off the line .

Usget

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Monday 12th October 2020
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Missed this first time around - gloriously mad!

grumpy52

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Tuesday 13th October 2020
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One exhaust manifold fabricated. Going to be shot blasted next then stove blacked and polished .
Yes it is tight for space and the RH side is worse because it has the steering column and starter motor to contend with.

grumpy52

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Thursday 15th October 2020
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With no inlet manifold of the correct height available Peter had no choice but to fabricate his own . Several customers have expressed an interest in acquiring the same so he will be having a batch cast from his fabricated version .
Very lucky to have a contact locally that can undertake the casting at reasonable cost .

Dinoboy

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Thursday 15th October 2020
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Great thread.