Rolling the electrified dice. 2020 MG ZS EV Exclusive
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Yes sure they did a short while ago on “The Ask a Car salesperson “ thread several are Renault Dacia sales and were agreed it was a bit of a bargain. LPG isn’t as prevalent as it once was but I searched and it’s still out there and under 50p a litre sometimes. It is though less efficient as a fuel though so calculations need careful consideration.
Osprey Charging up next - the unit I used today was a little on the slow side. Their new app is pretty good though - a lot of people moan about having to use apps for public charging but this one actually offers some benefits over paying with contactless (which is also available). Cheaper rates, monthly billing, VAT receipts in one place, etc.
Toaster Pilot said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Do you have to reserve the space outside your house?
If so that must add a level of anxiety.
Apart from reserving it from idiot strangers who have no right to be here, no. I have that problem with an ICE car too. If so that must add a level of anxiety.
I’m not judging in this case but it does highlight the massive infrastructure problem people will face when/if electric is forced upon us, it wont just be with strangers, but with neighbours too. ‘ I had to park here, because they parked there.”, “but my cable now won’t reach” type conversations will happen all over the land I suspect.
Toaster Pilot said:
My house is on a private road - nobody else other than the residents have any right to park here at all.
The “footpath” is private land, forming the frontage of the house.
Fair enough, is that why you have the double yellows too then? Surprised you don’t get over eager ( I think that’s the only type) traffic wardens covering it in Christmas party fund thank you notes. Does illustrate the problem a lot of people will have though. The “footpath” is private land, forming the frontage of the house.
MDUBZ said:
Fair enough, is that why you have the double yellows too then? Surprised you don’t get over eager ( I think that’s the only type) traffic wardens covering it in Christmas party fund thank you notes. Does illustrate the problem a lot of people will have though.
The double yellows are a bit of a legacy thing - there’s still some development ongoing. You are right though - on a typical terraced street with no right to reserve anything the kind of problems you describe will be rife. Kerbside charging is probably the answer in a lot of cases as long as the unit rates can stay competitive.
I’d have enough trouble trying to organise the cars on my own drive if I had to charge them, but while the inner mischievous child is thinking about it and I’m generally curious as it’s another potential real world problem.. does the charging point lock into the car on charge or could I just unplug both ends and run off with it? I ask because , and I can’t believe I’m saying this, that as a daily providing the range was good enough, I’m slowly coming round to the idea of an electric car; they still don’t make sense finically yet, you’d have to cover a lot of miles to offset the premium of the purchase over 4-5 years. But never having to waste time at a pump would be great. Yuk there I said it.
Edited by MDUBZ on Sunday 10th January 22:08
MDUBZ said:
. So while the inner mischievous child is thinking about it and I’m generally curious as it’s another potential real world problem.. does the charging point lock into the car on charge or could I just unplug both ends and run off with it? 
It locks into both ends if you have a Type 2 charge point on the wall. In my setup, you could unplug the commando plug but it would still be locked into the car.
Toaster Pilot said:
Mikebentley said:
If you can get the Duster new with LPG I think it’s about £13k and their salesman say it’s the sweet spot for price and running costs.
Did they ever actually start selling them with LPG? LPG pumps are disappearing from forecourts at a fair old rate!
Toaster Pilot. Thought I’d update an earlier discussion. Due to work being a bit up and down and the need to currently do 300 miles per day or at least for the foreseeable future I picked this little Duster up. It’s a 100 Tce (999cc 3 cyl turbo) Bi fuel LPG. Dealer demo, 5 months old and about 33% off list. £11200.00 approx. 2 yrs free servicing.
Very pleased with it, 4 days in.
Will keep an eye on your thread as still keen on EV and a friend purchased the same as you last month.
Mikebentley said:
Toaster Pilot. Thought I’d update an earlier discussion. Due to work being a bit up and down and the need to currently do 300 miles per day or at least for the foreseeable future I picked this little Duster up. It’s a 100 Tce (999cc 3 cyl turbo) Bi fuel LPG. Dealer demo, 5 months old and about 33% off list. £11200.00 approx. 2 yrs free servicing.
Very pleased with it, 4 days in.
Will keep an eye on your thread as still keen on EV and a friend purchased the same as you last month.
That 1.0 TCe engine is nice, had a mk4 Clio with it.
Toaster Pilot said:
First charge using the Ohme cable. Don’t have a fancy variable tariff yet so don’t need any of the smart features! Seems to be piling the kWhs in at a decent rate.
Update on this - now using Octopus Go so charging for 5p/kWh 0030-0430. Ohme integrates well with this and only charges at the cheap rate if you tell it to. Perfect solution to the lack of a charge timer in the car itself - I’d strongly recommend it to anyone that needs a good quality smart charger. Works with Octopus Agile too where the price changes every 30 minutes - but the rates on that have gone a bit crazy recently so I bailed out onto Go for a bit.
There is one of these in my local dealer in a lovely electric light blue. Not the cheapest here, €28,995 for the lower specced and €31,995 for the higher. However, toastie I respect your opinion, and ad a die-hard diesel devotee who does a 130-mile commute every day, I'm tempted to go for a test drive when Covid lockdown is over... 
mercedeslimos said:
There is one of these in my local dealer in a lovely electric light blue. Not the cheapest here, €28,995 for the lower specced and €31,995 for the higher. However, toastie I respect your opinion, and ad a die-hard diesel devotee who does a 130-mile commute every day, I'm tempted to go for a test drive when Covid lockdown is over...
Where’s that, out of interest? And how does that compare to a petrol/diesel car?Saw a French advert for one the other day - €17,995 after government subsidy from a full list of similar to what you’re saying.
The MG5 might be a bit more suited on the range front for that kind of regular journey mind - you’d be more sure of definitely having enough battery every time even in the depths of winter unless you’re somewhere super warm
Toaster Pilot said:
Where’s that, out of interest? And how does that compare to a petrol/diesel car?
Saw a French advert for one the other day - €17,995 after government subsidy from a full list similar to what you’re saying.
The MG5 might be a bit more suited on the range front for that kind of regular journey mind - you’d be more sure of definitely having enough battery every time even in the depths of winter unless you’re somewhere super warm
Cork, Rep. of Ireland. We have an exorbitant sales tax etc here, road tax is still €140 a year (My diesel Mondeo, €280). Weirdly enough they don't sell the MG5 here, and they didn't sell the MG6 - any you see are private imports - and they do the HS PHEV apparently, at €34,995.Saw a French advert for one the other day - €17,995 after government subsidy from a full list similar to what you’re saying.
The MG5 might be a bit more suited on the range front for that kind of regular journey mind - you’d be more sure of definitely having enough battery every time even in the depths of winter unless you’re somewhere super warm
I've good mates in Redditch who work at JLR in Gaydon and they bought a Zoe for that commute, instead of a V50 T5
Bloody tiny inside though. Included in the list price here is an SEAI (Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland) grant of €5,000 and a VRT (Vehicle Registration Tax) relief of €5,000. Would you pay €42,000 for your car? Gassing Station | Readers' Cars | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff