Peugeot 205 XR

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anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Ouch. Hope you can get the bolt out. Drill it? I admire your patience and fortitude.

PrinceRupert

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85 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Breadvan72 said:
Ouch. Hope you can get the bolt out. Drill it? I admire your patience and fortitude.
Access is a bit awkward for drilling. I'm hoping either my dremel idea or alternatively a set of irwin nut extractors might do the trick. Otherwise I may need to drop the rear axle...

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Get yourself some Irwin bolt grips. Saved my bacon a few times, especially on BMW caliper carrier bolts.

xstian

1,973 posts

146 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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I would start with heat before you do anything else. A slotted screwdriver is unlikely to work without some help.

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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I've got a set of irwin nut extractors on the way


Today I tried to tackle another rusted rounded bolt - the one holding the driver seat to the car. Well I say holding, not sure what it is holding it to. The driver seat is like a rocking horse...



Not sure how to get this one off.

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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Seats are not yet out but at least I've found the problem...the drivers seat is no longer attached to the car at the front right. Mount has broken free.

So I'm going to have to learn to weld or find a welder ...

PrinceRupert

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85 months

Sunday 24th January 2021
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Not ideal...

PrinceRupert

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85 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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So in the land of rusted bolts...

Torx bolt on back of driver seat - goosed. Cut a slot into head with an angle grinder, but no amount of force is turning it. Seems the only solution is to drill it out.

Bolt for bump stop - irwin extractor did grand total of f all. Gonna maybe try my slot idea otherwise its another one for drilling though access is pretty crap. Could use a right angled drill but not confident that will be that effective...

xstian

1,973 posts

146 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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PrinceRupert said:
So in the land of rusted bolts...

Torx bolt on back of driver seat - goosed. Cut a slot into head with an angle grinder, but no amount of force is turning it. Seems the only solution is to drill it out.

Bolt for bump stop - irwin extractor did grand total of f all. Gonna maybe try my slot idea otherwise its another one for drilling though access is pretty crap. Could use a right angled drill but not confident that will be that effective...
Sometimes the next size up Torx can be hammered into a damaged Torx bolt. If not I think I would be inclined to grind the head off the bolt so the seat can be removed. That will make tackling the bolt easier, heat is your friend here.

As for the bump stop, have you tried heating it up? I find heat is always the best way for tackling seized bolts. it's normally best to heat them before you muller the heads. Another option is to weld a nut or a short bolt to the snapped bolt. Welding will also generate heat, which is good. Did I mention heating the bolt?

I don't want to sound patronising, but if you think the bolt is getting tight and you think it might snap or round off the head, stop. It's much easier dealing with it when you can still get a tool on it. I've snapped loads of bolt off, so I know it can be a pain and if some bodger has been at it first, there isn't always much you can do. Good luck.

PrinceRupert

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85 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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So my uncle is fitting my bathroom this week, and he had a blowtorch in his van...



Still not able to get it to shift. We didn't heat it for very long, as the car has been undercoated in some black tar like substance which started smoking heavily and we didn't want to ignite it ...

And yes, slowly learning my lessons in not mullering bolt heads ... though managed to cut a slot in both for a screwdriver, but still won't turn.

Edited by PrinceRupert on Monday 25th January 13:47

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Not got time to read all the way through this topic

Has anyone mentioned checking the rear beam bearings are OK, lots of miles on wet roads often causes water to get past the worn/stiff beam tube seals and wreck the roller bearings

Just a thought

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Penelope Stopit said:
Not got time to read all the way through this topic

Has anyone mentioned checking the rear beam bearings are OK, lots of miles on wet roads often causes water to get past the worn/stiff beam tube seals and wreck the roller bearings

Just a thought
I fitted a new set to the axle of my Ph1 GTi a few years ago. Ugh...

PrinceRupert

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85 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Penelope Stopit said:
Not got time to read all the way through this topic

Has anyone mentioned checking the rear beam bearings are OK, lots of miles on wet roads often causes water to get past the worn/stiff beam tube seals and wreck the roller bearings

Just a thought
No, but another thing to fix isn't what I need right now ... biglaugh

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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mercedeslimos said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Not got time to read all the way through this topic

Has anyone mentioned checking the rear beam bearings are OK, lots of miles on wet roads often causes water to get past the worn/stiff beam tube seals and wreck the roller bearings

Just a thought
I fitted a new set to the axle of my Ph1 GTi a few years ago. Ugh...
Second that, did the 306 18 Months ago, Ugh Ugh

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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PrinceRupert said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Not got time to read all the way through this topic

Has anyone mentioned checking the rear beam bearings are OK, lots of miles on wet roads often causes water to get past the worn/stiff beam tube seals and wreck the roller bearings

Just a thought
No, but another thing to fix isn't what I need right now ... biglaugh
Sorry, wasn't meaning to be a problem creator, simply pointing out that your car may not have any rear suspension on one side or both, they do lock-up

Anyway, good topic, will read more later

PrinceRupert

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85 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Penelope Stopit said:
Sorry, wasn't meaning to be a problem creator, simply pointing out that your car may not have any rear suspension on one side or both, they do lock-up

Anyway, good topic, will read more later
Thanks input is always welcome i was being somewhat facetious: smile what's the best way to test it?

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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1) Push downwards on left then right of tailgate, see that body goes down and returns when stopping the pushing (bounce it)

and or

2) Will need to jack it up and get it very stable then use a long strong lever bar under each arm, this will allow you to listen to the bearings and get a feel of them through the bar

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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PrinceRupert said:
Thanks input is always welcome i was being somewhat facetious: smile what's the best way to test it?
Gathered that, have fun, hope you've a good beam

Cambs_Stuart

2,871 posts

84 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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Just read the entire thread and I've got to admire your perseverance. Good luck on getting it on the road and running correctly!

PrinceRupert

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85 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Cambs_Stuart said:
Just read the entire thread and I've got to admire your perseverance. Good luck on getting it on the road and running correctly!
Thanks. Hopefully the skills I am learning will put me in good stead for the future. I am eyeing up putting something a bit more exciting on the drive in the near future...