Peugeot 205 XR

[The ArtfulBodger]

Cascade360 said:

Thanks. I guess I can't use lots of heat on the connection between flexi and hard line as brake fluid is flammable?

I have drilled out and helicoiled quite a few bolts now but didn't fancy trying it on the caliper with the consequences of it failing in use ...

205 metal brake pipes were passed their best more than 20 years ago when plenty were still on the road!

If it’s a front replace the lot.

If it’s a rear we used to cut it in front of the fuel tank, flare a new pipe in and run it between the tank and inner sill and then on to the hub- it’s a tank off job otherwise.

ETA, That pipe in your photo is done for BTW.

[mercedeslimos]

Nice hose clamp, where did you pick that up? I usually use a welding clamp!

[Cascade360]

mercedeslimos said:

Nice hose clamp, where did you pick that up? I usually use a welding clamp!

A mere £8.53 on Amazon

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07CSZZ1JC/ref...

[xstian]

Those brake hoses are quite easy to shear off to be honest. You have to be careful you don't twist and kink the copper pipe when removing the other end.

The the bolts that keep snapping, do the snap rather than turn or do they turn a few times then get tight and snap. If it the later you just need a bit more patience. If they start to go tight, stop, work the bolt back in again, a bit of lube and wire bush what ever you can get too. It can be slow, but its much quicker than having to have to drill out broken bolts.

Its easily done and sometimes it just can't be helped. I've just been working on a 50 year old Reliant Scimitar this week and snapped a few bolts taking the rad out. Luckily the rad is going in the bin, so I'm not too worried.

[Cascade360]

Caliper on. Bloody hell i got brake fluid everywhere. At one point twirling the flexi onto the hardline brake fluid was spinning round like a Catherine Wheel.

I can't seem to get both ends tight and the hose not kinked. Is there a trick to this?

[TEKNOPUG]

Are they the right hoses? That rubber part on the line should clip onto something.

[Cascade360]

It appears to be the right part number and is the one that comes up on ECP if i put my part number in.

However this one looks like the one that came off...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184613301275

[CarlosV8]

Looks like a GTI hose as that rubber bit clips onto the strut (it's routed round the front, at least on my GTi). Might be a slightly different length so make sure it doesn't get snagged on anything!

Regarding the kinking can you take the caliper off the hub to allow it to unkink?

[Cascade360]

CarlosV8 said:

Looks like a GTI hose as that rubber bit clips onto the strut (it's routed round the front, at least on my GTi). Might be a slightly different length so make sure it doesn't get snagged on anything!

Regarding the kinking can you take the caliper off the hub to allow it to unkink?

I couldn't get it to be unkinked think it is a bit long plus it wasn't fully seated in the caliper. Ordered the replacement. Annoying.

Also tried to install the replacement right indicator today. Shock horror the ten quid replacement wasn't a good fit. Managed to crack it during installation. Guess ill order another...

Edited by Cascade360 on Sunday 18th July 17:34

[Cascade360]

Carb off in advance of rebuild

Gasket to inlet manifold looks pretty shot

Taking bets the car never runs again🤣

[TEKNOPUG]

4 barrel Holley will pep it up.

[Cascade360]

Let's get it running before dropping big money on performance mods

Little things today...using Getechniq C4 Trim Restorer. Very expensive at 20 quid for a tiny bottle but it is meant to be amazing.

[xstian]

Cascade360 said:

Caliper on. Bloody hell i got brake fluid everywhere. At one point twirling the flexi onto the hardline brake fluid was spinning round like a Catherine Wheel.

I can't seem to get both ends tight and the hose not kinked. Is there a trick to this?

You need to install the flexi pipe to the caliper first. At the other end, the union on the end of the copper brake pipe should rotate freely, you can tighten this down to the flexi hose with no twisting.

[CarlosV8]

Cascade360 said:

Let's get it running before dropping big money on performance mods

Little things today...using Getechniq C4 Trim Restorer. Very expensive at 20 quid for a tiny bottle but it is meant to be amazing.

Would be interested to hear how you get on. I've used a Meguiars product recently which looked great initially but only lasted a few months. I've just brought a tube of v expensive Wurth Trim dye as seen a few people recommend it, so will give that a go this week.

On the performance front, I think its been mentioned before but lookout for a 205 XS/GT or AX GT twin choke Solex and manifold - should spice things up nicely and run OK with minimal tweaking. For now, good luck with the rebuild!

[aaron_2000]

Cascade360 said:

Let's get it running before dropping big money on performance mods

Little things today...using Getechniq C4 Trim Restorer. Very expensive at 20 quid for a tiny bottle but it is meant to be amazing.

How did you find it? I'm trying to tidy my GTI trim up and find a heat gun only works on the arches. I don't wanna paint the trim as I don't wanna risk removing the red inserts

[Cascade360]

aaron_2000 said:

How did you find it? I'm trying to tidy my GTI trim up and find a heat gun only works on the arches. I don't wanna paint the trim as I don't wanna risk removing the red inserts

It was super easy to use (clean, apply, remove excess with clean cloth) and made a marked, immediate difference. Of course, any cheap trim spray will do that, the true test is whether it will still be dark in a couple of weeks time ... will let you know.

On the 205 XS carb/manifold, this has been mentioned a few times and there was a second hand one for sale for £150, but I figured it is better to get it running first before spending money on upgrades. I have barely driven it ten miles in the seven months I've had it!

[Cascade360]

This is a pic of the front bumper which i treated yesterday and the back bumper which i didnt after the product has had time to dry overnight.

Not sure im that impressed...

[ReverendCounter]

Cascade360 said:

This is a pic of the front bumper which i treated yesterday and the back bumper which i didnt after the product has had time to dry overnight.

Not sure im that impressed...

See if you can procure yourself some plasticare trim dye, then once its dry go over with the product to make a nice rich semi gloss black. Was on eBay, can't see it.

This the stuff, but you want the Black version, unless your trim was actually Grey?



If you can't, this is good second best:

https://www.autobright.co.uk/dressings/restore-2-b...



There is also this, but it's expensive for the tube size at £30, haven't used it myself:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/1147551604

Might be worth just painting the exterior trim with satin black - but too many coats and you'll lose the texture.

Edited by ReverendCounter on Monday 19th July 11:15

[TEKNOPUG]

Never found any of the bumper trim products lasted long back in the day. Painting/dye is your best bet.

[Cascade360]

So the carb is apart!







Some nice residue:



Soaked it in Gunk Ultra for an hour or so and came out a lot cleaner. Did seem to leave crystallised deposits overnight so cleaned again with carb cleaner and WD40 this morning.



The gaskets all seemed in good nick other than the carb to inlet manifold one which disintegrated.

I am not entirely sure if the gasket kit I have got is correct. The gaskets are all the right shape but doesn't have holes in all the same places. Is this possibly because it is a gasket set with a dual use for two similar carbs (32 PBISA 16 and 34 PBISA 17)? Anyone have any idea what carb it is? It is stamped SOLEX 77273 and has a few other numbers on it but no stamp saying 32 PBISA 16 etc. Forums / Haynes suggest it is the 34 PBISA 17.

Query - do I need to / should I replace jets etc or is a good clean sufficient?

Not entirely convinced I will get it all back together but will give it a go ...