Fiesta ST stage 3 build

[mooseracer]

I've always used PS4s and really like them. Couldn't delay changing the fronts any longer recently and couldn't find the Michelins anywhere so have had to go Goodyear Eagle F1 A5 - only driven about 10 miles since so no idea what they are like yet!

[Dylanaledhall]

mooseracer said:

I've always used PS4s and really like them. Couldn't delay changing the fronts any longer recently and couldn't find the Michelins anywhere so have had to go Goodyear Eagle F1 A5 - only driven about 10 miles since so no idea what they are like yet!

I did a bit of reading last night and the PS4s are always regarded as the best overall tire (for both grip and wet road driving). There is another tire that was rated slightly higher but I've never heard of the brand so I'll just stick with the PS4s as they're decent. I think the Goodyear's are ok it's just everyine reccomends the michelins. Tell me how you get on with them in future

[Terry Tibbs]

I would be interested to hear how you get on with the Goodyear’s too, I’ve read a few reviews where they score quite well. I can’t find PS4’s anywhere at the moment unless they are silly money.

[Dylanaledhall]

Terry Tibbs said:

I would be interested to hear how you get on with the Goodyear’s too, I’ve read a few reviews where they score quite well. I can’t find PS4’s anywhere at the moment unless they are silly money.

Can't remember how much I paid for mine but worth it if they perform well in my opinion

[Dylanaledhall]

Just a little update for everyone that's been following. Ive just been for another quick drive to "charge the battery" ( needed an excuse) and the car is definitely performing really well. To be fair, torque feels mega and even in the wet conditions I'm not suffering from any wheel spin ( might be a different story if TC was off but don't want to push my luck). Michelins are definitely doing their magic and I think I'm suffering less torque steer than before, not too sure but I definitely feel like the car feels more controllable.

I'm currently on the lookout for a lower engine mount/ torque mount which is a highly regarded mod. Something else I'm looking for is some lowering springs and some better disks and pads. Anyone who's upgraded both springs and brakes let me know what you guys went for

[Dylanaledhall]

Decided to add a small white ST badge so it stands out a bit better, I've done the same to the badge at the back

[Dylanaledhall]

Hopefully this week hopefully the car will be getting a bit of maintenance. Annoyingly today when I took the car out the wind caught my door and snapped a hinge. Really annoying but thankfully hasn't damaged any panels. Just waiting for the part go turn up.

I also may need my handbrake tightened because I've noticed my car isn't staying where I leave it when it's on my driveway which is slanted. Not sure what could be causing it but it's definitely moving when parked up. Few others things need doing like I need to tightened due to it being slightly loose and one of the door seals isn't fully attached which has bugged me from day 1. Some gorilla glue or tiger seal should sort it. I'll let you guys know

[J4CKO]

My son was home for a few days, came back in my BMW, dropped it off and went back in his Fiesta ST, novelty has run out and he prefers the Fiesta. His mate dropped round (distanced of course) in a new ST, sounded really good and his other mate in an Golf R32, sounded even better.

Am not overjoyed at having the BMW back its easy, its comfy, its fast but the Fiesta is just more fun.

[Dylanaledhall]

J4CKO said:

My son was home for a few days, came back in my BMW, dropped it off and went back in his Fiesta ST, novelty has run out and he prefers the Fiesta. His mate dropped round (distanced of course) in a new ST, sounded really good and his other mate in an Golf R32, sounded even better.

Am not overjoyed at having the BMW back its easy, its comfy, its fast but the Fiesta is just more fun.

The 3cyl does sound good doesn't it. That R32 has double the cylinders so we all know why that sounds so good

It's really interesting that now both you and your son prefer the Fiesta. The M135i is in a different league but I guess once you find something that you genuinely enjoy you can't really bond with anything that doesn't give you the same feeling.

It's weird for me because as much as I like the Fiesta, I don't find myself smiling when I'm driving it. Maybe when restrictions ease I should go find some proper twisties but at the moment I'm not grinning from ear to ear like other people do. The fact I've now got stupid pops and bangs coming out the back and the car is a bit faster than stock does help but on my daily commutes I don't find myself smiling. No idea why because most people mention how fun the car is. I think it's very capable and the chassis is good but it's not a "go kart" by any stretch of the imagination.

Maybe I am being a bit unfair on it as my commute is literally mostly motorway so maybe I need to take it to some proper roads up the Valleys where I came from originally and give it a bit of a shakedown up there

[Dylanaledhall]

Good news guys, door got fixed today. Performance Tuning SW managed to fit it in today as they had space for me. Happy boy

On my way home today I found the car is deceivingly fast in its current state. I simply overtook 2 cars going up a hill today and the car easily passed 100mph without me noticing which scared me a bit because I really didn't think I was doing that speed, I thought I was doing 70ish. So to anyone on here that has an ST and plans to take it to stage 2 or stage 3 beware of your speed because it can climb without being obvious.

Another good thing is the fact I'm back in work next week so that should mean more money for Mods. Brakes will be sorted in March hopefully. At the same time hopefully the car will get some performance mods like a crossover pipe+ torque mount, and some exterior mods such as a spoiler extension and maybe some side skirts but we'll see.

Still debating what Turbo to get. For around £1200 Pumaspeed will supply an X47R with the Diverter valve and actuator as a bundle and does workout cheaper than buying all the parts seperate.

I'll keep you guys on here up to date as soon as I get some more parts on order. Cheers

[Dylanaledhall]

So it's been a while since I've bought anything for the car ( work commitments etc) now it's Easter I've decided to buy a Collins Performance rear mount which apparently limits engine movement and can limit wheel hop. We'll see if it actually does make a noticable difference. Should be fitted within a week or so I'll also be ordering a crossover pipe soon which will probably be an R-sport one for around £120. If anyone's interested, I paid £96 for the collins mount ( that included the part, the VAT and the delivery) apparently it's the best one so can't wait to get it fitted

[WCZ]

I was thinking of getting an s280 turbo for mine, and using the airtek stage2 intercooler I already have for cooling - I wonder if the stage3 one is excessive

[Dylanaledhall]

WCZ said:

I was thinking of getting an s280 turbo for mine, and using the airtek stage2 intercooler I already have for cooling - I wonder if the stage3 one is excessive

I'm thinking of going for an S280 too. I would probably recommend a stage 3 cooler if you are going to upgrade the turbo ( but that's just my opinion). I am running stage 2 at the moment but I bought an R-sport 450 intercooler just so I know I'll never have to change it (i.e instead of buying a stage 2 one to just change it for a stage 3 one in the end).

I believe with the S280 to get decent power, some people do recommend getting better injectors (a set on Pumaspeed will set you back around £500). I've seen S280s range massively power wise. I think the norm is 340bhp but with better injectors and boost pipes etc I've seen results towards 380bhp. I'm quite sure with higher boost levels they will run over 400bhp but that isn't advised on standard internals anyway

I'm still debating the X47R, VT330R, S280 and the Sabre 350. All pretty similar but the X47R is the most similar to the OEM turbo and can suffer from heat issues but it is the cheapest by far. But everyone seems to have a different opinion on them so I may go through different setups through my ownership if I decide to keep it for a decent amount of time

[WCZ]

Dylanaledhall said:

I'm thinking of going for an S280 too. I would probably recommend a stage 3 cooler if you are going to upgrade the turbo ( but that's just my opinion). I am running stage 2 at the moment but I bought an R-sport 450 intercooler just so I know I'll never have to change it (i.e instead of buying a stage 2 one to just change it for a stage 3 one in the end).

I believe with the S280 to get decent power, some people do recommend getting better injectors (a set on Pumaspeed will set you back around £500). I've seen S280s range massively power wise. I think the norm is 340bhp but with better injectors and boost pipes etc I've seen results towards 380bhp. I'm quite sure with higher boost levels they will run over 400bhp but that isn't advised on standard internals anyway

I'm still debating the X47R, VT330R, S280 and the Sabre 350. All pretty similar but the X47R is the most similar to the OEM turbo and can suffer from heat issues but it is the cheapest by far. But everyone seems to have a different opinion on them so I may go through different setups through my ownership if I decide to keep it for a decent amount of time

I've heard the s280 is super reliable and people have done big miles on them so that'd be my preference - also the power curve just looks like the stock one but amplified which is appealing as the low down torque is what makes these cars so nice

I'd personally be happy with the standard injectors at about 290-320hp - anything above that is a bit excessive imo and you'll really have to beef up the brakes/add lsd which can all get expensive pretty fast

my aim is to fit an s280 at some point then keep the car for a long time as with that kinda power realistially there's never going to be a petrol equivilent with that kinda power which is also that small

[Dylanaledhall]

WCZ said:

I've heard the s280 is super reliable and people have done big miles on them so that'd be my preference - also the power curve just looks like the stock one but amplified which is appealing as the low down torque is what makes these cars so nice

I'd personally be happy with the standard injectors at about 290-320hp - anything above that is a bit excessive imo and you'll really have to beef up the brakes/add lsd which can all get expensive pretty fast

my aim is to fit an s280 at some point then keep the car for a long time as with that kinda power realistially there's never going to be a petrol equivilent with that kinda power which is also that small

You're bang on right, for such a small, tunable package there isn't much that beats them

The LSD debate is a funny one, some people run them some don't. I imagine the ones that don't are the ones that can't quite justify the cost. If anyone on here is like me, I do like to work on my car but when it comes to stuff like an LSD or brakes I'd want it done properly by someone qualified. But then you're talking around £1000 for parts and labour while some people will be happy to live with the open diff. Me personally, I definitely want to get one but it's definitely not on the top of my list despite everyone saying it's the best mod you'll ever do to an ST.

Brakes wise, some run upgraded disks and pads and some go all out with a 6 pot big brake kit. I did originally want a Big Brake Kit but I've read many forums and some suggest that with around 320-340 just upgraded disks and pads will do. I am skeptical but I'll see how I feel. If I feel the upgraded disks and pads aren't up to the job then of course I may upgrade to 6 pots I think I'll go for j look disks and possibly yellowstuff pads, but then again, I'm still undecided. I'll see what my tuner says when I see him next week

[HazzaT]

On the LSD, on my Mk8 I only really felt the Quaife when I got it remapped! With the big power increase (just a remap on the Mk8 is equivalent to Stage 2 on the Mk7, 240-250ish bhp) you get a much stronger sensation of the outside wheel biting into the tarmac than at standard power. I've not driven a modified Mk7 but I'd guess it's similar

[Dylanaledhall]

HazzaT said:

On the LSD, on my Mk8 I only really felt the Quaife when I got it remapped! With the big power increase (just a remap on the Mk8 is equivalent to Stage 2 on the Mk7, 240-250ish bhp) you get a much stronger sensation of the outside wheel biting into the tarmac than at standard power. I've not driven a modified Mk7 but I'd guess it's similar

It's really nice that Ford offer it as an option for the mk8, correct me if I'm wrong but I think you could also spec coilovers from factory too? Was really tempted to get a Mk8 but for me the exterior while very handsome, just didn't have the slightly more agressive look of the Mk7. Dynamically and interior-wise the mk8 is quite far ahead in comparison to the mk7 in my opinion. I'd like to see how far the engine will go with a bit more money thrown at it, tuning is another thing that tempted me towards a Mk7. I have seen a Pumaspeed development Mk8 make around 300bhp but I don't know what had been done to it overall. Who knows, with forged rods and pistons the mk8 could make around 340bhp. Only time will tell

[HazzaT]

Dylanaledhall said:

It's really nice that Ford offer it as an option for the mk8, correct me if I'm wrong but I think you could also spec coilovers from factory too? Was really tempted to get a Mk8 but for me the exterior while very handsome, just didn't have the slightly more agressive look of the Mk7. Dynamically and interior-wise the mk8 is quite far ahead in comparison to the mk7 in my opinion. I'd like to see how far the engine will go with a bit more money thrown at it, tuning is another thing that tempted me towards a Mk7. I have seen a Pumaspeed development Mk8 make around 300bhp but I don't know what had been done to it overall. Who knows, with forged rods and pistons the mk8 could make around 340bhp. Only time will tell

Yes and no, you could get 'Ford Performance coilovers' which I believe are KW V3s with the special editions and you can buy them from the Ford Parts Store but I don't think you can spec them individually on a new order (though a dealer might fit them if you ask, I have no idea).

The Mk8 is a great car but I'm not too sure we'll see the engine reach the levels of the 1.6 in terms of power! It doesn't rev as high and the head design is inherently more restrictive than the old engine, it's maybe easier to get to the high 200s range but after that it hits a wall even with forged components etc.

That said, even without big power the aftermarket for the Mk8 is great, mine just has the map at the moment but I'm looking at getting mine in for some Eibach Redlines, Milltek exhaust and the revo intake kit soon. The 3 pot isn't perfect but it sounds awesome with a few mods!

[Dylanaledhall]

HazzaT said:

Yes and no, you could get 'Ford Performance coilovers' which I believe are KW V3s with the special editions and you can buy them from the Ford Parts Store but I don't think you can spec them individually on a new order (though a dealer might fit them if you ask, I have no idea).

The Mk8 is a great car but I'm not too sure we'll see the engine reach the levels of the 1.6 in terms of power! It doesn't rev as high and the head design is inherently more restrictive than the old engine, it's maybe easier to get to the high 200s range but after that it hits a wall even with forged components etc.

That said, even without big power the aftermarket for the Mk8 is great, mine just has the map at the moment but I'm looking at getting mine in for some Eibach Redlines, Milltek exhaust and the revo intake kit soon. The 3 pot isn't perfect but it sounds awesome with a few mods!

Have to agree, everytime I see a Mk8 I can't believe how good they sound Especially in comparison to other 3 pots on the market like the GR Yaris

[Dylanaledhall]

Ok so the torque mount has been fitted and only took the boys 20 minutes