E31 840Ci - first ever BMW (and a daily!)

E31 840Ci - first ever BMW (and a daily!)

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salmanorguk

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188 posts

93 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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salmanorguk said:
Thanks very much!
I've heard of the Duke of London one (in fact their Instagram shows an E32 at the last event) but not the Wimbledon one. Would you please have details of it - can't seem to find it on Google!
Thanks - just sent you a WhatsApp message to the number you gave - just click it to add yourself to the group

Somerset Jim

161 posts

64 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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wildatheart said:
Thanks! I haven't strayed too far mods wise - just gently upgraded it over the years with M5 bushes, camber plates, slight lowering, stainless exhaust - and the grilles and wheels, as you said. I had the headlining done recently (and changed from black to grey) which looks lovely





The 190 is for my daughter (though she is only 16 so I'm a bit keen smile

Will send PM now
Sorry to hijack the thread, but who did you use to do the headlining? I have an 840ci with black headlining which is sagging.

salmanorguk

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188 posts

93 months

Sunday 3rd April 2022
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The last month has turned out to be expensive in E31 ownership - not least thanks to the cost of petrol!

From previous post I ordered new tires.

Having a look on the ramp showed they were really close to illegal (probably another 50-100 miles) and the fronts had started to crack near the sidewalk. Really weird as they were changed about 6 months before I bought the car in Jan 2020 and had only done 7,000 miles in that time.

After some hunting around Oponeo came out with the best combo for cheapest and quickest. Ended up buying 4 Toyo Proxes Sport for £330. Placed the order 2pm on a Friday and by 10am Monday they’d already arrived.

I also took the opportunity to buy a new locking bolt set and wheel bolts all round as the ones on there were original and had started to corrode.

Got the wheel bolts from Driftworks. I ordered 25 to cover for “st happens” which was good foresight as during delivery 7 bolts had liberated themselves from the packaging. Told Driftworks what happened and they were super helpful and apologetic about it and sent new ones out at their cost the next day. Good service.

The locking bolts were by McGard (who apparently supply BMW). BMW wanted £54 for them (£13.5 a bolt!!) but I got them for £30 from Opie Oils.





salmanorguk

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188 posts

93 months

Sunday 3rd April 2022
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So then, after thinking I can relax, the aforementioned overheating issue occurred

A lot of fellow E31 owners thought it just needed a “special bleed” of the coolant however after spending three days at Moto Craft they diagnosed it as a failed heater control valve. Ffs.

I had taken it to Moto Craft as the proprietor owned an E31 and they had an appointment slot the next day. My usual garage had a slot 3 weeks later, and I needed the car on the road as I using it to take my mum to her cancer treatments.

Unfortunately Moto Craft do not do warranty work and it turned out a new control valve from BMW was £700. Double FFS.

They advised it would be a waste on money and it could be rebuilt, with a rebuild kit. Unfortunately the main supplier of these kits is a company in Kiev, Ukraine and they currently have war to win. Triple FFS.

Thankfully a substitute supplier was found in Germany but the shipping was longer. Just over 2 weeks and £40 later the kit arrived. This turned out to be some glorified rubber washers and two conical pieces of metal.


salmanorguk

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188 posts

93 months

Sunday 3rd April 2022
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At this point the car had spent three weeks in the garage and after the jobs were complete they went to start it and it wouldn’t start. Quadruple FFS.

After some faffing about it turned out the key had lost the coding and the engine wasn’t turning. A specialist was called by the garage and liberated me of some more money, but thankfully it started.

Today I treated it to a proper wash (snow foam - wash - clay bar - polish - seal), which I had to do in 4 hours so I could take my mum to her hospital appointment, and now I can’t feel my arms or legs.



I’ve been driving it around a few days now and all seems well - hopefully it stays that way!

Used it to pick up a VIP at the airport (my BIL):



And I've found the boot can easily take 8 bags of Wickes concrete as well as provide a nice surface for the local doner biggrin:



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I've also been really busy in the last few weeks trying to organise and setup a webshop for my artworks - and finally got it live today. Its available at: https://salman.org.uk/theprintshop/ and has a godo selection of car related stuff.



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(Mods not sure if para between lines is allowed, so if not please just remove.

Edited by salmanorguk on Sunday 3rd April 18:08

salmanorguk

Original Poster:

188 posts

93 months

Friday 3rd June 2022
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Jumbo in sound and size

At low speeds the car had started to sound like a 747 taxiing on a runway.
Culprit was the viscous fan/fan clutch.

Although it was changed by the previous owner in 2019 it was a third party item which doesnt have the renctangular bar running along the centre. BMW wanted $242 for an OEM part and a Mahle part (with a similar design) was £160.

Asked the E31 Whatsapp group for any recommendations and luckily a fellow owner was happy to let his go (he's twin turboing his engine).

Not only was he 4 miles away, the whole job was done for a quarter of the price BMW wanted just for the part. Result.

Heres a link to a pic of the OEM style part and what my old one looked like:



Dirrtttyyy

Thanks to the flip-flopping weather, not having a garage is getting quite annoying now. Washed it last Saturday and, lo and behold, monsoonical weather for the next three days.
(Also forecast for this weekend/week. rolleyes)

I have a basic Mercedes C-class as well, and apart from taking my mum to her chemo/hospital sessions, I use this all the time. Mileage has now crept up to 59,000ish miles.

This was the result after one 12 mile round trip to Richmond biggrin:


salmanorguk

Original Poster:

188 posts

93 months

Saturday 11th June 2022
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When I bought the car in Jan 2020 it had been recently detailed. Since then, especially by street parking it, whatever they used had worn off. Over the last few months cleaning the car had become a weekend ritual.

Yesterday I decided to give it a mini poor-mans detail.
Gave it a wash, clay bar, hand polish, and finished with Bilt auto balm. Started at 5:40pm and finished 9:50pm.

Biggest achievement was breaking the unwritten law, which is speaking to about 7 neighbours and somehow not one of them asked me to wash theirs biggrin

Thanks to the timing and my ineptitude with a camera, the only pic I took isn't great:



Took some more in the morning:





It’s obviously nowhere near the level of proper detailing (such as NigelOs recent Vantage, etc) but it’ll get me through June/July and then hopefully once work dies down I can treat it and get someone to do a thorough job.

Still using it as a daily, and here it is doing the grocery shop today:



Thankfully I'm continuing to work from home and only use it 2-3 times a week, otherwise I might have to reevaluate ownership with current petrol prices. Worked out to fill it from empty with E10 would cost £164.00 and I dont even want to think about V-Power!

Edited by salmanorguk on Saturday 11th June 21:33

JeremyH5

1,587 posts

136 months

Saturday 11th June 2022
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That looks very nice and shiny, good job. Glad to hear you’re still enjoying the car.

Spinakerr

1,184 posts

146 months

Sunday 12th June 2022
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salmanorguk said:
Biggest achievement was breaking the unwritten law, which is speaking to about 7 neighbours and somehow not one of them asked me to wash theirs biggrin
Please can you let me know if there are any houses available on your street, I need to move there!

Looks great and impressive amount covered in that timeframe. I bet your shoulders are telling you exactly how much work has been done today.

salmanorguk

Original Poster:

188 posts

93 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Spinakerr said:
Please can you let me know if there are any houses available on your street, I need to move there!

Looks great and impressive amount covered in that timeframe. I bet your shoulders are telling you exactly how much work has been done today.
Two days later and thanks to the manual/hand-pump snow foam and manual/hand polish my wrist still aches.

Reminds me of when I was 13 years old, discovered the internet for the first time and…

…actually I think we will leave that there biggrin

I think the neighbours looked at the time and thought I was mad hence no invitations!

salmanorguk

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188 posts

93 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Yesterday I had to go Kingston-upon-Thames highstreet and I live near Heathrow so did about 30 miles of scenic, convoluted, driving.

While certain areas are lovely to look at, the driving is terrible. If its not the militant taxi drivers, distracted school mums, or rude-boy college students keeping you on your toes, it's people like this:

Look where you're walking!

So busy waving goodbye to whoevers in that car, he walks right into the back of that Toyota. Was worried he might stagger back onto my bonnet, but thankfully not!

salmanorguk

Original Poster:

188 posts

93 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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A quick, boring, update on this just to keep the thread alive.

I've had the car for 33 months and 1 day now.

I bought it on 51,4xx miles and it is now on 61,3xx miles (too cold to check exact mileage) - so just under 3,500 miles per year.
Not exactly stellar numbers - and really need to drive it more!

I'm still using it as a daily and it is doing all of those tasks well so thats a plus.

I live inside a hosepipe ban area and have had to change washing tactics - and have switched to a rinseless car wash method (not sure why I bothered as my two neighbours continue to use a hosepipe - perhaps as they're chauffeurs the rules are different).

Thought this would save time but its probably even more of a ball-ache than usual two-bucket wash/detail biggrin

It probably doesn't help that I'm a bit st scared to do the "few microfibre cloths and two bucket method", and instead just bought loads of cloths to use once. It definitely adds to the washing load:



The paintwork has held up pretty well (although the alloys do need a refurb - just struggling to get time to leave the car with a company):







I had planned to move it on after 3 years (thought about trying a Lancia Fulvia, Audi RS4, or if budget allowed, a 996 C4S) but with car values tanking, I think I'll be keeping it for another year.

For example, I know of one 840ci thats a similar age, with half the mileage, and the owner will accept £16k eek - and on a few auction sites these are being unsold between £15-20k - so the market has definitely burst.

Anyway - tomorrow at 8am is the Wimbledon Southside Hustle, and provided I wake up in time, I hope to be there.

salmanorguk

Original Poster:

188 posts

93 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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Update time!

Last Tuesday I was merrily pootling along the Great West Road for Brentford v Gillingham and as I approached the Brentford rail station this happened:



Started overheating...again....FFS eek

It wasn't leaking, which was weird, so opened the bonnet and ran the heater for about an hour, just to vent the heat. However it was obvious there was an issue (and wasn't an air lock) so towed it home with tail between my legs* and this happened:



Arranged for the car to go to a specialist in East London (from West London).

Recovery truck came the next day at 5pm, and I went with the car (having a very nice natter on the way about Max v Lewis, England in sporting events, and the cost of horses) and arrived at 7:30pm.

Naturally, I had left the car keys in the home door when I was saying my goodbyes.

ARGGHHH.

Cue panic as now the car wouldn't come off the truck and would have to go to storage in St Albans.

Luckily both the specialist and AA agreed to wait while I had the keys taxied over. Debacle over I managed to get home for 11pm.

Specialist had a look the next day and diagnosed a failed water pump, which had then impacted the thermostat and viscous fan, and caused a cooling loss.

Luckily had a warranty (expiring 4th Jan lol) and they covered for the water pump and coolant, but wouldn't cover thermostat or fan. (I think they've change the policy rules a bit as previously they covered consequential damage as well. Think I'll now let it expire and just have a war fund)

Also had the specialist replace the belts, 3 rollers, replace two rubbers to stop leaks in engine, and recondition drivers seat.

Cars now back, covered just over 61,000 miles, and better than ever - somehow bit more efficient as well (returning 19mpg instead of 16) - so hopefully this recalcitrant bd will be okay for the next 12 months!

Need to get it booked for a service in January, but before then I'm having to go overseas for December so am sorting out storage.

Will upload some day pics when I get the chance.

  • to add insult to injury Brentford lost this game biggrin

keo

2,069 posts

171 months

Friday 18th November 2022
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Bit of bad luck but atleast you have it sorted now. Thanks for the update really interesting car.

salmanorguk

Original Poster:

188 posts

93 months

Monday 2nd January 2023
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Happy New Year to everyone - hope 2023 is our best year yet.

Small update on the car.

An unexpected need to spend 3 weeks abroad in December meant looking for emergency, short-term storage - and ultimately I couldn't find any so left it outside a friends house.

Despite what I hear was atrocious weather (rain, snow, etc) the car started up immediately upon my return. Very happy with that as these lumps of burden take two batteries!

Put it to use immediately with grocery shopping and a large trip to deliver house tiles to my BIL - this again in appalling weather:





I don't think I'll be winning any concours awards biggrin :



Hopefully after I've caught up on work I'll be treating it to a service and a rear brake disc/pads change.

Managed to get a good end-of-year deal via Autodoc so parts for once were reasonable!

Mr Tidy

22,443 posts

128 months

Monday 2nd January 2023
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Great to see it getting used as a proper daily. thumbup

JuiceTerry

123 posts

93 months

Friday 27th January 2023
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Lovely car, I had one myself a few years back, I bought it knowing it wouldn’t fit in my garage and after a couple years it started the paint started to bubble in a few places. This along with a few other problems (steering and batteries forever draining) led me to sell it. The guy who bought it intended to spend money to get it back to concourse condition.

salmanorguk

Original Poster:

188 posts

93 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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Thanks MrTidy and JuiceTerry for the kind words!

1st March 2023

Hope everyones been keeping well - time for a small update

Car has been absolutely faultless since the last issue – which was, er… Nov 2022 (so not long!)

Today I had the car serviced and the rear brake discs/pads changed.

I live near Heathrow and the choice was to take it to a very good BMW independent nearby (in Hayes - P&R BMW) or to the specialist who resolved the coolant issue in November, but who are situated in East London, near Ilford.

I decided to go to Ilford, mainly as they solved the last issue, but also as they are one of two specialists the 100 strong E31 Whatsapp group rave about. So a near 90 min, 20 miles commute in morning rush hour along the North Circular was undertaken. A mixture of stop-star traffic and dual carriageways at 50mph returned just 19 mpg – eek.

I know the garage doesn’t look like much, and is very much old school, but the four man crew really know their stuff. The owner has an E31, as well as a few highly strung Italian exotica, and the garage was recently entrusted with mechanically restoring the (OG) Koenig 850CSI, which had sat for a lot of years. I also learnt BMW Manchester tried to fix another E31 but couldn’t so were sending it here tomorrow.



Got to the place on time and promptly wasted about 30min with one of the techs learning about this E-Type Jag outside. Apparently an American barn find, owned by an architect, who had it shipped from California to them for mechanical recommissioning. Obviously very ratty on top, but very shiny inside:



Normally due to its age I find the E31 fights you on everything when spannering but luckily yesterday was straightforward – no seized bolts, no leaks, etc.

To start with all the filters were replaced – air, cabin, fuel, and oil.






The spark plugs were inspected and deemed good with plenty of life left in them – so left them as is:



Then the oil, power steering fluid, brake fluid, screen wash, and a few others were refreshed.



Lastly, we moved onto the brakes and it was clear the rear discs were well past their best! We think they hadn’t been changed for at least 5 years – but no matter – all shiny and new now:




The full visit took a leisurely 5-6 hours and the final bill (which was for parts and labour, sans brake parts that I supplied) was very reasonable. In fact I found it was £290 cheaper than the main Mercedes dealer is charging my dad to do an A service on his C200!

Again drove it back through rush hour, but this time through central London, and this time I got around 22mpg – much better. This morning I took my dad to the Mercedes dealership via the motorway and was getting a very respectable 29mpg – I think once bedded in and on a longer drive I’ll be getting 35mpg.

More importantly car felt a lot tighter and the brakes had a lot more feel. Happy days!

pmorg4

721 posts

117 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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Brilliant update and the car is looking lovely! Makes me wish I still had my manual E31, utterly timeless.

I like that the garage specialises in E31s, E-type Jags and Zafiras biglaugh

What are your plans now in terms of how long you'll keep it?

salmanorguk

Original Poster:

188 posts

93 months

Thursday 2nd March 2023
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pmorg4 said:
Brilliant update and the car is looking lovely! Makes me wish I still had my manual E31, utterly timeless.

I like that the garage specialises in E31s, E-type Jags and Zafiras biglaugh

What are your plans now in terms of how long you'll keep it?
Thanks very much!

Yes they get all sorts at that garage - after the Zafira they had a Citroen DS3 Racing with a lurched engine to sort out and earlier the team had fixed up a DB7.

I've had it just over 3 years now so ideally would like to move this on.

In its plus points are the low mileage (62k) and well optioned specification, however against it, is the current classic car market thats tanked (the E31 seemingly having taken quite a hit - we're seeing cars sell for about £5-7k below value).

And secondly this is ULEZ free and finding interesting, classic, daily drivers as replacements are proving difficult. I would love a Volvo Amazon or Datsun 240/260 but they are quite thin on the ground.

But obviously everything is for sale at the right price so if anyones interested do get in touch!

I've never driven a manual E31, and Im sure it'll be much more engaging than this auto?