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W201_190e said:
Really lovely looking 630i, I absolutely love these. Not sure if there would be a premium to run one of these over a 5 Series. Maybe a car on my radar when I can bring myself to get out of my current shed.
Initial thoughts - it "feels" more complex. Maybe thats just the extra equipment it has but it does feel like the extra refinement / size / extras on it over the 330i could bite me at some point. Couple of wee nigly things need sorted. Could be a few pounds, could be a few hundred. That starts to add up....Maybe i just need to build confidence in it over time. Get to know it.
Thats maybe not an issue on one of these new / nearly new so you'd just drop it back to the main dealer under warranty, but theres a lot of tech in there thats 15 years old now and would be "painful" if it went wrong / stopped working.
And no, its not an M5 v10 or a supercar but it definitely feels a level "up" in terms of maintenance.
We'll see.
mattman said:
Nice looking car OP. Had a 645 cab a few years back and loved that car - still looks modern and a lot more expensive than it actually is.
Pretty rapid too when you want it to be
Pretty rapid too when you want it to be
5mileofdeath said:
Lovely set of cars their OP.
Those Z4 Coupe's are growing on me.. There's one for sale near me, 3.0si black with CSL alloys looks the muts nuts..
Those Z4 Coupe's are growing on me.. There's one for sale near me, 3.0si black with CSL alloys looks the muts nuts..
cerb4.5lee said:
That is a lovely new addition to your fleet for sure. 
Enjoy it.
Enjoy it.
Mr Tidy said:
I wasn't too sure about the 6 Series back in the day, but every time I see one they just seem to look better!
Love your fleet too.
Thanks. Yes, its another one of those cars you just rarely see any more. Cant recall the last time i saw one out and about. And they do seem to suddenly feel "right".Love your fleet too.
sdh2903 said:
Car looks nice, I'm a couple of months in now of e63 ownership and I the car has really grown on me.
I too have corroded black trims mainly around the windows but a bit on the mirror base aswell. I have seen someone had them wrapped rather than repainted and they looked really good. I really don't fancy removing them all. Following how you get on with it.
I think i'm going to bite the bullet, take it off, sand it down and spray it. I too have corroded black trims mainly around the windows but a bit on the mirror base aswell. I have seen someone had them wrapped rather than repainted and they looked really good. I really don't fancy removing them all. Following how you get on with it.
I'd an electric sander "mouse" type thing and a dremel with all the sanding bits so hoping to make short work of the corrosion between the two of those. Must look in to aluminium rust eater, primer and the best gloss black top coat.
Edited by Deep Thought on Sunday 2nd May 00:05
W201_190e said:
Really lovely looking 630i, I absolutely love these. Not sure if there would be a premium to run one of these over a 5 Series. Maybe a car on my radar when I can bring myself to get out of my current shed.
Mechanically pretty much a 5 Series underneath.I asked a similar question a number of years ago. Another very useful thread here.
The N52 3.0 petrol is a known quantity and fairly robust. The later N53 has the niggly issues with injectors and HP FP. Autoboxes are ZF 6HP units. BMW say sealed for life, ZF disagrees and suggest service every 60k.
The interior build quality on these is excellent. They do feel a massive step up over a 3 Series and notably nicer than a (E60) 5 Series and as I mentioned earlier in the thread, the 6 has much more kit as standard and seemingly more likely to be optioned with goodies such as the heated seats, Panoramic Roof, Pro Hifi (fantastic sounding BTW) and HUD.
g3org3y said:
Mechanically pretty much a 5 Series underneath.
I asked a similar question a number of years ago. Another very useful thread here.
The N52 3.0 petrol is a known quantity and fairly robust. The later N53 has the niggly issues with injectors and HP FP. Autoboxes are ZF 6HP units. BMW say sealed for life, ZF disagrees and suggest service every 60k.
The interior build quality on these is excellent. They do feel a massive step up over a 3 Series and notably nicer than a (E60) 5 Series and as I mentioned earlier in the thread, the 6 has much more kit as standard and seemingly more likely to be optioned with goodies such as the heated seats, Panoramic Roof, Pro Hifi (fantastic sounding BTW) and HUD.
Out of curiosity, how would you know if that had been installed? The sound system seems much better than how i recall the standard sound system sounded on my 2007 535d.I asked a similar question a number of years ago. Another very useful thread here.
The N52 3.0 petrol is a known quantity and fairly robust. The later N53 has the niggly issues with injectors and HP FP. Autoboxes are ZF 6HP units. BMW say sealed for life, ZF disagrees and suggest service every 60k.
The interior build quality on these is excellent. They do feel a massive step up over a 3 Series and notably nicer than a (E60) 5 Series and as I mentioned earlier in the thread, the 6 has much more kit as standard and seemingly more likely to be optioned with goodies such as the heated seats, Panoramic Roof, Pro Hifi (fantastic sounding BTW) and HUD.
sdh2903 said:
If it has a centre speaker on the dash and speakers in the rear quarters is a visual indicator. There's also a graphic equaliser menu in I drive for the upgraded stereo.
Yes, just checked there and it does indeed have the centre speaker on the dash. Must have a look for the graphic equaliser menu next time i start it.Well pleased with that.
Just did a VIN check and it also has comfort access which i hadnt picked up on.
Edited by Deep Thought on Sunday 2nd May 11:58
Deep Thought said:
Initial thoughts - it "feels" more complex. Maybe thats just the extra equipment it has but it does feel like the extra refinement / size / extras on it over the 330i could bite me at some point. Couple of wee nigly things need sorted. Could be a few pounds, could be a few hundred. That starts to add up....
Maybe i just need to build confidence in it over time. Get to know it.
Thats maybe not an issue on one of these new / nearly new so you'd just drop it back to the main dealer under warranty, but theres a lot of tech in there thats 15 years old now and would be "painful" if it went wrong / stopped working.
And no, its not an M5 v10 or a supercar but it definitely feels a level "up" in terms of maintenance.
We'll see.
Whilst obviously not a simple beast, there are a lot of how to’s and guides for fixing stuff online if you’re willing to give it a go. I’ve only really bothered in the last couple of years but it can take s the sting out of stuff.Maybe i just need to build confidence in it over time. Get to know it.
Thats maybe not an issue on one of these new / nearly new so you'd just drop it back to the main dealer under warranty, but theres a lot of tech in there thats 15 years old now and would be "painful" if it went wrong / stopped working.
And no, its not an M5 v10 or a supercar but it definitely feels a level "up" in terms of maintenance.
We'll see.
At least the N52 is a known quantity.
Court_S said:
Deep Thought said:
Initial thoughts - it "feels" more complex. Maybe thats just the extra equipment it has but it does feel like the extra refinement / size / extras on it over the 330i could bite me at some point. Couple of wee nigly things need sorted. Could be a few pounds, could be a few hundred. That starts to add up....
Maybe i just need to build confidence in it over time. Get to know it.
Thats maybe not an issue on one of these new / nearly new so you'd just drop it back to the main dealer under warranty, but theres a lot of tech in there thats 15 years old now and would be "painful" if it went wrong / stopped working.
And no, its not an M5 v10 or a supercar but it definitely feels a level "up" in terms of maintenance.
We'll see.
Whilst obviously not a simple beast, there are a lot of how to’s and guides for fixing stuff online if you’re willing to give it a go. I’ve only really bothered in the last couple of years but it can take s the sting out of stuff.Maybe i just need to build confidence in it over time. Get to know it.
Thats maybe not an issue on one of these new / nearly new so you'd just drop it back to the main dealer under warranty, but theres a lot of tech in there thats 15 years old now and would be "painful" if it went wrong / stopped working.
And no, its not an M5 v10 or a supercar but it definitely feels a level "up" in terms of maintenance.
We'll see.
At least the N52 is a known quantity.
I'm fortunate in that theres a really good BMW indy a mile up the road from us who looks after our other cars, and 4 miles the other direction is the BMW indy who has looked after this car since it was 3 years old.
As you say, they're a known quantity so i cant imagine i'll ever hit a problem that there isnt a known fix for.
Deep Thought said:
sdh2903 said:
If it has a centre speaker on the dash and speakers in the rear quarters is a visual indicator. There's also a graphic equaliser menu in I drive for the upgraded stereo.
Yes, just checked there and it does indeed have the centre speaker on the dash. Must have a look for the graphic equaliser menu next time i start it.Well pleased with that.
Just did a VIN check and it also has comfort access which i hadnt picked up on.
Pro HiFi:
From all the 630s I looked at, it seemed Comfort Access was actually a very uncommon option.
Anything else revealed on the spec you weren't aware of? (Active Steering, Dynamic Drive, Adaptive Lights etc?)
g3org3y said:
Nice, enjoy!
Pro HiFi:
From all the 630s I looked at, it seemed Comfort Access was actually a very uncommon option.
Anything else revealed on the spec you weren't aware of? (Active Steering, Dynamic Drive, Adaptive Lights etc?)
Seems otherwise to be inline with expectations. Heres the list from the VIN checker.Pro HiFi:
From all the 630s I looked at, it seemed Comfort Access was actually a very uncommon option.
Anything else revealed on the spec you weren't aware of? (Active Steering, Dynamic Drive, Adaptive Lights etc?)
205,Automatic Transmission
216,Servotronic
2C7,L.-a. Wheels Star Spoke Runflat/mix T.
302,Alarm System
320,"Model Designation, Deletion"
322,Comfort Access System
414,"Stowage Net, Passenger Side"
423,"Floor Mats, Velour"
428,Warning Triangle
430,Interior And Exterior Mirror Packa
431,Interior Rr Vw Mirror W Aut Anti-d
434,Interior Trim
441,Smokers Package
442,Cupholder
459,"Seat Adjustm., Electr. W. Memory"
481,Sport Seats F Driver/front Passenger
494,Seat Heating F Driver/front Passenger
502,Headlight Washer System
508,Park Distance Control (pdc)
522,Xenon Light
534,Automatic Air Conditioning
540,Cruise Control
563,Lights Package
5AC,Autom. High-beam Headlights Control
609,Navigation System Professional
612,Bmw Assist
620,Voice Input System
633,Prep.mob. Ph. Business Bluet.interf.
676,Hifi Loudspeaker System
698,Area-code 2
710,M Leather Steering Wheel
760,Individual High-gloss Satin Chrome
775,Individual Roof-lining Anthracite
812,England Version
850,Add Fuel Tank Filling For Export
853,Language Version English
863,Europe/dealer Directory
877,Deletion Cross-over Operation
880,English / On-board Documentation
8SA,Country Spec. Release Of Navigation
8SM,"Vin, Visible From Outside"
8SP,Cop Control
Deep Thought said:
Yeah i guess i just need to bond with the car.
I'm fortunate in that theres a really good BMW indy a mile up the road from us who looks after our other cars, and 4 miles the other direction is the BMW indy who has looked after this car since it was 3 years old.
As you say, they're a known quantity so i cant imagine i'll ever hit a problem that there isnt a known fix for.
I have found I've slowly been getting more attached to mine over the last thousand miles. It's no b road blaster but it's still very surprisingly competent over both twisties and also cruising, also has a reasonable turn of pace when required. Mines an N53 and had a few of the known issues but I bought it cheap enough to cover it. Apart from these parts prices are comparable to any other bmw I've had. There's obviously bork potential if an electronic module went down etc but the rest of the mechanicals are mostly common with the 5 series.I'm fortunate in that theres a really good BMW indy a mile up the road from us who looks after our other cars, and 4 miles the other direction is the BMW indy who has looked after this car since it was 3 years old.
As you say, they're a known quantity so i cant imagine i'll ever hit a problem that there isnt a known fix for.
Looks to me that you don't have the ProHiFi. I think all the E63 dashboards have the grill for the speaker, but only Pro HiFi has the speaker underneath.
ProHiFi option is 677 = "HiFi System Professional DSP".
Option 216 Servotronic = Active Steering
Option 5AC Autom. High-beam Headlights Control = Looks like High Beam Assist.
Info re the Servotronic/Active Steering option:
ProHiFi option is 677 = "HiFi System Professional DSP".
Option 216 Servotronic = Active Steering
Option 5AC Autom. High-beam Headlights Control = Looks like High Beam Assist.
Info re the Servotronic/Active Steering option:
Edited by g3org3y on Sunday 2nd May 13:33
g3org3y said:
Looks to me that you don't have the ProHiFi. I think all the E63 dashboards have the grill for the speaker, but only Pro HiFi has the speaker underneath.
ProHiFi option is 677 = "HiFi System Professional DSP".
Option 216 Servotronic = Active Steering
Option 5AC Autom. High-beam Headlights Control = Looks like High Beam Assist.
Info re the Servotronic/Active Steering option:
You;re right. I went out and had a root about under the seats. No speakers under there. Still pleasantly surprised with the system thats in it irrespective.ProHiFi option is 677 = "HiFi System Professional DSP".
Option 216 Servotronic = Active Steering
Option 5AC Autom. High-beam Headlights Control = Looks like High Beam Assist.
Info re the Servotronic/Active Steering option:
Edited by g3org3y on Sunday 2nd May 13:33
Will have a watch at that video, thanks
Are you sure as even the standard hifi system has woofers under the seats in the coupe? They aren't massively obvious when looking but when you crank the volume you can feel it.
Mine is an lci and has a bit of a mish mash of both setups. As far as I can tell I have the standard stereo but I do have a centre dash speaker. It's a really good system though.
Mine is an lci and has a bit of a mish mash of both setups. As far as I can tell I have the standard stereo but I do have a centre dash speaker. It's a really good system though.
sdh2903 said:
Are you sure as even the standard hifi system has woofers under the seats in the coupe? They aren't massively obvious when looking but when you crank the volume you can feel it.
Mine is an lci and has a bit of a mish mash of both setups. As far as I can tell I have the standard stereo but I do have a centre dash speaker. It's a really good system though.
Yeah there was something there but they didnt look that big. I assumed they werent the upgrade. Also no rear quarter panel speakers.Mine is an lci and has a bit of a mish mash of both setups. As far as I can tell I have the standard stereo but I do have a centre dash speaker. It's a really good system though.
Deep Thought said:
Yeah i guess i just need to bond with the car.
I'm fortunate in that theres a really good BMW indy a mile up the road from us who looks after our other cars, and 4 miles the other direction is the BMW indy who has looked after this car since it was 3 years old.
As you say, they're a known quantity so i cant imagine i'll ever hit a problem that there isnt a known fix for.
And learn to trust it. Took me a while to trust the 125i we bought in January. Her previous 116i 2as easy to trust because her mum and dad had owned it since 2008.I'm fortunate in that theres a really good BMW indy a mile up the road from us who looks after our other cars, and 4 miles the other direction is the BMW indy who has looked after this car since it was 3 years old.
As you say, they're a known quantity so i cant imagine i'll ever hit a problem that there isnt a known fix for.
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