New Family Wagon: Legacy 3.0 R Spec B

New Family Wagon: Legacy 3.0 R Spec B

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Cambs_Stuart

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2,882 posts

85 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Just a quick oil change for the legacy before it gets too cold for crawling around on the driveway.

I've gone from 5W30 to 5W40. Hopefully that'll help the engine get to 150,000 miles and beyond. Fuchs Titan GT1 is both Renault RN710 and Porsche A40 compatible, so it should be good for the clio and the legacy.



Last change I stuck a magnetic gold plug in the sump, so it's good so see it came out almost completely clean.



The only downside is that the only torque wrench I've got that will accurately do up a 20 nm bolt is tiny and looks a bit silly with a 26mm socket on the end.



I'm getting better at this. For the first time doing an oil change at home I didn't make a mess of the driveway...


Onwards with crossed fingers to the next MOT!

Cambs_Stuart

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2,882 posts

85 months

Monday 29th January
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The good news is that the legacy has a nice clean MOT pass.
The downside is that the exhaust is now sounding really fruity on one side...
Some things on these cars are so common they are practically a rite of passage. In this case the rear "Y" join rusting out.



There are a few options for the center/rear section that aren't that expensive.
However, when i had the front, post manifold Y collection fixed I've no longer got a standard flange to attach a standard part to.


So, i can either buy a standard rear section and bodge it to the fabricated front, or bin the rest of the OEM exhaust and get a back section fabricated.

Chimune

3,182 posts

224 months

Monday 29th January
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Hehe mine alao has brand new MOT with zero advisories - but has started to blow a bit at the y join (which was repaired by previous owner).

Cambs_Stuart

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2,882 posts

85 months

Friday 9th February
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Another big bill later and I've got a shiny new stainless exhaust:



New Y piece, backboxes and tips.
The left side had always hung slightly lower, so it's nice to havevthem even now. And it spunds brilliant.

Chimune

3,182 posts

224 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Just about to order recon starter motor as ours now needs occasional smack with hammer. Cleaned all local earth points and battery terminals but no improvement.

Cambs_Stuart

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2,882 posts

85 months

Monday 4th March
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Chimune said:
Just about to order recon starter motor as ours now needs occasional smack with hammer. Cleaned all local earth points and battery terminals but no improvement.
Good idea to get one on order. You just know the old one will fail at the most inconvenient moment.

At work it's been mentioned that someone in my position, with a car allowance, should have a car of less than 10 years of age. No idea how this can/will be enforced, as i know other managers who don't drive, who get a car allowance...

TEKNOPUG

18,974 posts

206 months

Monday 4th March
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Cambs_Stuart said:
Chimune said:
Just about to order recon starter motor as ours now needs occasional smack with hammer. Cleaned all local earth points and battery terminals but no improvement.
Good idea to get one on order. You just know the old one will fail at the most inconvenient moment.

At work it's been mentioned that someone in my position, with a car allowance, should have a car of less than 10 years of age. No idea how this can/will be enforced, as i know other managers who don't drive, who get a car allowance...
Car Allowance is just a taxable payment. Unless you have to use your car for client visits, it's irrelevant what you spend the money on.

I've had car allowances before, even when everyone travelled to client sites by train...

You need to read what's in in your T&Cs. Some companies offer a 3rd party inspection others will make discretionary exceptions. Some reduce the allowance depending upon the cars age. As you say, people without cars still get a car allowance. Do you have to regularly visit client sites?

Marquezs Stabilisers

1,237 posts

62 months

Monday 4th March
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Cambs_Stuart said:
Good idea to get one on order. You just know the old one will fail at the most inconvenient moment.

At work it's been mentioned that someone in my position, with a car allowance, should have a car of less than 10 years of age. No idea how this can/will be enforced, as i know other managers who don't drive, who get a car allowance...
In one of my old jobs we got a car allowance whether or not we could drive. I had a 1,000cc Honda motorbike and that seemed to keep everyone unhappy...

Cambs_Stuart

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2,882 posts

85 months

Monday 4th March
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Marquezs Stabilisers said:
In one of my old jobs we got a car allowance whether or not we could drive. I had a 1,000cc Honda motorbike and that seemed to keep everyone unhappy...
Looking around there are so many exceptions, I suspect it the company policy would be unenforceable. I don't visit Customers, and rarely suppliers. Travel for work usually means it sits in an airport car park.
I suspect the director wanted to talk about his new range rover...

Spinakerr

1,184 posts

146 months

Wednesday 6th March
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I missed the new exhaust! It looks great, hope all is well in LegacyLand

Cambs_Stuart

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2,882 posts

85 months

Friday 8th March
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I am very happy with the new exhaust, the rumble on start up does make me smile!

Chimune

3,182 posts

224 months

Monday 25th March
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Random q - anyone got old centre diff for 6mt hanging around?

Just wanna refurbed one but they all exchange only and dont want car out of action for weeks.

Prt is 38913AA112

Tia

Cambs_Stuart

Original Poster:

2,882 posts

85 months

Monday 25th March
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Chimune said:
Random q - anyone got old centre diff for 6mt hanging around?

Just wanna refurbed one but they all exchange only and dont want car out of action for weeks.

Prt is 38913AA112

Tia
There's a chap on the legacy Facebook called Neville Davy who regularly breaks legacies. He's based in Boston, Lincs. Might be worth seeing what he's got.

Chimune

3,182 posts

224 months

Thursday 28th March
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Thanks for that - but i cant find him ! Could you post a link or dm me one please ?
Im a luddite with no fb account...

Cambs_Stuart

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2,882 posts

85 months

Saturday 20th April
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Chimune said:
Thanks for that - but i cant find him ! Could you post a link or dm me one please ?
Im a luddite with no fb account...
I did try, but they a. Didn't have any gearboxes and b. Were very reluctant to give out any contact details.
Sorry.

Chimune

3,182 posts

224 months

Saturday 20th April
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Ahh no worries - thanks for trying!

Cambs_Stuart

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2,882 posts

85 months

Saturday 20th April
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The legacy has been doing a few more miles recently. The project I'm on has me traveling around a bit more. Apart from the fuel consumption, it's been great.

So, time for fresh engine oil, air filter and oil filter. On my clio thread someone helpfully pointed out the difference between APEC spec oils. I had been using C3, which is meant for modern cars with DPF, OPF etc fitted. The legacy (and the clio) pre date this kind of tech so are better suited to an A3/B4 spec oil. Which is nice, as it's generally cheaper than C3.
The elf is both Renault RN710 and Porsche A40 (still the best proxy for a Subaru spec I can find) so that's in.



While I was oil shopping I also found some fancy millers nanodrive in the sale, so I've also changed the gearbox oil. I'll do the diff next time I've got some free time.



The gearbox sump is behind a couple of panels, and the sump plug was really tight. I used an impact, which let go suddenly, made me jump and drop everything in the bucket of oil. So no pictures as I was swearing. You'll just have to imagine how everything smells.

But the sump plug is huge. 21mm socket needed to shift it. It's all back together and torqued to 50nm.



Originally when I bought this car, the plan was to keep it for three years, then sell it and the clio to buy something low insurance for my son, and some sort of "fun" family car for me. But I've been for a drive in a couple of hot hatches (Leon cupra and 308 gti by Peugeot sport), and while they're nice and new and very good to drive, I just don't have the desire for them that I normally do when I buy a new car. I only seem to be drawn to cars older than 2007...

Scoobydrew95

228 posts

20 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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What kinda fuel consumption/range are managing to achieve from this?

I feel that's the greatest question when it comes to thoughts on replacement. I feel there are so many poor compromises you have to pick when going towards newer cars. headache

sam.rog

769 posts

79 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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My 3.0 facelift auto was 22mpg average. It was around 18mpg round town and up to 30-32mpg on a motorway at 70.
Fuel consumption isn’t its strong point.
But when you consider it as a whole package it’s a small price to pay when the rest of the car is so good.

I only sold mine as the tax was near enough £700 a year and my milage looked like it was going up considerably.
I sold it for a e90 330d. That was a better car in every possible way but I missed the legacy. So I sold it and got a JDM 2.0 turbo. Tax was less than half and mpg about the same or marginally better.

Uk spec b


Jdm tuned by sti.

Scoobydrew95

228 posts

20 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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sam.rog said:
My 3.0 facelift auto was 22mpg average. It was around 18mpg round town and up to 30-32mpg on a motorway at 70.
Fuel consumption isn’t its strong point.
But when you consider it as a whole package it’s a small price to pay when the rest of the car is so good.

I only sold mine as the tax was near enough £700 a year and my milage looked like it was going up considerably.
I sold it for a e90 330d. That was a better car in every possible way but I missed the legacy. So I sold it and got a JDM 2.0 turbo. Tax was less than half and mpg about the same or marginally better.

Uk spec b


Jdm tuned by sti.
That STi looks great! Yeah the tax always seems an absolute bd with the legacys.