Yet more legacy

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S100HP

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12,689 posts

168 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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Following on from https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... I have decided I'm still not done with Subaru. The itch is back.

For anyone interested, the previous Legacy I had was a BP5. This is a 4th generation built between 2003 and 2009. It was quite thirsty and a few things annoyed me with it, crack in the dash, headunit/nav not working but it was a fun car to own. I sold it mostly because it was a very easy sale and I made a few quid for nothing. It also felt a tad dated.

Afterwards I moved onto a Citroen C5 https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... which is a lovely car, don't get me wrong, just a bit dull, which I hate to admit my friend Kitchski warned me of.

A few months ago I started chatting to an importer about the BR9 Legacy. This is the 5th generation, built between 2009-2012. It's a JDM car only, with a 2.5 turbo discussed here https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-spottedykywt/s...

We bid on a few, missing out by a few hundred quid here and there until I managed to grab this one.



107km, grade 4 Legacy GT on its way to me as we speak. ETA is about 12-14 weeks due to delays in Japan. Then I need to get it registered here, and then sell the C5. Hoping to have it on the road by the end of the year. I went for another auto as I just like an auto for daily use. Originally I wanted heated leather and eyesight but have knocked both those on the head for this one as it looked so good. Leather has been horrible this last few weeks anyway!

Fingers crossed this one remains for a while!





It also comes with a 2nd set of wheels, which are shrink wrapped in the boot. I'm assuming they are the originals but we'll find out. Wish me luck.

Pebbles167

3,460 posts

153 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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Can't say I love the.looks of the newer ones, but still, I hear it's a good car. I wonder what's the handling like? Or if they are much heavier in the bends?

I have a BP5 twinscroll, and agree, they are getting a bit long in the tooth. Very capable cars though. Not sure what I'll replace it with when I do. Possibly one of these, but also got a bit of an itch for one of those ugly Subaru Exiga imports.

Enjoy your purchase!

Cambs_Stuart

2,882 posts

85 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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Having previously owned and sold a JDM Legacy, I've also gone back to a Legacy as a family car, mine is a 3.0 B spec R. It's a bit tatty and leggy, but given that these days I'm working from home and only doing a few thousand miles per year it's a good stop gap.
As much as I like the manual box and N/A engine, I do miss the power from the twinscoll.

S100HP

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12,689 posts

168 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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Cambs_Stuart said:
Having previously owned and sold a JDM Legacy, I've also gone back to a Legacy as a family car, mine is a 3.0 B spec R. It's a bit tatty and leggy, but given that these days I'm working from home and only doing a few thousand miles per year it's a good stop gap.
As much as I like the manual box and N/A engine, I do miss the power from the twinscoll.
The twinscroll was a lovely smooth engine, but lacked any real noise. The H6 in yours has a great noise I believe and the 2.5 in my new one has the classic Subaru sound, which should make quite a difference. Economy is better too with high 30s achievable.

Cambs_Stuart

2,882 posts

85 months

Wednesday 28th July 2021
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S100HP said:
The twinscroll was a lovely smooth engine, but lacked any real noise. The H6 in yours has a great noise I believe and the 2.5 in my new one has the classic Subaru sound, which should make quite a difference. Economy is better too with high 30s achievable.
The H6 is a great engine, even at 130k miles it's incredibly smooth. Mine could so with a bit more noise, but as a stopgap car I don't want to spend too much on it, and it's already got a stainless exhaust. It's a bit thirsty though.

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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Interesting. I prefer the older shape if I am being honest and manual, but for you this looks like a good match.

Is the 2.5 in this as bad as the UK 2.5?

Cambs_Stuart

2,882 posts

85 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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From memory the later (2010 onwards) 2.5 turbos became a bit less fragile.

carinaman

21,331 posts

173 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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The side glass reminds me of the last shape SAAB 9-3 estate.

S100HP

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12,689 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st July 2021
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Cambs_Stuart said:
From memory the later (2010 onwards) 2.5 turbos became a bit less fragile.
This I too believe. I had the 2.5 in that Hawkeye and it was a lovely engine, shame about the rest of the car. I don't think this version of the engine suffers from the same issue of chocolate rings.

Looks are marmite it seems. Most in the legacy groups don't like the look, personally I don't see much difference. Only negative is the loss of pillarless doors.

S100HP

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12,689 posts

168 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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Boat time. Leaving Japan 24th September, due into UK 5th November.

It's not a quick process!

carinaman

21,331 posts

173 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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In that thread, Pebbles167 mentioned the cost of tax on imports:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

What's the import tax like?

Will it be in a lower RFL bracket due to being a JDM import?

Pebbles167

3,460 posts

153 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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carinaman said:
In that thread, Pebbles167 mentioned the cost of tax on imports:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

What's the import tax like?

Will it be in a lower RFL bracket due to being a JDM import?
I don't think I mentioned it specifically, but it seemed that roughly car price plus shipping fees is subject to a 10% import tax. Adding this all together, including the tax is subject to 20% VAT, and then any extra fees on top from the importer for registration etc. Someone might be along to straighten this up.

So:

£5000 Legacy. +
£500 shipping/docking fee. +
£550 10% import tax. +
£1300 20% VAT. +
£500 Imorter fee. =

Your £5k car will cost £8k to get here, and that's being pretty conservative.

I was looking to get a Toyota Crown imported, but ultimately I worked out that I'd be spending nearly £4.5k over its price to get it on the road in the UK.

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

177 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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I didn't spot this on first posting.

Keep us updated, it looks a good one. smile

S100HP

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168 months

Sunday 26th September 2021
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It's on the boat!

PomBstard

6,791 posts

243 months

Sunday 26th September 2021
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Not sure how I missed this earlier, but I'm a fan of these having recently sold a 2013 GT wagon with the 6-sp manual. Readers Cars thread here...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

In short, just about the best do-it-all car I've owned and really didn't want to sell it, but just wasn't big enough for us any more. Awesome car, not perfect, just brilliant and so much more than numbers suggest.

Look forward to reading about this, and hope yours is as good as mine was thumbup

S100HP

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12,689 posts

168 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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PomBstard said:
Not sure how I missed this earlier, but I'm a fan of these having recently sold a 2013 GT wagon with the 6-sp manual. Readers Cars thread here...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

In short, just about the best do-it-all car I've owned and really didn't want to sell it, but just wasn't big enough for us any more. Awesome car, not perfect, just brilliant and so much more than numbers suggest.

Look forward to reading about this, and hope yours is as good as mine was thumbup
Cheers. I read and re-read your thread. Posted a link on there the other day actually as thought you might be interested.

I got some more pre boat photos sent over today, which I'm pleased about. Not overly convinced by the wheels that are on it, but they do have Bridgestone tyres which is nice.



It looks incredibly clean underneath



Unsure on wheels



But has a surprise in the boot. Potentially the original alloys?



Seems to have a few add ons which will need to be removed. Assuming toll stuff?







Looks totally unmolested and it's only done 107km



Really hope it's as good as it looks. Potentially only one key which is a shame, and didn't end up with leather, heated seats or eyesight as I originally wanted but decided to sacrifice them as this one looked so genuine. Can't wait.

Edited by S100HP on Tuesday 28th September 11:48

PomBstard

6,791 posts

243 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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That does indeed look very clean! The white paint is a weird metallic, almost pearlescent that never looks completely clean, but also seems to hide dirt like silver paint. So, pluses and minuses there biggrin

Not sure those wheels suit it, but the tyres are the right size for the originals so they haven’t been changed to anything odd.

I don’t know what year yours is, but the dash looks like it’s pre-2012 - doesn’t matter as it’s only some minor tinkering between the two.

The sound system and screen deserve to be binned if you’ve got the cash though (sell the wheels…??) There are much better systems out there!

Of the stuff you’ve missed out on, I didn’t enjoy the Eyesight system I tried, and the leather seats I did have needed frequent wiping to stop them squeaking. Cloth and no Eyesight is a good combo.

All in all, good stuff - look forward to seeing more when you get hold of it!

S100HP

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168 months

Saturday 16th October 2021
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Slowly slowly

S100HP

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168 months

Sunday 31st October 2021
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It's been quite good fun tracking the ships location, I've been watching it cross the Mediterranean sea and then up the coast of Portugal. It's now in the Bristol channel, docking in an hour. Mine is due off at Newcastle on the 5th, really wanted it into Southampton as I live there but wasn't possible to get a slot.

Really hope the DVLA pull their finger out so I can register it before Christmas!


Cambs_Stuart

2,882 posts

85 months

Sunday 31st October 2021
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I know the dvla have had issues with coronavirus, but 4-5 years ago when i had to register my legacy they were rrally helpful and quick to respond.
Hope you get it sorted ok. Looking forward to seeing some details of the 5th gen when it arrives.