Unexpected family wagon - 2006 4.4V8 Vogue (going in blind!)
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Krikkit said:
Not as common with the 4.4, particularly when the updated pipework is fitted to stop the oil buildup issue.
I'm fairly handy with the spanners, so will be doing a fair bit of the maintenance myself. Could you tell me about the updated pipework please? Does this involve drilling the sump or something?
300sl-24 said:
I'm fairly handy with the spanners, so will be doing a fair bit of the maintenance myself.
Take a look at LR TIME Youtube for a lot of small details about life with LR products : https://www.youtube.com/@Vera_and_ChristianNo L322 there but still...
...the smoke test has been completed and he says that it isn't the exhaust or manifold, but in fact is the top end -- the tappets/cams have been starved of oil (probably when my wheels were spinning on the off road course's slippery banks and I accidentally over-revved the car) and so it's now rattling under certain types of load. Remediation may be dear -- perhaps an engine out rebuild or an engine swap.
He'll have a look at options and get back to me...
EDITED: To add the mea culpa
He'll have a look at options and get back to me...
EDITED: To add the mea culpa
Edited by bolidemichael on Monday 4th March 09:36
bolidemichael said:
...the smoke test has been completed and he says that it isn't the exhaust or manifold, but in fact is the top end -- the tappets/cams have been starved of oil and so it's now rattling under certain types of load. Remediation may be dear -- perhaps an engine out rebuild or an engine swap.
He'll have a look at options and get back to me...
Yikes! That could be expensive. Good luck!He'll have a look at options and get back to me...
E90_M3Ross said:
How can you over-rev it? Surely it has an electronic rpm cut off/limit?
It's worth remembering that rev limiters are not foolproof. Say a manual car is flat out in fourth and the driver shifts into third instead of fifth, the driven wheels will over rev the engine even if the rev limiter has cut the spark and/or fuel. Very unlikely in this instance, but who knows what BM is capable of when he sees a big muddy hole!BM - can you try some thicker oil/STP type snake oil for a bodge?
RicksAlfas said:
E90_M3Ross said:
How can you over-rev it? Surely it has an electronic rpm cut off/limit?
It's worth remembering that rev limiters are not foolproof. Say a manual car is flat out in fourth and the driver shifts into third instead of fifth, the driven wheels will over rev the engine even if the rev limiter has cut the spark and/or fuel. Very unlikely in this instance, but who knows what BM is capable of when he sees a big muddy hole!BM - can you try some thicker oil/STP type snake oil for a bodge?
It is a very difficult decision BM - if I were you I'm not sure what I'd do - 1) run it until it dies and rebuild it when the time comes. 2) run it until it dies and scrap it. 3) run some thicker oil in there, hope it quietens it down and sell it ASAP.
Considering how financially invested you are in the car makes it awfully difficult. If you really love the car, then if you get the engine rebuilt then that's certainly something you won't need to worry about, at least!
Bloody hell BM you do have more than your share of crap luck. I would hazard a guess if you've been sat at any weird angles for a prolonged period during your off roading, it would be more likely being caused by oil starvation rather than an over rev, which would be very difficult to do in an auto during low speed manoeuvring.
Could be worth getting an oil analysis done to see if the engine has sustained any major damage.
millers oil sample
Could be worth getting an oil analysis done to see if the engine has sustained any major damage.
millers oil sample
Edited by sdh2903 on Monday 4th March 17:37
Edited by sdh2903 on Monday 4th March 17:38
sdh2903 said:
Bloody hell BM you do have more than your share of crap luck. I would hazard a guess if you've been sat at any weird angles for a prolonged period during your off roading, it would be more likely being caused by oil starvation rather than an over rev, which would be very difficult to do in an auto during low speed manoeuvring.
Could be worth getting an oil analysis done to see if the engine has sustained any major damage.
millers oil sample
You're correct, it was due to oil starvation. Could be worth getting an oil analysis done to see if the engine has sustained any major damage.
millers oil sample
Thanks for the tip apropos oil analysis.
As for the sympathy, I'm afraid it's misplaced it this was purely down to user error!
E90_M3Ross said:
JeremyH5 said:
Mmmm it surprises me it would happen so suddenly. I suspect something earlier in its life. How many miles had it done when you bought it?
IIRC it's on about 190k?
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