Unexpected family wagon - 2006 4.4V8 Vogue (going in blind!)
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bolidemichael said:
Thanks... now that we are building a 'fleet', it may afford me the confidence to tackle some items myself. Can you link me to the diagnostic tool that you recommend?
This is the one, it will also data log, plus you can code with it too. No, it is not cheap at £399, but can pay for itself pretty quickly and is great peace of mind when owning a LR out of warranty.
https://www.gap-diagnostic.com/shop/
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
That looks absolutely mega. These just have so much class. I think they really are a car for every occasion.
W00DY said:
What a steal. Jag engine, clear glass and it looks to have been well cared for. I'm hoping it treats you well so I have no excuse not to buy one.
Krikkit said:
Looks great so far, surely a bargain with the good tyres and a good-looking engine bay etc.
Thanks guys.alec.e said:
What a bargain!
There is nothing quite like a FFRR in my opinion, the thick pile carpets that you would find in a Bentley and a mix of utilitarianism.
The build quality is unsurprisingly not the best, you will be lucky if that is just surface rust in the arches. Get this treated before winter.
The coolant is meant to be pink- it is OAT as per Ford/Jaguar.
Enjoy!
It seems to have lasted well so far, perhaps with a careful owner... I'll get the rust checked out.There is nothing quite like a FFRR in my opinion, the thick pile carpets that you would find in a Bentley and a mix of utilitarianism.
The build quality is unsurprisingly not the best, you will be lucky if that is just surface rust in the arches. Get this treated before winter.
The coolant is meant to be pink- it is OAT as per Ford/Jaguar.
Enjoy!
Thanks for the heads up on that and also the confirmation on the coolant.
Harmitans said:
Nice car OP, I'm on my 2nd L322 now and they are a lovely thing for wafting about in. I would agree with the previous posters comments about diagnostic tools, they can save you a fortune in the long run but on the whole mine have been very reliable cars.
One thing to check though is the brake lines. The rears run down the nearside sill and are hidden by a protective cover so don't get inspected at service/MOT time. One of my lines failed due to corrosion at about 10 years old with a major loss of fluid. Worth inspecting yours to see if they are dangerous. The front brake lines are also covered by the wheel arch liners and are known to rust behind the liners too.
Thanks for the tip on the brake lines, I really don't need that happening to us!One thing to check though is the brake lines. The rears run down the nearside sill and are hidden by a protective cover so don't get inspected at service/MOT time. One of my lines failed due to corrosion at about 10 years old with a major loss of fluid. Worth inspecting yours to see if they are dangerous. The front brake lines are also covered by the wheel arch liners and are known to rust behind the liners too.
LazyMechanic said:
This is the one, it will also data log, plus you can code with it too.
No, it is not cheap at £399, but can pay for itself pretty quickly and is great peace of mind when owning a LR out of warranty.
https://www.gap-diagnostic.com/shop/
Thanks LMNo, it is not cheap at £399, but can pay for itself pretty quickly and is great peace of mind when owning a LR out of warranty.
https://www.gap-diagnostic.com/shop/
Okay, so my observations thus far. Suggestions and recommendations would be welcome for whether these are best sourced used/new & OEM/pattern.
Bad:
Damaged locator for slab grille.
Nearside Mirror, smashed by the seller (annoyingly):
Rear carpet velcro detached from hard plastic locator in under-carpet
Damaged lugs for Range Rover mat badge
Damaged/broken glove box lid
Intermittent reverse camera (with unsurprisingly low resolution):
Scuff to osf sill
Snapped belt for spare wheel well cover
Suspected missing locking wheel nut socket and possibly some other items missing too
Missing jack and pins to retain carpet
Perhaps some missing trim?
Ihope think that this is dirt, rather than rust
This hinge for the lower part of the boot lid seems to have seized. Harry Metcalfe does talk about these in his video, but I didn't spot it when inspecting
The top one is not pivoting around its axis either - is this by design?
Additionally, the sunglass holder in the front fails to locate consistently and the gas springs for the boot lid need renewing. I hope that this is the number for them, as it's pretty tough to make out.
Also, there's a dink in the bonnet that I suspect can be pulled out by a skilled remover
and a patch of repainted colour on the top of the spoiler (that I spotted from the balcony of out hosts' flat yesterday afternoon).
The trim on top of the lower bootlid is loose - how to further secure it?
The rear windscreen lower rubber is looking a little cracked and perished
The door handles have become a big thing for Mrs B - can these be saved?
The headlining has started to sag in this corner of the sunroof aperture
the key needs renewing - this is the only one, though a (non-coded) spare has been supplied. I have seen a chap on the FFRR forum that replaces the internals as a service, perhaps I'll give him a tap and see what he can do for me
oh and a missing Nokia, of course
Bad:
Damaged locator for slab grille.
Nearside Mirror, smashed by the seller (annoyingly):
Rear carpet velcro detached from hard plastic locator in under-carpet
Damaged lugs for Range Rover mat badge
Damaged/broken glove box lid
Intermittent reverse camera (with unsurprisingly low resolution):
Scuff to osf sill
Snapped belt for spare wheel well cover
Suspected missing locking wheel nut socket and possibly some other items missing too
Missing jack and pins to retain carpet
Perhaps some missing trim?
I
This hinge for the lower part of the boot lid seems to have seized. Harry Metcalfe does talk about these in his video, but I didn't spot it when inspecting
The top one is not pivoting around its axis either - is this by design?
Additionally, the sunglass holder in the front fails to locate consistently and the gas springs for the boot lid need renewing. I hope that this is the number for them, as it's pretty tough to make out.
Also, there's a dink in the bonnet that I suspect can be pulled out by a skilled remover
and a patch of repainted colour on the top of the spoiler (that I spotted from the balcony of out hosts' flat yesterday afternoon).
The trim on top of the lower bootlid is loose - how to further secure it?
The rear windscreen lower rubber is looking a little cracked and perished
The door handles have become a big thing for Mrs B - can these be saved?
The headlining has started to sag in this corner of the sunroof aperture
the key needs renewing - this is the only one, though a (non-coded) spare has been supplied. I have seen a chap on the FFRR forum that replaces the internals as a service, perhaps I'll give him a tap and see what he can do for me
oh and a missing Nokia, of course
Edited by bolidemichael on Monday 6th September 13:56
bolidemichael said:
Additionally, the sunglass holder in the front fails to locate consistently
Anyone would think it's a new one!
Seriously it looks great. I would run it for a few months and if you really like it you could spend a bit on sprucing it up. If you don't like it, you will easily shift it on. I used to use these guys for parts for my Classic:
https://www.lrdirect.com/parts-by-model/range-rove...
A set of these would be easier than restoring those.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATT-BLACK-DOOR-HANDLE-...
And a pure highway dab 600 system for about £70. Gives dab and Bluetooth for calls and streaming.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATT-BLACK-DOOR-HANDLE-...
And a pure highway dab 600 system for about £70. Gives dab and Bluetooth for calls and streaming.
PowerfulUK (awful name, but decent supplier of aftermarket LR bits) sell pre-painted stick on door handle covers:
https://www.powerfuluk.com/vehicles/range-rover-fu...
Locate your paint code, order, peel off the 3M sticky tape, and bob's your uncle. I have some Santorini black ones on my D4 and they're actually pretty good!
https://www.powerfuluk.com/vehicles/range-rover-fu...
Locate your paint code, order, peel off the 3M sticky tape, and bob's your uncle. I have some Santorini black ones on my D4 and they're actually pretty good!
RicksAlfas said:
bolidemichael said:
Additionally, the sunglass holder in the front fails to locate consistently
Anyone would think it's a new one!
Seriously it looks great. I would run it for a few months and if you really like it you could spend a bit on sprucing it up. If you don't like it, you will easily shift it on. I used to use these guys for parts for my Classic:
https://www.lrdirect.com/parts-by-model/range-rove...
w1bbles said:
I had a Disco 3 with the Jag V8. Lovely engine but don't skimp on oil changes as the chain tensioners can go rattly over time.
Got it, thanks. Out of interest, what are the recommended service oil change recommendations on these?rich12 said:
Open up both keys, swap the board and the transponder and you're sorted. No money, no reprogramming.
That's what I used to do with the keys for our Volvo V70, but these don't seem so straightforward. There is a guy on the FFRR forum that seems to have been performing the service of providing a replacement key and swapping everything for a few years and it costs £49. That leads me to consider whether I should opt for the 'replacement' service then pay to have this additional key coded to the car - I'd then have two, which is sensible. That is a very sweet ride with many benefits...
......"and he was based in Walthamstow, which is quite the trek from Wimbledon on a weekend."... one has to very careful when going into the farther reaches of the empire, however parts of the area have been renamed Walthamstow village, and are accessible to the standard jag driving executive pistonhead... Orford Road Tapas saloon being a fine example of the Great British Empire helps support many poor EU residents who are unable to start a small business in their backward home countries. For them to see a shining example of British automotiveness at its finest is an encouragement to them all.
......"and he was based in Walthamstow, which is quite the trek from Wimbledon on a weekend."... one has to very careful when going into the farther reaches of the empire, however parts of the area have been renamed Walthamstow village, and are accessible to the standard jag driving executive pistonhead... Orford Road Tapas saloon being a fine example of the Great British Empire helps support many poor EU residents who are unable to start a small business in their backward home countries. For them to see a shining example of British automotiveness at its finest is an encouragement to them all.
Mac. said:
PowerfulUK (awful name, but decent supplier of aftermarket LR bits) sell pre-painted stick on door handle covers:
https://www.powerfuluk.com/vehicles/range-rover-fu...
Locate your paint code, order, peel off the 3M sticky tape, and bob's your uncle. I have some Santorini black ones on my D4 and they're actually pretty good!
That's interesting, thanks. It seems as though ours is Buckingham Blue. They don't seem to offer the front grille, however.https://www.powerfuluk.com/vehicles/range-rover-fu...
Locate your paint code, order, peel off the 3M sticky tape, and bob's your uncle. I have some Santorini black ones on my D4 and they're actually pretty good!
Tupe said:
That is a very sweet ride with many benefits...
......"and he was based in Walthamstow, which is quite the trek from Wimbledon on a weekend."... one has to very careful when going into the farther reaches of the empire, however parts of the area have been renamed Walthamstow village, and are accessible to the standard jag driving executive pistonhead... Orford Road Tapas saloon being a fine example of the Great British Empire helps support many poor EU residents who are unable to start a small business in their backward home countries. For them to see a shining example of British automotiveness at its finest is an encouragement to them all.
Indeed, we stopped to visit a loo in a rather nice pub. However, the class of Walthamstow showed in the lack of fully branded petrol stations, so we could locate a loo in any of them! ......"and he was based in Walthamstow, which is quite the trek from Wimbledon on a weekend."... one has to very careful when going into the farther reaches of the empire, however parts of the area have been renamed Walthamstow village, and are accessible to the standard jag driving executive pistonhead... Orford Road Tapas saloon being a fine example of the Great British Empire helps support many poor EU residents who are unable to start a small business in their backward home countries. For them to see a shining example of British automotiveness at its finest is an encouragement to them all.
Court_S said:
That looks pretty smart, especially for the cash.
If you like it and it doesn’t s
t itself over the next few months, I’m sure a fair few of those issues cook be dealt with for not a lot of cash.
Yeah, let's see what happens with it. I noticed tonight that the tailgate spolier mounter brake light doesn't work.If you like it and it doesn’t s
t itself over the next few months, I’m sure a fair few of those issues cook be dealt with for not a lot of cash.RicksAlfas said:
I’m sure you will be able to pick up a grill easily as most seem to have been “upgraded” with Supercharged or Overfinch ones!
Hopefully, but what are the chances of finding one that isn't pitted to buggery?I'd be interested in know whether there's a parts catalogue accessible online, if anyone knows?
bolidemichael said:
Okay, so my observations thus far. Suggestions and recommendations would be welcome for whether these are best sourced used/new & OEM/pattern.
Bad:
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My advice (which I hope you will ignore because this thread won't be as much fun) is put a few miles on it make sure you and Mrs B "gel" with it before replacing the entire car part by part Bad:
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Then find a "nice & friendly" Land Rover parts guy (who recognises the benefit of a reasonable discount on parts to keep you going back) and get him to price all the bits
I've already got an excellent relationship with my local Merc and BMW dealership parts people - hopefully LR dealership parts people as as easy to make good friends
RicksAlfas said:
That's great, thanks.Additionally, by following a link to a Glaswegian operating under Pixels Fixed, complete with a nifty logo, I've location a Range Rover specialist breaker named Gemtlemen of Salvage
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