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Fair enough.
Mine is utterly abused and averages up towards 40mpg indicated... which I've never checked the accuracy of that, just put more in when it needs it whilst accepting you don't buy a couple of tons of AWD Volvo estate if MPG is high on your shopping list. But for what they are, I really don't think they do too badly at all. The later, twin turbo plus auto seems to kill economy however. My father in law has a FWD D4 and it's mid 40's and yet he doesn't exactly hyper mile with it.
Mine is utterly abused and averages up towards 40mpg indicated... which I've never checked the accuracy of that, just put more in when it needs it whilst accepting you don't buy a couple of tons of AWD Volvo estate if MPG is high on your shopping list. But for what they are, I really don't think they do too badly at all. The later, twin turbo plus auto seems to kill economy however. My father in law has a FWD D4 and it's mid 40's and yet he doesn't exactly hyper mile with it.
Doofus said:
Davie said:
Doofus said:
My car - a low MPG culprit - has a total, 100%, main dealer service history from new.
I'm not entirely sure that a fully stamped book is indicative of a healthy car. Plenty people with get a service to get the stamp but ignore any advice for remedial work plus many things simply won't come in to a service unless requested... the state of affairs with the thermostat being one of them. See also Haldex fluid, rear diff fluid, freeing off the ride height sensors, clearing the intake of carbon build up. A service is mainly replace X components, cursory look round, advise the customer, be branded "rip of merchants" wash it and send it on its way for another 20kOver the past three years, I spent, on average £860 per year with the dealer. In 2020 and 2021 cfdombined it only did 1,404 miles. In 2017 they had over £3k off me.
Looking through the paperwork, it had a thermostat in 2021, 2019 and 2016, which is when I bought it..
Nevertheless, if they did replace it, it won’t be with the cause of poor fuel economy. Probably the 4WD, auto box and heavy right foot.
robertfleckney said:
Hold on, is that a typo? I’d be surprised if they replaced it once, let alone three times. It isn’t a service part, as stated previously, it often gets overlooked completely!
Nevertheless, if they did replace it, it won’t be with the cause of poor fuel economy. Probably the 4WD, auto box and heavy right foot.
One replacement was because I have the radiator replaced, and one was because the thermostat was faulty.Nevertheless, if they did replace it, it won’t be with the cause of poor fuel economy. Probably the 4WD, auto box and heavy right foot.
Like I said, with cruise control set at 85mph, I average less than 30mpg. I've had more than one of these cars, so it's not the car.
To be clear, I don't care about the economy, I only mentioned it because everyone else was saying they get mid 40s.
Doofus said:
One replacement was because I have the radiator replaced, and one was because the thermostat was faulty.
Like I said, with cruise control set at 85mph, I average less than 30mpg. I've had more than one of these cars, so it's not the car.
To be clear, I don't care about the economy, I only mentioned it because everyone else was saying they get mid 40s.
We're derailing the nice mans thread here but we're also not comparing apples with apples. As I alluded to earlier, there's a rather extensive range of D5 options and then there's the gearboxes, the drive train and we're even involving different models. But the later, 200bhp+ cars / bi-turbo stuff does seem to suffer a it's fair share of MPG sapping issues be it dodgy thermostats, spurious boost leaks, DPF grumbles and that's before you start thinking about drive train drag, tyre pressures, filter intervals, sticky calipers and driving conditions. But I'd agree, 30ish seems the norm for the more powerful models under "normal" conditions, whatever they may be. The 185bhp cars do seem better. Like I said, with cruise control set at 85mph, I average less than 30mpg. I've had more than one of these cars, so it's not the car.
To be clear, I don't care about the economy, I only mentioned it because everyone else was saying they get mid 40s.
Nicks90 said:
How are you guys not even hitting 30mpg from an xc70? You must be driving it like you stole it or just bumbling about town all day long.
Xc90 here in 205bhp d5 flavour. Spends it's life doing tips runs and general odd-soddery and then once a week between Leeds and Manchester Airport for work. Averaging 34mpg over the last 10000 miles / 2 years and I'd say 1000 of those miles are towing a 6.5m twin axle tin villa.
If it's just the work commute, I get in excess of 40mpg as a mix of steady motorway driving on the m62 and the usual stop start ballcocks through Stockport to the m56/Airport. Have to admit, I generally stick to 75max on the motorway and 55 when towing.
impressive MPG from the XC90, manage to get late 30s out of our 185bhp Manual, towing its late teens, that said i don't hang around with the van on the back, and having 28ft van on the back and combined train weight of near as damn it 4 tonne doesn't lend itself to decent economy Xc90 here in 205bhp d5 flavour. Spends it's life doing tips runs and general odd-soddery and then once a week between Leeds and Manchester Airport for work. Averaging 34mpg over the last 10000 miles / 2 years and I'd say 1000 of those miles are towing a 6.5m twin axle tin villa.
If it's just the work commute, I get in excess of 40mpg as a mix of steady motorway driving on the m62 and the usual stop start ballcocks through Stockport to the m56/Airport. Have to admit, I generally stick to 75max on the motorway and 55 when towing.
Going well. Still need to sort the towbar. I need to work out if I have self-leveling suspension or not.
The passenger mirror made an awful noise and no longer folds. Likely to be a gear, but an expensive fix as it's got the camera in it. Going to try and buy a used 'simple' one and transplant the gear. Eventually. Meanwhile who needs folding mirrors.
I love the way this car looks at home in a field or an inner-city...
The passenger mirror made an awful noise and no longer folds. Likely to be a gear, but an expensive fix as it's got the camera in it. Going to try and buy a used 'simple' one and transplant the gear. Eventually. Meanwhile who needs folding mirrors.
I love the way this car looks at home in a field or an inner-city...
surveyor said:
The passenger mirror made an awful noise and no longer folds. Likely to be a gear, but an expensive fix as it's got the camera in it. Going to try and buy a used 'simple' one and transplant the gear. Eventually. Meanwhile who needs folding mirrors.
Folding mirror could be an easy fix https://youtu.be/WHVG22Ce_gEbracken78 said:
I am fairly sure your XC70, like mine, does not have self leveling suspension as your missing the buttons on the low part of the dash.
Agreed, I think by this era of Volvo self-levelling meant the expensive to repair '4C' suspension, which adds buttons in front of the gear selector.I'd like to add a towbar to mine, I was looking at this one from Brink (who I beleive make the OE bars for Volvo):
https://www.pfjones.co.uk/volvo-xc70-estate-08-200...
It's just under £300 with a vehicle specific wiring module. There's a detachable model for £100 more. I'm not quite sure if the car has to be coded to accept the Brink module.
In theory installation requires the exhaust to be chopped and sleeved back together to gain access to the fixing points underneath, but it looks like it can be done without cutting the exhaust if the installer has nimble fingers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrWN_zPrxbQ
Accelebrate said:
Agreed, I think by this era of Volvo self-levelling meant the expensive to repair '4C' suspension, which adds buttons in front of the gear selector.
I'd like to add a towbar to mine, I was looking at this one from Brink (who I beleive make the OE bars for Volvo):
https://www.pfjones.co.uk/volvo-xc70-estate-08-200...
It's just under £300 with a vehicle specific wiring module. There's a detachable model for £100 more. I'm not quite sure if the car has to be coded to accept the Brink module.
In theory installation requires the exhaust to be chopped and sleeved back together to gain access to the fixing points underneath, but it looks like it can be done without cutting the exhaust if the installer has nimble fingers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrWN_zPrxbQ
Cheers. I need to see if there is any play in the mirror, but by the noise I expect broken gears!I'd like to add a towbar to mine, I was looking at this one from Brink (who I beleive make the OE bars for Volvo):
https://www.pfjones.co.uk/volvo-xc70-estate-08-200...
It's just under £300 with a vehicle specific wiring module. There's a detachable model for £100 more. I'm not quite sure if the car has to be coded to accept the Brink module.
In theory installation requires the exhaust to be chopped and sleeved back together to gain access to the fixing points underneath, but it looks like it can be done without cutting the exhaust if the installer has nimble fingers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrWN_zPrxbQ
ETA may be a repair gear available...
Edited by surveyor on Friday 4th March 17:33
Accelebrate said:
bracken78 said:
I am fairly sure your XC70, like mine, does not have self leveling suspension as your missing the buttons on the low part of the dash.
Agreed, I think by this era of Volvo self-levelling meant the expensive to repair '4C' suspension, which adds buttons in front of the gear selector.I'd like to add a towbar to mine, I was looking at this one from Brink (who I beleive make the OE bars for Volvo):
https://www.pfjones.co.uk/volvo-xc70-estate-08-200...
It's just under £300 with a vehicle specific wiring module. There's a detachable model for £100 more. I'm not quite sure if the car has to be coded to accept the Brink module.
In theory installation requires the exhaust to be chopped and sleeved back together to gain access to the fixing points underneath, but it looks like it can be done without cutting the exhaust if the installer has nimble fingers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrWN_zPrxbQ
Self leveling is an entirely different thing. This was done by fitting nivomat shocks on the rear, which then raised the rear when additional weight was loaded into the boot. I might be wrong, but nivomats were standard fit on the xc70. The reason cars don't have them later is due to the cost to replace when they give up.
I stand corrected, I was under the impression that Nivomats weren’t an option on the P3, but it looks like they were.
I’m not entirely sure they were standard fit, according to the internet…
“Nivomats are only standard on p3 xc70 SE LUX 185bhp versions ( 2007,2008,2009 ish). Option on other versions for these years.
For later xc70s, all models, they are options only.”
I’m not entirely sure they were standard fit, according to the internet…
“Nivomats are only standard on p3 xc70 SE LUX 185bhp versions ( 2007,2008,2009 ish). Option on other versions for these years.
For later xc70s, all models, they are options only.”
Edited by Accelebrate on Friday 4th March 20:02
Accelebrate said:
I stand corrected, I was under the impression that Nivomats weren’t an option on the P3, but it looks like they were.
I’m not entirely sure they were standard fit, according to the internet…
“Nivomats are only standard on p3 xc70 SE LUX 185bhp versions ( 2007,2008,2009 ish). Option on other versions for these years.
For later xc70s, all models, they are options only.”
Dealer told me yesterday that I don't have self-leveling. I’m not entirely sure they were standard fit, according to the internet…
“Nivomats are only standard on p3 xc70 SE LUX 185bhp versions ( 2007,2008,2009 ish). Option on other versions for these years.
For later xc70s, all models, they are options only.”
Edited by Accelebrate on Friday 4th March 20:02
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