Inspired or idiotic? "Cheap" V8 Vantage

Inspired or idiotic? "Cheap" V8 Vantage

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Longy00000

1,353 posts

41 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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Nigel_O said:
From what I've read, the V12 is the engine that the Vantage always deserved. However, for anyone that's been with me since the start of this thread, you'll remember I was getting into AM ownership "on the cheap" by buying an entry-level car. I'm not loaded and I simply did not want to borrow to fund the car. I'm now in my last decade of my working life and I'm trying desperately to balance an incurable desire to own a nice car with the inescapable fact that I don't really have enough money in my pension.

So - the cheapest V12 on Autotrader is £60k which is simply more than I'm willing to pay. I know if I drove one, I'd fall for it and my pension plans would be in tatters, so I need to stay well clear and learn to live with 'only' eight cylinders.

Perhaps if the State Pension triple-lock is fully re-instated for another few years, I could entertain it, but as things stand, short of a lottery win, it ain't happening....
I hear you but itches tend to get more itchy the longer you leave them laugh

Longy00000

1,353 posts

41 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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Oh by the way my pension plans are now completely and utterlycensored
Not a vantage V12 but a Vanquish S, today is for living and tomorrow is well...tomorrow's problem smile

Nigel_O

Original Poster:

2,898 posts

220 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Brakes have arrived, but the disc retaining screws are stuck solid, so I've sent the car to my local mechanic to sort it.

Should fill the wheel nicely at 15" - same size as the wheels on my Westfield...




Nigel_O

Original Poster:

2,898 posts

220 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Having warped many, many Fiat Coupe front brake discs over my 20 year with them, I was convinced that was what had happened to my V8V discs. I was quite wrong....





No wonder they felt a bit 'wooden' when braking from high speed...

Still, it's one of only a couple of things that have cropped up that I didn't know about when I bought the car, so I'm not too grumpy about it.

carinaman

21,325 posts

173 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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I think you're right not to be grumpy about the discs. They're a consumable and being able to stop is important.

ChocolateFrog

25,464 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Actual pitted discs, I thought that was just in the imagination of the MOT man who wanted a bit of extra work laugh

Nigel_O

Original Poster:

2,898 posts

220 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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I’ve never had pitted discs before - I guess it happens if the pads are stuck against the disc for a long period - I assume Astons can sometimes be parked up for a whole winter

a11y_m

1,861 posts

223 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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I've only just found this thread - lovely car in a lovely combo, that interior especially for me cool

Huge respect going into the bottom end of these. I feel I've taken a similar approach when I needed to scratch my V8 itch, but a (very) different car at a much lower price point. I'm a few years in and enjoying it immensely, even if sub-20mpg is getting on my tits just now @ nearly £2/ltr.

Thread bookmarked smile

Court_S

12,995 posts

178 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Those discs are nailed, but as you say these kinds of cars probably spend a lot of time not going anywhere which won't do them any favours.

I admire you're restraint re the V12 and in the land of reality, what you already have is lovely.

Nigel_O

Original Poster:

2,898 posts

220 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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Oh damn - that's irritating....

When I washed the car last weekend, I noticed some liquid staining on one of the (newly-refurbished) rear wheels. I thought it was some of the white grease that had been applied to the hubs to prevent corrosion.



It wouldn't clean off with any of the usual wheel cleaning products, so I took the wheel off to have a better go at cleaning it. Even a fairly coarse polishing mop and some cutting compound wouldn't shift it, but then I noticed where the fluid was coming from....



Looks like it has taken some paint off the caliper too - one of the downsides of using DOT4 fluid, I suppose.

Longy00000

1,353 posts

41 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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Well that's a real shame, something so crappy with newly refurbished wheels too. I'm sure you have double checked the wheel arch body work too, it can be nasty stuff that brake fluid

Nigel_O

Original Poster:

2,898 posts

220 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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Another relief yesterday - passed its MOT at just short of 64,000 miles.

Annoyingly, the EML light came on as I was driving to the MOT station - the usual “emissions service required” message. I’ve had it half a dozen times in my 10 months ownership and it always goes away after 5 (or is it 10?) restarts.

I also got a sympathetic MOT tester - apparently, both side repeaters weren’t working, but he gave them a little tap and they started working again - it would have been annoying to get a fail for those, although it would have given me an excuse to replace them with something a bit better looking - the originals are going yellow and look a bit rubbish.

In other news, it’s still going very well and the ceramic coating my son and I did in May is looking great. Cleaning it is soooo easy now. Still haven’t got the wheel refurbed, but the garage that did the brake bleeding immediately offered to pay for the refurb, so I’m happy enough - I’ve always said that the sign of a good garage is not whether they make mistakes, but how they behave when they do.

I’ve still been looking at 4.7s, but I haven’t seen anything with an interior like mine. I didn’t realise when I bought the car just how many Vantages have black interiors and how unusual a full sandstone interior is. I’ve seen lots of 4.7s within my budget that I’d like but all have dark interiors. Perhaps a twin-plate clutch and a modest remap will be enough to allow me to keep the 4.3. Or maybe I’ll drive a 4.7 and realise that tolerating a dark interior is a worthwhile swap for the extra grunt.

Finally, now I’ve sold the Westfield, I can (just) get the Aston in the garage with about 2” to spare at each end. I might think about getting a shed for winter driving duties. I quite like a bit of winter landscape photography and I have an irrational itch for a Panda 4x4 that I might have to scratch. I actually looked at Audi A6 Allroads for a while, but realised they were so good that the Aston would hardly get driven. At least the Panda would be slow and rattly, which would mean driving the Aston would be something to look forward to. Bit of a first-world problem, but I imagine one that many Aston owners face. What do other owners use as their daily drivers?


tgr

1,134 posts

172 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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I like your thinking Nigel

coldel

7,899 posts

147 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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Nigel_O said:
In other news, it’s still going very well and the ceramic coating my son and I did in May is looking great. Cleaning it is soooo easy now. Still haven’t got the wheel refurbed, but the garage that did the brake bleeding immediately offered to pay for the refurb, so I’m happy enough - I’ve always said that the sign of a good garage is not whether they make mistakes, but how they behave when they do.
Shame there is not more of shout out to garages like this, usually on here all we see are posts about garages shirking their responsibilities rather than thinking of keeping the customer happy. Glad to hear they got straight back on it and resolved it.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

190 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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Nigel_O said:
Bit of a first-world problem, but I imagine one that many Aston owners face. What do other owners use as their daily drivers?
Sadly, I'm not an Aston owner but my neighbour is! He has a Transit Connect for his work and a Touraeg for "normal" (needs a big car to tow his track cars). The Aston gets used for "special" stuff (he did do the NC500 in it last year).

skeeterm5

3,357 posts

189 months

Sunday 4th September 2022
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In general terms has it still worked out cheaper to buy a cheap one and work on it? Or would it have worked out cheaper to buy a more expensive, better sorted, one in the first place?

milu

2,354 posts

267 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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I have a Phaeton as my regular car. Have a van for work too.
You’re right about having something too nice besides the Aston.
Although my Phaeton is a barge it’s just so easy to use for running about, shops etc and of course quiet and comfortable
So it’s easy to leave the Aston in the garage.
On that point…. Parking in front of my garage is also a consideration.Sometimes I can’t be bothered to move VW to get out AM
I’ve been considering a merger, maybe an RS6 or similar but not sure if selling the AM would be a mistake. After all the cost to keep is very low so far (3.5 years) and the VW is still a low mileage, useable car.
It does bug a bit paying 2 x £600 road tax though!
Sorry just thinking out loud and rambling!

Brave Fart

5,745 posts

112 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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milu said:
I have a Phaeton as my regular car. Have a van for work too.
You’re right about having something too nice besides the Aston.
Although my Phaeton is a barge it’s just so easy to use for running about, shops etc and of course quiet and comfortable
So it’s easy to leave the Aston in the garage.
On that point…. Parking in front of my garage is also a consideration.Sometimes I can’t be bothered to move VW to get out AM
I’ve been considering a merger, maybe an RS6 or similar but not sure if selling the AM would be a mistake. After all the cost to keep is very low so far (3.5 years) and the VW is still a low mileage, useable car.
It does bug a bit paying 2 x £600 road tax though!
Sorry just thinking out loud and rambling!
Your situation is similar to mine. I have a mint 2015 4.7 Vantage V8 in the garage, but my BMW 535d is parked on the drive in front of said garage. Sometimes I think "Ooh, it's a nice day, I could go for a drive in the Aston", but I'd have to move the BMW, then squeeze into the Aston (it fits in my garage, but only just). Usually I just take the BMW because I'm lazy. The 535d is a very enjoyable car to drive, despite being a filthy diesel.

My wife says "Why keep a car that you hardly ever drive?" and she has a point. I have toyed with the idea of a single 'do it all' car, but that would involve selling my two existing cars, and like I said, I'm lazy!

sheepdip

526 posts

176 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Nigel_O said:
Another relief yesterday - passed its MOT at just short of 64,000 miles.

Annoyingly, the EML light came on as I was driving to the MOT station - the usual “emissions service required” message. I’ve had it half a dozen times in my 10 months ownership and it always goes away after 5 (or is it 10?) restarts.

I also got a sympathetic MOT tester - apparently, both side repeaters weren’t working, but he gave them a little tap and they started working again - it would have been annoying to get a fail for those, although it would have given me an excuse to replace them with something a bit better looking - the originals are going yellow and look a bit rubbish.

In other news, it’s still going very well and the ceramic coating my son and I did in May is looking great. Cleaning it is soooo easy now. Still haven’t got the wheel refurbed, but the garage that did the brake bleeding immediately offered to pay for the refurb, so I’m happy enough - I’ve always said that the sign of a good garage is not whether they make mistakes, but how they behave when they do.

I’ve still been looking at 4.7s, but I haven’t seen anything with an interior like mine. I didn’t realise when I bought the car just how many Vantages have black interiors and how unusual a full sandstone interior is. I’ve seen lots of 4.7s within my budget that I’d like but all have dark interiors. Perhaps a twin-plate clutch and a modest remap will be enough to allow me to keep the 4.3. Or maybe I’ll drive a 4.7 and realise that tolerating a dark interior is a worthwhile swap for the extra grunt.

Finally, now I’ve sold the Westfield, I can (just) get the Aston in the garage with about 2” to spare at each end. I might think about getting a shed for winter driving duties. I quite like a bit of winter landscape photography and I have an irrational itch for a Panda 4x4 that I might have to scratch. I actually looked at Audi A6 Allroads for a while, but realised they were so good that the Aston would hardly get driven. At least the Panda would be slow and rattly, which would mean driving the Aston would be something to look forward to. Bit of a first-world problem, but I imagine one that many Aston owners face. What do other owners use as their daily drivers?
As a fellow Vantage owner I hate the indicator repeaters just stuck on the wings. They just look like an after thought. They should have had them hidden in either the gills or on the wing mirrors.

Collectingbrass

2,218 posts

196 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Nigel_O said:
<snip> Bit of a first-world problem, but I imagine one that many Aston owners face. What do other owners use as their daily drivers? </snip>
I don't have an Aston, but I do have this "problem". I currently have a newer Alpina D4 (based on the 4 series platform) and a older Z4 ragtop. Previously I have had a 6 series V8 & a 3 series ragtop. The difference in the vehicle type & use case means that for the right journey I am looking forward to the right car. I don't though recommend 200 miles on the M1 on a wet winters night in a leaky E36, or single lane width country roads in a 6 series barge...